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Subject: Who thinks Bungie could have done better with Reach?

Good standalone game, "bad" Halo game. Could've been better, but I'm contempt with it at the moment.

[Edited on 01.30.2012 6:56 PM PST]

  • 01.30.2012 6:54 PM PDT

"Don't go following causes. They'll just break your heart. When idealism meets reality, it's rarely reality that backs down."

Michael Liberty, UNN

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Posted by: Zomechin
Posted by: ParagonRenegade
I want him to act like a Human being
See, you want him to act like something that he's fully not.

He a modified super-soldier who's endured much more than any regular "human being" could have. He's been morphed psychologically into who he is. Why can't you appreciate that?


That's like saying taking steroids makes people "not human". He went through training, had a Wolverine-esque process done to him, had drugs pumped into him, slapped some armor on and was sent out to fight. He's still a human being, with human emotions.


he still has emotions, but going through military training for roughly....14 years I think, would make you very good at controlling your emotions. That kind of control is key in a combat situation, so why would you expect him to stick around and shed some tears over Johnson when there are flood closing in with the intent of tearing him apart?

Go back and read "The Flood." ODST Major Silva insults the spartans to Johns face, and the only change visible is a narrowing of the eyes. The chief could have torn the major, his lieutenant, and the 2 guards outside the door, apart without even breaking a sweat, and a regular human would have tried to if someone insulted all his dead team mates. Is that what you want? for the chief to be someone who acts before thinking?

[Edited on 01.30.2012 6:57 PM PST]

  • 01.30.2012 6:55 PM PDT


Posted by: SPC COMMANDO
the RC books were awesome, but then the Clone Wars series came out and contradicted everything the books had established, and the author stopped writing them.

I know. It's so terrible. I wished to see the "end" for them.

Clone Wars is retarded anyway, calling all of the militant Mandos bad guys and in with the Death Watch.

  • 01.30.2012 6:55 PM PDT


Posted by: ParagonRenegade

Posted by: ThreeSixXero
Then again, Lucas Arts is also wasting a lot of potential in not making RC2, KOTOR III and BFIII.

Only Kotor 3 is impossible at this point. I'll admit that I'm having fun with TOR, though.

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Posted by: Horse Repairman
RC RuNz the internet. Like the superintendent.

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Clone is an internet God.

Posted by: DerpRoids
RC Clone is the anti-thesis of a lurker.

RC wars?

Get back on topic fools.

Post about how dumb Paragon is.

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Posted by: And Im Here Too
Posted by: Zomechin
Posted by: ParagonRenegade
I want him to act like a Human being
See, you want him to act like something that he's fully not.

He a modified super-soldier who's endured much more than any regular "human being" could have. He's been morphed psychologically into who he is. Why can't you appreciate that?


That's like saying taking steroids makes people "not human". He went through training, had a Wolverine-esque process done to him, had drugs pumped into him, slapped some armor on and was sent out to fight. He's still a human being, with human emotions.


he still has emotions, but going through military training for roughly....14 years I think, would make you very good at controlling your emotions. That kind of control is key in a combat situation, so why would you expect him to stick around and shed some tears over Johnson when there are flood closing in with the intent of tearing him apart?


Staying behind and mourning for a moment would have shown more character. As it is, the scene basically shows him thinking "duuuh, gotta go!" and running off. Maybe if the Flood had broken in and he whispered, "this is for you, Johnson" would have shown a lot of emotion on his part.

  • 01.30.2012 6:57 PM PDT

Posted by: CultMiester4000
I'm not really an Apple person (Bananas forever) but damn, that's kinda sad.


Posted by: ThreeSixXero

Posted by: SPC COMMANDO
the RC books were awesome, but then the Clone Wars series came out and contradicted everything the books had established, and the author stopped writing them.

I know. It's so terrible. I wished to see the "end" for them.

Clone Wars is retarded anyway, calling all of the militant Mandos bad guys and in with the Death Watch.


You follow the Knights of the Old Republic?

I always wondered where Revan and the Exile went, then Lucasarts had them killed in the retarded Revan novel


Posted by: RC Clone
Post about how dumb Paragon is.


Jellis

[Edited on 01.30.2012 6:58 PM PST]

  • 01.30.2012 6:57 PM PDT

Hi.

