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Subject: About the "Warning on Leaking/Rumor Mongering..."
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Posted by: xXdeathomenXx
I think if a poster posts something that's leaked they probably won't know it's leaked..... unless they leaked it themselves.... and therefore should not get banned.... unlesss of course they leaked it.


Bottom line, if something official is leaked and it makes its way onto the forums... who's to blame? The Bungie or Microsoft official that leaked in the first place, that's who.

It's different if I start a thread like this.

Title: OMG Official news on Weapons!

Text: Bungie insiders claim that dual wielding has been canned due to the fact that unskilled gamers can defeat skilled gamers with only the element of surprise.

whatever whatever whatever, you get the idea.

  • 05.17.2006 1:36 AM PDT
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if you ignore him and get back on topic he'll eventually go away

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Posted by: Stapleyurdog
Deathomen, do you actually believe that piece of offal that is your signature? Or are you mocking the deranged fool who coined it?


it's a quote from a band... lay off.



Why should I "Lay off"? If you saw someone with a signature that insulted your country, morals, or personal beliefs would you let it slide? And so what if it is lyrics of a band? Does that make it any less stupid? You chose to copy those lyrics and by that you are showing that you agree with them. Can there be any logical reason for this?

  • 05.17.2006 1:39 AM PDT
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Posted by: jarell88
i think you should let this die and post this again when this idiot is banned, or wait for the blacklist and continue.


If nothing else he's keeping this forum near the top... at least people get to read my point and vote in the poll. Once he's blacklisted I'll steer us back on point. Until then... keep trucking, and direct your friends here; let's get the ball rolling.

  • 05.17.2006 1:41 AM PDT
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Posted by: xXdeathomenXx
if you ignore him and get back on topic he'll eventually go away


Probably not. People like him that lack the social skills to carry on an intelligent conversation with peers often resort to attempting to sabotage other people's conversations. It shows a level of immaturity that is often associated with annonemity.

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Posted by: Stapleyurdog
Posted by: xXdeathomenXx

Posted by: Stapleyurdog
Deathomen, do you actually believe that piece of offal that is your signature? Or are you mocking the deranged fool who coined it?


it's a quote from a band... lay off.



Why should I "Lay off"? If you saw someone with a signature that insulted your country, morals, or personal beliefs would you let it slide? And so what if it is lyrics of a band? Does that make it any less stupid? You chose to copy those lyrics and by that you are showing that you agree with them. Can there be any logical reason for this?



I assume you're american? the whole basis of our country is reason enough for you to "lay off" freedom of speech and freedom of press give me the right to write whater i want.....you don't see me going and telling you in a pulbic forum how stupid and senseless your sig is do you? so what's your problem?.... i hope that "german" dude plagues you til' you decide to butt out of other people's business.... if i was offended by someone's sig i would send them a note telling them so.... i would not try and "flame" them in a public forum. grow up.

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Posted by: Stapleyurdog
Posted by: xXdeathomenXx

Posted by: Stapleyurdog
Deathomen, do you actually believe that piece of offal that is your signature? Or are you mocking the deranged fool who coined it?


it's a quote from a band... lay off.



Why should I "Lay off"? If you saw someone with a signature that insulted your country, morals, or personal beliefs would you let it slide? And so what if it is lyrics of a band? Does that make it any less stupid? You chose to copy those lyrics and by that you are showing that you agree with them. Can there be any logical reason for this?


Seriously, who cares? Why are you getting into this? If it's his view that the quote is accurate, let it go. If you disagree, so be it. I see considerable amounts of statements that go against my political views, but more often than not I simply ignore them and move on. He didn't challenge you directly or ask you to agree; you're the one that challenged him. Would you change your sig if someone found it offensive, innaccurate, whatever? It's really not a big deal.

And if you do have a problem, voice it over PM.

  • 05.17.2006 1:44 AM PDT
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What if someone posts the plot to Halo 3? You'd spend all this time discussing whether it is real or not, and if it is real then that's the game spoilt, more than a year before it is actually released.

Discussing rumours will spoil the game for some people. The ninja's stance is justified.

P.S. Don't feed the trolls.

  • 05.17.2006 1:46 AM PDT
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Thank You icantfindaname

[Edited on 5/17/2006]

  • 05.17.2006 1:46 AM PDT
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Posted by: xXdeathomenXx
Posted by: Stapleyurdog
Posted by: xXdeathomenXx

Posted by: Stapleyurdog
Deathomen, do you actually believe that piece of offal that is your signature? Or are you mocking the deranged fool who coined it?


it's a quote from a band... lay off.



Why should I "Lay off"? If you saw someone with a signature that insulted your country, morals, or personal beliefs would you let it slide? And so what if it is lyrics of a band? Does that make it any less stupid? You chose to copy those lyrics and by that you are showing that you agree with them. Can there be any logical reason for this?



I assume you're american? the whole basis of our country is reason enough for you to "lay off" freedom of speech and freedom of press give me the right to write whater i want.....you don't see me going and telling you in a pulbic forum how stupid and senseless your sig is do you? so what's your problem?.... i hope that "german" dude plagues you til' you decide to butt out of other people's business.... if i was offended by someone's sig i would send them a note telling them so.... i would not try and "flame" them in a public forum. grow up.


