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Subject: Do you think Exalted members should be allowed to embed images?

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Posted by: RollinRollin13
(I kid. It's a worse idea then giving Mythic members extra privileges. You can't vouch for ever Exalted member. Heck, half of the population of Exalted users are probably just people who haven't logged into their account in a really long time, and in turn, haven't had the chance to do anything ban worthy.)

But people who abuse the ability would be banned, and thus lose the ability along with their title. It's no different than people who already get banned for poor behavior, with the exception of adding an incentive toward good behavior.

  • 01.30.2012 9:57 PM PDT

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Not "Exalted Members" or "Exalted Heroic Members", because I know many people who are now exalted that rarely visit this site, so they would need to show some sort of dedication or meet a certain criteria in all fields (posts, acc age, activity).

So basically: Yes.

  • 01.30.2012 10:03 PM PDT
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All information can be conveyed in a post without a picture (and before you say it, keep in mind we could still [url] linked picture [/url] ), so a embedded image is never necessary. So, if a embedded image is never necessary, then when do you use it and what's the point?

In contrast, if we're allow to use the embed image ability as long as it's on-topic, then it could easily spam up the forums with uninteresting, over-sized or eye catching images.
Posted by: Ric_Adbur
But people who abuse the ability would be banned, and thus lose the ability along with their title. It's no different than people who already get banned for poor behavior, with the exception of adding an incentive toward good behavior.


[Edited on 01.30.2012 10:09 PM PST]

  • 01.30.2012 10:05 PM PDT
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Posted by: THORSGOD
Members can also be inactive for three years and be ban free and have Exalted. Then they can come back and there we go.

And the Mythic swimsuit pictures aren't trolling, it's just nasty.


Who the hell would do that?

  • 01.30.2012 10:08 PM PDT
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Posted by: xReconAssassinX
Not "Exalted Members" or "Exalted Heroic Members", because I know many people who are now exalted that rarely visit this site, so they would need to show some sort of dedication or meet a certain criteria in all fields (posts, acc age, activity).

So basically: Yes.

Using the exact same argument that you've used, you might as well restrict it to Mythic members only.

  • 01.30.2012 10:09 PM PDT
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Posted by: RollinRollin13
Yes. As an Exalted member I feel that I can vouch for all of us in saying that we will never, ever, ever! abuse this privilege. Ever.

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(I kid. It's a worse idea then giving Mythic members extra privileges. You can't vouch for ever Exalted member. Heck, half of the population of Exalted users are probably just people who haven't logged into their account in a really long time, and in turn, haven't had the chance to do anything ban worthy.)


If an exalted member abuses the privilege by trolling with images, then he/she loses the exalted status and thus, the privilege.

  • 01.30.2012 10:10 PM PDT
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Posted by: Izak609
How? Those don't break any rules as long as I post them where they aren't off-topic.


Bungie limits the number of imbedded images Exalted Members can post to 1-2 per day.

[Edited on 01.30.2012 10:17 PM PST]

  • 01.30.2012 10:13 PM PDT

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I don't think letting a certain user group having privileges over another would be fair, with the obvious exception of the Ninjas.
That already happens with group creation; users have to be members for a least a fortnight before being able to create a group.

Really?

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Posted by: xReconAssassinX
Not "Exalted Members" or "Exalted Heroic Members", because I know many people who are now exalted that rarely visit this site, so they would need to show some sort of dedication or meet a certain criteria in all fields (posts, acc age, activity).

So basically: Yes.

Using the exact same argument that you've used, you might as well restrict it to Mythic members only.

But I'm no Mythic Member, am I?

  • 01.30.2012 10:19 PM PDT

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Posted by: Ric_Adbur
It's not 'elitism,' it's an incentive. Maybe if the titles were actually worth something, less people here would see getting banned as a kind of 'badge of honor,' and would behave better.
Why should anyone need extra incentive to follow the rules? Either people will or they won't. Those who are prone to breaking them wouldn't turn into goody two-shoes because an arbitrary title allows them to embed images, especially when it can already be achieved through user scripts.
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Posted by: Izak609
What about the people like me and InsaneAssas1n9, who have the title but still disagree with the idea?
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Mine was only a half serious reply. I just feel this would be contrary to the whole "titles are just for fun" thing, but I do acknowledge that the trust earned by a member to achieve that title is a real significant factor. I don't believe there's any real definition you could give that would ring true in every case for non-moderator members being able to post images. For these reasons, I'm against it.

