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Subject: Halo 3 Factual Speculation- Very good information for all Halo fans.
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Halo 3 will explain the truth about the forerunners and the real reason why the prophets seeked out the Halo's(as we all know, Truth knows the real truth behind all this, hence the symbolical meaning behind his name, Mercy knew aswell, but was killed by the flood and left to die)

It will show us how humanity are linked and possibly related to the forerunners, as only humans can activate the Halo instalations.

The Halo's will have to fire to eliminate the growing flood army, as it is the only way to stop them at this point. This brings in the Ark, and whether it really does what it's biblical reference suggests, protect those few from the Flood and god's fury(the Halos).

Also the Arbiter will die, as foreshadowed in Halo 2 by Mercy, in that all arbiters have died in combat, and he will just as they have. It is most likely he will kill Truth, for revenge on how his people, the Elites, where manipulated to do the prophets biding for centuries.

It will reveal what has happened Cortana, and she will play a large role in the story as stated by Bungie.

As for playable charatcers expect the return of the Arbiter to finish what he has started, and of course the masterchief. The main storyline will once again focus attention on these 2 characters, as well as on Cortana.

The flood will reach Earth, along with the arbiter and cortana, who will meet again with the masterchief in one way or another. The gravemind and Truth will play a large role in explaining the past of the forerunners and the truth behind there seperate intentions.

Anything else is up to Bungie. Please note that these ideas are purely based on the current storyline and what events would logically proceed them. None may turn out to be true.


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Unless we get to meet another Elite really indepth in Halo 3, I wouldn't count on seeing the Arbiter die.
With the Prophets gone (c'mon, you know it's coming), somebody has to lead the Covenant (or at least the Elites) in their treaty with the UNSC (again, you know it's coming).

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Dude, no duh, we all could see this and its obvious. The flood thing has been said about what seems like a million times, and obviously the Arbiter is alive, but just because hes still alive doesnt mean he'll be a playable character because the Arbiter ruined Halo 2 for many, he could still be in the game but in like cutscenes and what not.

  • 05.16.2006 1:43 PM PDT
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"The tasks you must undertake as the Arbiter are perilous-suicidal. You
will die as each Arbiter has before you."

This is a good example of foreshadowing and how it defines the fate of the Arbiter.

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Yeah, I agree that the Flood finding Earth is gonna happen. I've been wondering how long it'd take them to reach Earth since Halo:CE. Yes, the Arbiter has to stay alive! He is that last hope for his peopl!! *drama off* The only reason Mercy told him he was gonna die was because the prophets had intended for him to die in fighting for them. He might live, he might not. Also, you said "will" alot in that post. You are aware Bungie could totally pull something out of there you-know-whats and have a huge event no one was expecting. Like, oh, I dunno....the humans being the Forerunner? *sarcasm*

To clarify, by "die fighting for them" I meant that they more or less thought he'd be killed on the Heretic Station. They didn't care as long as he died.

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  • 05.16.2006 1:48 PM PDT
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Posted by: SouthMcWow
Dude, no duh, we all could see this and its obvious. The flood thing has been said about what seems like a million times, and obviously the Arbiter is alive, but just because hes still alive doesnt mean he'll be a playable character because the Arbiter ruined Halo 2 for many, he could still be in the game but in like cutscenes and what not.


Its obvious because it is based on what will logically happen, therefor to many people it may seam obvious. This thread was simply made to inform people, not to insult there intelligence in any way. As for the Arbiter issue, Halo 2 pretty much ruined Halo 2 for me. If it was done properly, he would have been an excellent character.

  • 05.16.2006 1:49 PM PDT
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Yeah, I agree that the Flood finding Earth is gonna happen. I've been wondering how long it'd take them to reach Earth since Halo:CE. Yes, the Arbiter has to stay alive! He is that last hope for his peopl!! *drama off* The only reason Mercy told him he was gonna die was because the prophets had intended for him to die in fighting for them. He might live, he might not. Also, you said "will" alot in that post. You are aware Bungie could totally pull something out of there you-know-whats and have a huge event no one was expecting. Like, oh, I dunno....the humans being the Forerunner? *sarcasm*

To clarify, by "die fighting for them" I meant that they more or less thought he'd be killed on the Heretic Station. They didn't care as long as he died.


As stated in the end of my post I mentioned that everything I had just said was most likely to be changed by Bungie, and that these are simply theories of how what may or will happen in Halo 3.