Posted by: And Im Here Too
Posted by: Zomechin
Posted by: ParagonRenegade
I want him to act like a Human being
See, you want him to act like something that he's fully not.

He a modified super-soldier who's endured much more than any regular "human being" could have. He's been morphed psychologically into who he is. Why can't you appreciate that?


That's like saying taking steroids makes people "not human". He went through training, had a Wolverine-esque process done to him, had drugs pumped into him, slapped some armor on and was sent out to fight. He's still a human being, with human emotions.
As if being kidnapped at early age, put through intense training for a long period, and then fighting in a seemingly never-ending war with parasitic creatures and sadistic aliens wouldn't drastically damage a person psychologically.

We can both assume things, but the person who assumes that there's a reason rather than not a reason is going to enjoy themselves more.

  • 01.30.2012 6:58 PM PDT


Posted by: ParagonRenegade

Posted by: ThreeSixXero

Posted by: SPC COMMANDO
the RC books were awesome, but then the Clone Wars series came out and contradicted everything the books had established, and the author stopped writing them.

I know. It's so terrible. I wished to see the "end" for them.

Clone Wars is retarded anyway, calling all of the militant Mandos bad guys and in with the Death Watch.


You follow the Knights of the Old Republic?

I always wondered where Revan and the Exile went, then Lucasarts had them killed in the retarded Revan novel

LAWD SCOOOOOOURGE.

  • 01.30.2012 6:59 PM PDT

Hi.

Posted by: And Im Here Too
Maybe if the Flood had broken in and he whispered, "this is for you, Johnson" would have shown a lot of emotion on his part.
Pride is an annoying attribute, and him uttering that out loud instantly deems that as an act of pride.

Why do want to turn Master Chief into some corny, annoying character?

  • 01.30.2012 7:00 PM PDT

Posted by: CultMiester4000
I'm not really an Apple person (Bananas forever) but damn, that's kinda sad.

I -blam!- hate George Lucas; did you know he has to approve all Star Wars media?

Holy -blam!- he's screwed up so bad

OT; everyone here is correct in a way

[Edited on 01.30.2012 7:01 PM PST]

  • 01.30.2012 7:00 PM PDT

"Don't go following causes. They'll just break your heart. When idealism meets reality, it's rarely reality that backs down."

Michael Liberty, UNN

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Posted by: RC Clone

Post about how dumb Paragon is.


I'll let you do that. Stealing your thunder and acting like a jackass are 2 things I would rather avoid.

  • 01.30.2012 7:03 PM PDT


Posted by: Zomechin
Why do want to turn Master Chief into some corny, annoying character?

All I know is...

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Posted by: Zomechin
Posted by: And Im Here Too
Maybe if the Flood had broken in and he whispered, "this is for you, Johnson" would have shown a lot of emotion on his part.
Pride is an annoying attribute, and him uttering that out loud instantly deems that as an act of pride.

Why do want to turn Master Chief into some corny, annoying character?


He's already a corny, annoying character.

Every being that lives has pride in them. Showing pride would show humanity. It would show that he's not just some suit with a gun. Johnson was a prideful character, and he was hands down the best character in all of Halo. Thel 'Vadam had pride, and he was a close second.

John had no pride, because he had no emotion. If I just stood and stared at whatever was happening, my body language never going beyond blank indifference, that wouldn't make me human, that would make me a brick wall.

[Edited on 01.30.2012 7:07 PM PST]

  • 01.30.2012 7:06 PM PDT
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Posted by: Horse Repairman
RC RuNz the internet. Like the superintendent.

Posted by: SouthPoIe
Clone is an internet God.

Posted by: DerpRoids
RC Clone is the anti-thesis of a lurker.


Posted by: ParagonRenegade
I -blam!- hate George Lucas; did you know he has to approve all Star Wars media?

Holy -blam!- he's screwed up so bad

OT; everyone here is correct in a way

So you are a 12 year old "in a way"

Thanks.

  • 01.30.2012 7:09 PM PDT

I'm in love with Jesus and proud of it!

...is this a trick question OP?

  • 01.30.2012 7:10 PM PDT
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Posted by: Horse Repairman
RC RuNz the internet. Like the superintendent.

Posted by: SouthPoIe
Clone is an internet God.