[Edited on 01.30.2012 10:53 PM PST]

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Posted by: XoG Suppressor
Mine was only a half serious reply.
I understand, I was interested in what you'd say in reply to the question, be it serious or light. I think you well summed up the subject at hand. I just feel this would be contrary to the whole "titles are just for fun" thing, but I do acknowledge that the trust earned by a member to achieve that title is a real significant factor. I don't believe there's any real definition you could give that would ring true in every case for non-moderator members being able to post images. For these reasons, I'm against it.

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Posted by: Ric_Adbur
But people who abuse the ability would be banned.

If you're going to use the "Abuse you lose" argument you may as well just give everyone the same privilege. That way, if you abuse it you get bant!!!

I really don't see why you would need to embed images onto this site anyway, wouldn't that ability just hemorrhage bandwidth?

  • 01.30.2012 11:53 PM PDT
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I like my page load times low, and my forum "not full of uninteresting junk", thanks.

  • 01.31.2012 12:02 AM PDT

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Theres quite a few Exalted members over 3000 acording to http://bungie.me/stats, the ninja's will be more busier, plus the load times on some pages will be slow. I dont think this would be a good idea.

  • 01.31.2012 12:12 AM PDT

It just seems better that nobody (other than employees) can embed images. It would increase page loading times, there are quite a lot of Exalted members around too. And just because a member hasn't been banned in 4 years doesn't mean they will never abuse a special feature.

  • 01.31.2012 12:21 AM PDT

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Not worth the potential trouble. I think there are better ways to incentivize people to stick with one account.

  • 01.31.2012 12:21 AM PDT
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Better idea, let's make Mythic Members "Assistant Ninjas" that can ban who they want because if you've been here long enough to get Mythic and haven't been banned obviously you can be trusted with moderator powers.Posted by: CoRaMo
Posted by: Izak609
How? Those don't break any rules as long as I post them where they aren't off-topic.
Bungie limits the number of imbedded images Exalted Members can post to 1-2 per day.
Of course! Mythic members should only be able to ban 1-2 people per day to stop them from abusing their powers!


Also make it so fabled members don't have the spam filter!
They shouldn't have to wait to post anymore, obviously they're trusted being allowed to post so much!


And make it so ninjas can nuke forums and create new ones!
I mean, if they're trusted enough to be ninjas obviously they're responsible enough to nuke forums.


And Heroic members should be able to alter other people's posts!
I mean, if they're here long enough to be heroic obviously they can be trusted with altering other people's posts.


Legendary members should be able to post to the front page!
YESYESYESYESYESYES.

[Edited on 01.31.2012 12:53 AM PST]

  • 01.31.2012 12:46 AM PDT

Posted by: MassDrunkenness
Everybody should be able to,
No, because new users, for example, cannot and should not be trusted with tools and features that can have a major impact on other users' use here.

Posted by: MassDrunkenness
this forum is so bereft of poster rights it is unbelievable, every other forum I have been to you have been able to embed pictures and Youtube videos, and most other forums I have been to allow swearing.
Two points to make:

1) A lot of people who frequently visit this forum and either criticise or suggest site features, often seem to completely disregard the site as a whole, and the main reason people are here; they don't look at user demographics.

2) "Every web forum is the way it is because users wanted it that way. Yes, the design of the forum software certainly influences behavior, but the classic 2001-era web forum paradigm assumed that what users wanted made sense for the rest of the larger internet. As it turns out, groups are their own worst enemy. What groups want, and what the rest of the world needs, are often two very different things. As it turns out, groups are their own worst enemy. What groups want, and what the rest of the world needs, are often two very different things."

The quote above is from an article on Gamification by Jeff Atwood, here. I encourage everyone to read it as well. I posted it because I think it's applicable to my first point.


The "page load time" argument is void too, since, presumably, images would not be stored on bungie.net, whichs allows browsers to download them asynchronously and simultaneously with the bungie.net page.

  • 01.31.2012 1:12 AM PDT

No, not even Ninjas can embed images.

  • 01.31.2012 1:13 AM PDT

Poor idea. Linking it to ban history/exalted title/the trust system as a whole would probably mean that you can't ban people for being knobs and embedding giant pictures every other post, despite them entirely deserving it or some other variety of smack to the head for being a knob.

Well you could, but can you imagine the complaints from 'baaaaaaaaw but I think it was a perfectly reasonable choice to link such a massive image why am I banned from doing it again for 3 years baaaaaaaaaaaww'.

  • 01.31.2012 1:39 AM PDT

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I think it should stay the same, nobody except employees of the webteam can post embedded images on the forums.

I do think that Forum Moderators should have this feature though.

[Edited on 01.31.2012 3:50 AM PST]

  • 01.31.2012 3:49 AM PDT