I apoligize if I came off all that sounding like a know it all, as that was not my intentions.

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I AGREE TO EVERYTHING JUST ABOUT

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Posted by: TheDeadGuy
Yeah, I agree that the Flood finding Earth is gonna happen. I've been wondering how long it'd take them to reach Earth since Halo:CE. Yes, the Arbiter has to stay alive! He is that last hope for his peopl!! *drama off* The only reason Mercy told him he was gonna die was because the prophets had intended for him to die in fighting for them. He might live, he might not. Also, you said "will" alot in that post. You are aware Bungie could totally pull something out of there you-know-whats and have a huge event no one was expecting. Like, oh, I dunno....the humans being the Forerunner? *sarcasm*

To clarify, by "die fighting for them" I meant that they more or less thought he'd be killed on the Heretic Station. They didn't care as long as he died.

There is the whole telling Tartarus to kill him thing, too.

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*yawn*

That was like reading something from Nostradamus.

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Going a small step further in that chain might suggest that the artifact on earth is in fact the only safe place from the detonation of the halos, which is why a couple "forerunners/humans" survived, and that is the true reason why truth is attacking earth, and didn't want to ally with the humans and invite them into the covenant.
1. The structure in the "cradle of civilization" is the only safe place from the flood and he wants to control it, and rebuild the universe in his image.

2. War against humanity was a necessity because if they invited forerunners into the covenant, there was a possibility their "holy origins" would be discovered, and that would compromise the prophets' total control over the cov.

It would further go to suggest that gravemind wants control over the facility too, since he would know of its existence, "he controls penitant tangent", and would know where earth is, "common knowledge by now even if he didn't 'maybe' control cortana"

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Wii why don't you go hang out at the local -blam!- bar...and take your Nintendo buddy with you, even though Nintendo doesn't suck this is a site of a company that works for Microsoft......but on the other hand yeah dude i like the post. I felt myself sayin, yeah totally true, when i read it.

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Posted by: Wii
*yawn*

That was like reading something from Nostradamus.


Thank you for your concerned and constructive critism.

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Cortana may also be going rampant, as she is long overdue, especially after signifigantly shortening her 7 year lifespan by taking in the data from the Halos computer from instalation 04 control center(see Halo books). This may lead to Gravemind taking advantage of her and manipulating her to his advantage. Again pure speculation, take it with a grain of sand.

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Yeah, I agree that the Flood finding Earth is gonna happen. I've been wondering how long it'd take them to reach Earth since Halo:CE. Yes, the Arbiter has to stay alive! He is that last hope for his peopl!! *drama off* The only reason Mercy told him he was gonna die was because the prophets had intended for him to die in fighting for them. He might live, he might not. Also, you said "will" alot in that post. You are aware Bungie could totally pull something out of there you-know-whats and have a huge event no one was expecting. Like, oh, I dunno....the humans being the Forerunner? *sarcasm*

To clarify, by "die fighting for them" I meant that they more or less thought he'd be killed on the Heretic Station. They didn't care as long as he died.

There is the whole telling Tartarus to kill him thing, too.


Yeah, I was thinking that too but then the other Covenant would see it and then all Hell breaks loose...

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Posted by: DrkPaladin
Going a small step further in that chain might suggest that the artifact on earth is in fact the only safe place from the detonation of the halos, which is why a couple "forerunners/humans" survived, and that is the true reason why truth is attacking earth, and didn't want to ally with the humans and invite them into the covenant.
1. The structure in the "cradle of civilization" is the only safe place from the flood and he wants to control it, and rebuild the universe in his image.

2. War against humanity was a necessity because if they invited forerunners into the covenant, there was a possibility their "holy origins" would be discovered, and that would compromise the prophets' total control over the cov.

It would further go to suggest that gravemind wants control over the facility too, since he would know of its existence, "he controls penitant tangent", and would know where earth is, "common knowledge by now even if he didn't 'maybe' control cortana"


I don't think that Truth knew about Earth until recently or else he would have just attacked there first, right? I dunno. At this point, it seems like Truth is hiding more than all the other charcters combined. I also wonder what Truth is up to. Why would he want to activate the Halos? What kind of significance does it hold for him?