Posted by: DerpRoids
RC Clone is the anti-thesis of a lurker.


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Posted by: RC Clone

Post about how dumb Paragon is.


I'll let you do that. Stealing your thunder and acting like a jackass are 2 things I would rather avoid.

It's okay if you are anonymous

  • 01.30.2012 7:11 PM PDT

Hi.

Posted by: And Im Here Too
He's already a corny, annoying character.
But you said he's basically a robot. How could he be annoying? He doesn't talk - he doesn't do anything.
Posted by: And Im Here Too
Every being that lives has pride in them. Showing pride would show humanity. It would show that he's not just some suit with a gun. Johnson was a prideful character, and he was hands down the best character in all of Halo. Thel 'Vadam had pride, and he was a close second.
Having pride is one thing, showing it is another. Having pride is having confidence, showing pride is having an ego.

Johnson had an ego. So did Thel. Master Chief doesn't. So? Do all of Halo's main characters have to have egos? Can't we spice it up a little, have one actually different-minded character? I'd hope so.

The only way to progress MC's character without damaging/changing it is through actions in difficult circumstances, and I'm glad 343 has openly admitted that.

  • 01.30.2012 7:12 PM PDT

"Don't go following causes. They'll just break your heart. When idealism meets reality, it's rarely reality that backs down."

Michael Liberty, UNN

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Posted by: Zomechin
Why do want to turn Master Chief into some corny, annoying character?

All I know is...


A video made, clearly, by a Mass Effect fan who gives mandalorians no credit what so ever when it comes to combat. They don't all use jetpacks, carry only 2 pistols, and act like morons.

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Posted by: Zomechin
But you said he's basically a robot. How could he be annoying? He doesn't talk - he doesn't do anything.


He's annoying because he's so static.

Having pride is one thing, showing it is another. Having pride is having confidence, showing pride is having an ego.

Johnson had an ego. So did Thel. Master Chief doesn't. So? Do all of Halo's main characters have to have egos?


Johnson and Thel were interesting because of their pride. Johnson's ego made him a fun character. Thel's ego made him relatable; he had valid reasons to be furious at Truth. He was in it to get revenge. He showed emotion. John basically just goes where the more interesting characters point to and shoots stuff.

  • 01.30.2012 7:16 PM PDT

Hi.

Posted by: And Im Here Too
Posted by: Zomechin
But you said he's basically a robot. How could he be annoying? He doesn't talk - he doesn't do anything.


He's annoying because he's so static.
I thought you meant that his character traits themselves were annoying. You're simply annoyed that he's not your personally catered character. He's a quiet guy who's been shaped by events. The events have been ever-dynamic and the results have been too. You're asking for a different character, not a refined/improved one.
Posted by: And Im Here Too
Johnson and Thel were interesting because of their pride. Johnson's ego made him a fun character. Thel's ego made him relatable; he had valid reasons to be furious at Truth. He was in it to get revenge. He showed emotion. John basically just goes where the more interesting characters point to and shoots stuff.
So because an attribute works for a couple characters, we should just slap it on any (unfitting) character?

Also, I have to go because Bnet is really slow right now and it's annoying me. Lol.

Nice arguing with you. ^_^

  • 01.30.2012 7:28 PM PDT

Heretic? Me? Never! You must be thinking of Elite-blam!-FTW.

I just saw the title and I thought one thing.

RC Clone.

Ohaider!

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Also, I have to go because Bnet is really slow right now and it's annoying me. Lol.

Nice arguing with you. ^_^


Alrighty, see you around.

  • 01.30.2012 7:33 PM PDT


Posted by: SPC COMMANDO

Posted by: ThreeSixXero

Posted by: Zomechin
Why do want to turn Master Chief into some corny, annoying character?

All I know is...


A video made, clearly, by a Mass Effect fan who gives mandalorians no credit what so ever when it comes to combat. They don't all use jetpacks, carry only 2 pistols, and act like morons.

MUST JETPACK TO GUY WITH LAZER SWORD.

  • 01.30.2012 7:34 PM PDT

Posted by: CultMiester4000
I'm not really an Apple person (Bananas forever) but damn, that's kinda sad.

Hey guize wat's this thred abowt

  • 01.30.2012 7:42 PM PDT