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Subject: If Invasion was to recieve an update...

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Posted by: Wumpa Warrior
Spawn, I feel like this was copied and pasted from a thread of mine..?

;)

It didn't get much recognition. After I read your post, no one else responded. Either way, I still feel the same way and it fits with this thread.

  • 01.29.2012 6:29 PM PDT

Herp derp.

Glad you posted as well. Gives a really good perspective on the playlist.

  • 01.29.2012 6:30 PM PDT

And so God called Moses to come forth but he came fifth and was therefore disqualified.


Posted by: Gyarados121996

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A few days ago he took like 10 minutes and checked it out. It wasn't completely finished.

Not trying to be rude at all, I'm trying to give you advice (which Goat gave to me):
Only have expert forgers and Invasion players playtest, otherwise you have a bunch of derps who really don't know how to judge the map. I'd also be sure that all vehicles and weapons are balanced. Which would mean a perfect, no lag, 6v6 playtest. :)

And Spawn, I read through your post. Interesting points you made there, and I found myself agreeing with all of them.

I actually playtested with 6 other pro forgers, but maybe I should add goat in the mix. I have made sure that the weapons are in balance by having no power weapons except the sniper and tickle beam focus rifle). Also, You can't drive any of the vehicles. Unfortunately, there is a bit of lag >:(

That's probably due to the fact the I have zero budget left. Other than that, it's good, as I heard from the playtesters (except that one guy didn't like the spawns because he was frequently killed right after spawning).

P.S., when are you playtesting your sub map?

:)

[Edited on 01.29.2012 6:30 PM PST]

  • 01.29.2012 6:30 PM PDT


Posted by: spawn031
Posted by: Wumpa Warrior
Spawn, I feel like this was copied and pasted from a thread of mine..?

;)

It didn't get much recognition. After I read your post, no one else responded. Either way, I still feel the same way and it fits with this thread.

Sorry if I never responded to your post :/ I probably just derped and forgot. And it definitely fits. The biggest thing for invasion right now is the need for more maps.

  • 01.29.2012 6:32 PM PDT

I intend to live forever, or die trying,

so far, so good.

More Maps, and better Spawn System (think BF3).

We will need to wait to Halo 4, as I don't see the point up fixing REACH anymore. AS Halo 4 comes out in 8-11 Months

  • 01.29.2012 6:32 PM PDT

Herp derp.

I'm playtesting right now, atm. If I can get a lobby set up.

Also, I don't think maps make MM if they have Framerate lag, which I assume is what you meant. I'm not entirely sure, I'd ask Goat.

  • 01.29.2012 6:33 PM PDT
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TU settings, new maps, NOT community maps. Breakpoint was a start, but more variety is needed.

And for christ's sake, even though it's probably not possible, I'll moan and complain about it anyway, Covenant weapons and vehicles, NEED TO BE TWEAKED. Part of the reason I dislike Invasion in it's current state is because most Covenant stuff is useless.

  • 01.29.2012 6:33 PM PDT
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I'm new to competitive Halo and Halo itself (Reach being my first video game ever actually). Message me if you want to play;

Reach: MLG, Arena, Doubles, BTB and customs.
Halo 3: Ranked MM and customs.

Also I have every Halo title and all of its DLC on the Xbox 360.
-Umpa

Increase all of the power weapon and vehicles spawn times in the Invasion gametype (esp boneyard) seriously.

  • 01.29.2012 6:35 PM PDT

And so God called Moses to come forth but he came fifth and was therefore disqualified.


Posted by: Gyarados121996
I'm playtesting right now, atm. If I can get a lobby set up.

Also, I don't think maps make MM if they have Framerate lag, which I assume is what you meant. I'm not entirely sure, I'd ask Goat.

Sounds good.

  • 01.29.2012 6:36 PM PDT

Herp derp.


Posted by: Sandtrap
TU settings, new maps, NOT community maps. Breakpoint was a start, but more variety is needed.

And for christ's sake, even though it's probably not possible, I'll moan and complain about it anyway, Covenant weapons and vehicles, NEED TO BE TWEAKED. Part of the reason I dislike Invasion in it's current state is because most Covenant stuff is useless.

Goat's map should make MM. No. Exceptions.

  • 01.29.2012 6:36 PM PDT

Less Invasion on Spire

  • 01.29.2012 6:41 PM PDT

Please don't hype for games...
They'll just fall short of your expectations and you'll complain for months.