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Yeah, I agree that the Flood finding Earth is gonna happen. I've been wondering how long it'd take them to reach Earth since Halo:CE. Yes, the Arbiter has to stay alive! He is that last hope for his peopl!! *drama off* The only reason Mercy told him he was gonna die was because the prophets had intended for him to die in fighting for them. He might live, he might not. Also, you said "will" alot in that post. You are aware Bungie could totally pull something out of there you-know-whats and have a huge event no one was expecting. Like, oh, I dunno....the humans being the Forerunner? *sarcasm*

To clarify, by "die fighting for them" I meant that they more or less thought he'd be killed on the Heretic Station. They didn't care as long as he died.

There is the whole telling Tartarus to kill him thing, too.


Yeah, I was thinking that too but then the other Covenant would see it and then all Hell breaks loose...


The point about the Arbiter dying is that it is his fate as being an Arbiter. It is not that they expected him to die that mission(although I assume they would) it has a deeper meaning than that. To stay true to his fate as an Arbiter he must die as every Arbiter before him. It has a deeper meaning than just the council wanting him dead. You learn this stuff in english later. Plus knowing how Bungie realises that most fans do not enjoy his storyline(even it is the deeper and more meaningful in Halo 2) they may eliminate him to satisfy the fans. Think of he valiantly sacrificing himself to save everything from destruction, you can very easily picture it as it fits his personality as a noble warrior.

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Posted by: Zagashi
Cortana may also be going rampant, as she is long overdue, especially after signifigantly shortening her 7 year lifespan by taking in the data from the Halos computer from instalation 04 control center(see Halo books). This may lead to Gravemind taking advantage of her and manipulating her to his advantage. Again pure speculation, take it with a grain of sand.




dont you mean grain of salt



anyway cortana is far over due for rampancy. She's been around before chief but as we know her pep and advanced mind might be able to hold up against gravemind

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If I recall correctly, the AI doesn't change its behavior at that 7 year time, it stops performing actions do to infinite loops.

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Posted by: KaZe R63
If I recall correctly, the AI doesn't change its behavior at that 7 year time, it stops performing actions do to infinite loops.


No, the smart AI's after a certain time do just as you say, but they do also experience behavioral changes. That's why they're "smart" AI. They learn from mistakes and from experiences and change from that. In the books Cortana also mentions things called "emotion subroutines" which probably contribute to this.

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I don't think that Truth knew about Earth until recently or else he would have just attacked there first, right? I dunno. At this point, it seems like Truth is hiding more than all the other charcters combined. I also wonder what Truth is up to. Why would he want to activate the Halos? What kind of significance does it hold for him?


The location of Earth was known by the covenants after the first Halo, as the data to it's coordinates was found apon a forerunner artifact, much like the location to the first Halo was found on a forerunner artifact by John is the books. A large fleet was assembled to travel to the Sol system before it was destroyed by the Masterchief.

This large fleet was possibly under the command of the prophet of Regret, who instead of waiting for reinforcements to travel to Earth, as he was told by Truth and Mercy, he went alone with the surving ships, which is very similar in the game to the number of ships that survived the blast in the books. He then discovered that Earth was the Human homeworld, and that he could not fight them alone. Hence this is why he is called Regret, as he Regrets that discison he made. On Earth, his forces discovered the location of Delta Halo. He then proceeded there to attempt to activate the Halo's himself for wahtever reason. What is important about this is Regret did not know the true meaning behind the Halos, as Truth and Mercy potentially do, as he is a young and reletivly new heirach of the covenant, and therefore beleived it would make him a god. Truth and Mercy then ordered Regret to be destroyed, as the Temple was vaporized. The ships where inbound before Masterchief killed Regret suggesting this.

Also note that Truth and Mercy are concerned about Regret(secret message in conversation from the universe).

Again pure speculations, and none may be true.

  • 05.16.2006 2:29 PM PDT
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Please try to keep this thread alive as it has quite a good deal of factual speculations.

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Posted by: Zagashi
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*yawn*

That was like reading something from Nostradamus.


Thank you for your concerned and constructive critism.


Oh you're welcome.

  • 05.16.2006 2:46 PM PDT
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Posted by: Zagashi
Halo 3 will explain the truth about the forerunners and the real reason why the prophets seeked out the Halo's(as we all know, Truth knows the real truth behind all this, hence the symbolical meaning behind his name, Mercy knew aswell, but was killed by the flood and left to die)




For those who have the DVD, you should know this already. They think it will turn them into Gods, hence the reason Regret went to Earth to activate the Halos and become a God on his own so he wouldnt have to share power with the other Prophets.

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