As for you... move on too. While I agree with the basis of your defense, don't huff up and challenge him back. Ignore it or address it in a more civil manner (and take your own advice; us PM).

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Posted by: xXdeathomenXx
Thank You icantfindaname


Did you mean Thank* you?

  • 05.17.2006 1:48 AM PDT
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i could say the same thing to you.... you could have pmed both of ur last posts.... lets just lay off now and get back on topic




if you'll look i went back and edited it.... it says thank you now and has for a while.... what's ur problem dude?

[Edited on 5/17/2006]

  • 05.17.2006 1:50 AM PDT
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Posted by: Ninja_Biscuits
What if someone posts the plot to Halo 3? You'd spend all this time discussing whether it is real or not, and if it is real then that's the game spoilt, more than a year before it is actually released.

Discussing rumours will spoil the game for some people. The ninja's stance is justified.

P.S. Don't feed the trolls.


At least it would give us something solid to debate. And if the actual plot was posted, that is something that would be blacklist worthy. I would love to find or hear about tidbits of the Halo 3 plot to debate.

Understand, I'm not arguing that all blacklists for these violations are irrational/unfair. However, I think that, the way the rules are worded, many will be unwilling to post speculation or rumors OR will be unfairly blacklisted for said rumors.

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True enough, but I was trying to head off the inevitable flow of others interjecting their opinions as well.

Back to the (original) topic :-)

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i gotta crash... just realised it's 4 a.m. and i have work in 3.5 hours.... see y'all later.


P.s. i say they should make a forum for Halo3 rumors and leaks speculation, and only blacklist someone who posted an Actual Leak!.... the only people that can do that if you think about it are microsoft/bungie employies and bill gates himself has leaked info........

  • 05.17.2006 1:54 AM PDT
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Posted by: Ninja_Biscuits
What if someone posts the plot to Halo 3? You'd spend all this time discussing whether it is real or not, and if it is real then that's the game spoilt, more than a year before it is actually released.

Discussing rumours will spoil the game for some people. The ninja's stance is justified.

P.S. Don't feed the trolls.


At least it would give us something solid to debate. And if the actual plot was posted, that is something that would be blacklist worthy. I would love to find or hear about tidbits of the Halo 3 plot to debate.

Understand, I'm not arguing that all blacklists for these violations are irrational/unfair. However, I think that, the way the rules are worded, many will be unwilling to post speculation or rumors OR will be unfairly blacklisted for said rumors.

The flaw in your argument: And if the actual plot was posted, that is something that would be blacklist worthy.
If they only blacklisted for true rumours, this leaves people to debate whether rumours they know aren't true are true or not. Its not really something solid to debate at all. Shouldn't this be in the Septagon?

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Posted by: xXdeathomenXx
i gotta crash... just realised it's 4 a.m. and i have work in 3.5 hours.... see y'all later.


P.s. i say they should make a forum for Halo3 rumors and leaks speculation, and only blacklist someone who posted an Actual Leak!.... the only people that can do that if you think about it are microsoft/bungie employies and bill gates himself has leaked info........


Agreed anyway I need to get of to work it's about 10am over here so see ya tonight

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The basis of our country is giving you freedom of speach so you can say that we should not have law? And why would someone who appealed to the law be a fool or a coward? Are you saying that we should just kill anybody that pisses us off instead of dealing with things in a more mature and legal manner? And why would a cripple or a little old lady be a fool and a coward for being incapable to defending themselves? What is the twisted logic behind that? And how in the hell is it Honor to justify murder?

It is my freedom of speech to tell you that your signature is illogical and backwards. Just the same as you would be able to tell my if I was saying something stupid like it was fact. I am not flaming you for your odd decision in having that as your signature, I was pointing out that the system that we have now is indefinetly better than what is described in that song.

And why would I have to grow up to discuss something like that?

  • 05.17.2006 1:58 AM PDT
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Posted by: xXdeathomenXx
i could say the same thing to you.... you could have pmed both of ur last posts.... lets just lay off now and get back on topic




if you'll look i went back and edited it.... it says thank you now and has for a while.... what's ur problem dude?


Do I need to have a problem to attempt to help you when you accidently spelled something wrong?

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Posted by: Stapleyurdog
The basis of our country is giving you freedom of speach so you can say that we should not have law? And why would someone who appealed to the law be a fool or a coward? Are you saying that we should just kill anybody that pisses us off instead of dealing with things in a more mature and legal manner? And why would a cripple or a little old lady be a fool and a coward for being incapable to defending themselves? What is the twisted logic behind that? And how in the hell is it Honor to justify murder?

It is my freedom of speech to tell you that your signature is illogical and backwards. Just the same as you would be able to tell my if I was saying something stupid like it was fact. I am not flaming you for your odd decision in having that as your signature, I was pointing out that the system that we have now is indefinetly better than what is described in that song.

And why would I have to grow up to discuss something like that?




Are you still on about that?

  • 05.17.2006 2:00 AM PDT

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