Posted by: Gyarados121996
Goat's map should make MM. No. Exceptions.

Framerate comes to mind.

OT: More maps and TU settings would be good. Also, preferably, an updated gametype with separate Spartan and Elite settings.

I'd also prefer that invasion slayer gets some of it's own maps where the elites aren't always skunked. Maybe separate traits would help in that as well?

  • 01.29.2012 7:43 PM PDT

Boltshot = mini shotgun

More maps.
Maybe TU changes.
That's about it.

  • 01.29.2012 8:07 PM PDT

Heretic? Me? Never! You must be thinking of Elite-blam!-FTW.

NO TITLE UPDATE. EVER. EVER. EVER. EVER. EVER. EVER.

If Invasion was TU'ed, the first phase for elites would be impossible on most maps.

  • 01.29.2012 10:29 PM PDT

Leave the TU wayyy away from invasion. It doesn't need it whatsoever. More maps and more spawn points would be nice.

  • 01.29.2012 11:45 PM PDT

Heretic? Me? Never! You must be thinking of Elite-blam!-FTW.


Posted by: Penguin Egg
Leave the TU wayyy away from invasion. It doesn't need it whatsoever. More maps and more spawn points would be nice.


Penguin, maybe a Covenant flagship sort of map?

Or maybe a map based off of Glacier?

  • 01.29.2012 11:48 PM PDT

Good idea, I've been playing these two maps in customs based off Helms deep and Minas tirith lol. They're really good maps, a lot of fun, works really well with invasion gametype, though idk if they'll ever be considered.

  • 01.29.2012 11:51 PM PDT

Posted by: EliteZealotFTW
NO TITLE UPDATE. EVER. EVER. EVER. EVER. EVER. EVER.

If Invasion was TU'ed, the first phase for elites would be impossible on most maps.
no lmao

  • 01.29.2012 11:52 PM PDT

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I originally thought adding the TU to Invasion would be a good idea. However, after reading a waypoint thread by the HWM crew I learned why it would be a bad idea.

The most prominent problem I will say here is that bleedthrough screws over Elites. Their extra shielding becomes null and void with the TU shield mechanics. Also, the nerf to camo and AL affect both sides and so does 85% bloom, which makes the DMR even more deadly.

I understand the want for a TU in most (if not all) playlists; however, I feel that it should stay out of Invasion. Invasion was designed from the ground-up for Reach mechanics. It is the only default playlist in Reach that functions well with few problems.

Those of you saying the phases are imbalanced should take a closer look. It's possible to win as either side when you play your fireteam role correctly. Spire phase 1 would be a disaster if Spartans were given DMRs. It's bad enough Elites can already pick up their pistols. Imagine if Elites were picking up the DMRs you just dropped. You wouldn't get anywhere.

Only changes that should be made to Invasion at this point is the relocation of the Spire Banshee and the reduction of 4 player max to 2 player max, so as to allow good community maps.



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  • 01.29.2012 11:52 PM PDT

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Posted by: Gyarados121996
Goat's map should make MM. No. Exceptions.

I appreciate your support but let's keep the praise till after the map is done and they lower the max party size. Nobody's getting anywhere till that happens.

  • 01.29.2012 11:54 PM PDT

Invasion works fine with out the TU. I'd like to see more maps in it but that won't happen.
What I think would be some fun additions would be a Ghost spawn for tire 2 on Spire and a Fuel Rod in tire 3 on Boneyard. The later of which would put a dent in Armor Lock and getting the core out.

[Edited on 01.30.2012 1:28 AM PST]

  • 01.30.2012 1:27 AM PDT
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Posted by: Horse Repairman
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Posted by: DerpRoids
RC Clone is the anti-thesis of a lurker.

This seems like hot topic bait.

I don't care. All the good Invasion players are brainless. As evidenced by the maps they make.

  • 01.30.2012 5:32 AM PDT
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Posted by: Horse Repairman
RC RuNz the internet. Like the superintendent.

Posted by: SouthPoIe
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Posted by: DerpRoids
RC Clone is the anti-thesis of a lurker.


Posted by: TurnedSculpture

Posted by: Gyarados121996

Posted by: TurnedSculpture
My barge map would be in it. ;)

Seriously, though, I playtested it yesterday, and it was perfect.

It isn't even good until Goat gives his say. :/

Goat has seen it. He liked it.

GASP!

  • 01.30.2012 5:40 AM PDT
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Maps, for the love of God.

  • 01.30.2012 5:41 AM PDT

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