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Subject: Could there be more spartans? Not Will, Fred, Linda, Kelly and the MC

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I remember reading in one of the books that, during the time when the Spartans were getting the whole "Capture the prophet" mission, some spartans weren't present because they were either Incapacitated, or too far away to recall, if I remember correctly.

Using this information, isn't it possible that their are a couple more spartans?

  • 05.16.2006 4:51 PM PDT

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"Their" are more Spartans.. Whether they'd be in the game, I have no idea.

  • 05.16.2006 4:52 PM PDT

there is also the next generation of spartans who were being trained towards the end of The Fall of Reach

  • 05.16.2006 4:54 PM PDT

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On a related note, isn't "Their" used to imply ownership, and thus have no place in the title? I think There is correct. Though, if I'm wrong, please say so.

and I'm not trying to create a "Will spartans be in Halo 3" discussion. I'm just wonder ing if people think their are more spartans other tahn Will, Kelly, Fred, Linda, and the MC.

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There were A LOT of other spartans, but they all died during training during The Fall of Reach book. Also i doubt other spartans will be in the game, because, Reach where they were, bred, trained, and combat readied was destroyed and seeing as the earth is getting it up the butt hard from the Covenant, i doubt there will be anymore spartans.

  • 05.16.2006 4:57 PM PDT

it said that, but if you follow the numbers-
75 recieved the augmentation...
30 died from the sugery...
3 died in combat before reach...
30 were at reach, 27 went to the surface, 3 to the space dock...
21 of those spartans died at reach...
4 died after the main battle was over...
5 survived reach...
that leaves 2 unnacounted for..
but the book said 3 were too far away to be recalled im confused too

also the SPARTAN I & III programs were unaccounted for so there may be more SPARTANs jus not like the one we know

sorry if i messed up the numbers, i dont have the books to check right now but i do remember that the numbers dont match up

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  • 05.16.2006 4:59 PM PDT

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Posted by: Apocalypse3210
it said that, but if you follow the numbers-
75 recieved the augmentation...
30 died from the sugery...
3 died in combat before reach...
30 were at reach, 27 went to the surface, 3 to the space dock...
21 of those spartans died at reach...
4 died after the main battle was over...
5 survived reach...
that leaves 2 unnacounted for..
but the book said 3 were too far away to be recalled im confused too

also the SPARTAN I & III programs were unaccounted for so there may be more SPARTANs jus not like the one we know

sorry if i messed up the numbers, i dont have the books to check right now but i do remember that the numbers dont match up


During the mission briefing for the "Capture a Prophet" Spartan mission, a "glitch" in the numbers occurs:
The Master Chief and two dozen other Spartans (25 total) were present
3 were reported to have died within the last decade
3 were too far away to be recalled
1 was too injured to continue active duty

That totals 32 Spartans. When you include Sam, who died right after getting the MJOLNIR armor, you have all 33 Spartans who survived the augmentation (or so it's assumed). Yet, during the events that occur as the Pillar of Autumn is leaving Reach on its mission, there are 30 Spartans present. Out of the 33 Spartans that survived the augmentation, there were 28 who were able to go on the mission: The Master Chief, the two dozen other Spartans at the briefing, and the 3 who were too far away to be recalled.

Now, the Pillar of Autumn didn't leave immediately after the mission briefing; Cortana had to be introduced to the Master Chief, the PoA had to finish its refit, etc. This means that when Dr. Halsey said 3 Spartans were too far away to be recalled, she was probably talking about being recalled to the briefing, but they arrive back in time for the mission itself. This would mean that there are two Spartans unaccounted for that went on the mission.

There are two possibilities for this. The first is probably the most practical, which is simply that the "two dozen" other Spartans wasn't exactly 24 Spartans. When the word "dozen" is used, oftentimes it is used as an estimate. If the "two dozen" was literally translated as 26 Spartans, then there could be a total of 30 who were able to go on the mission, which we know is what occured. Also, a "baker's dozen" is a count of 13, so if the author was being extra sneaky, then "two dozen" could be 26 Spartans, if he was using bakers' standards.

The other possibility, which goes hand-in-hand with the first possibility, is that two of the 3 who had died in the last decade were from the 12 Spartans who survived the augmentation but suffered side effects. This would leave 2 Spartans unaccounted for by Dr. Halsey, which can be explained by the "dozen" estimate.

  • 05.16.2006 5:18 PM PDT