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Subject: Should users be able to lock their own threads?

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Posted by: Old Papa Rich
I'm not in favor of this idea. I believe too many threads would be locked for the wrong reasons.

Posted by: MetalxTongue
No.
Posted by: dazarobbo
Would you still support it if it were based on what title you held?
It's kind of hard to separate the two. Your title is based on that same trust rating.
But if it's based on your trust rating, we would never know exactly WHEN we could lock and could not lock a thread of ours. There would be no indicator. If there was a set title criterion, then we would be able to see it.

The trust rating is not viewable while the titles are.

  • 02.04.2012 7:56 AM PDT

Posted by: Baph117
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No. A thread doesn't belong to the OP just because he made the first post in it.

  • 02.04.2012 8:00 AM PDT

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If I am not posting, then I am reading what you might have posted.

I think that if they were to be locked for the wrong reasons, then action can be taken to affect that person's trust, because of locking their own thread inappropriately.

It would be hard to try and separate the two since they both fall into the same spot.....But there might be some other way to allow this feature with trust, maybe a much more in depth trust system..?!
Posted by: Old Papa Rich
I'm not in favor of this idea. I believe too many threads would be locked for the wrong reasons.

Posted by: MetalxTongue
No.
Posted by: dazarobbo
Would you still support it if it were based on what title you held?
It's kind of hard to separate the two. Your title is based on that same trust rating.

  • 02.04.2012 8:06 AM PDT

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No, leave it to the ninjas to do that. It's their job.

[Edited on 02.04.2012 8:16 AM PST]

  • 02.04.2012 8:09 AM PDT

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Absolutely this.

Posted by: spartain ken 15
No, the thread belongs to the forum as soon as you press submit.

  • 02.04.2012 8:09 AM PDT

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Posted by: Seggi31
No. A thread doesn't belong to the OP just because he made the first post in it.
Everyone needs to STOP using this offense against the idea.

The thread doesn't belong to Forum Ninjas, yet they can lock it. They're just normal users like everybody else who Bungie trusts to lock threads that are either in the wrong place or have no (more) discussion value.

This thread is obviously a discussion (at its base) as to whether or not Bungie should trust their users to lock threads of their own that they no longer think has discussion value, or has been placed into the incorrect area.

I personally think this could work, so long as there was a limit of one or two thread locks a week, and there was a "queue" (I guess you could call it that) to show moderators when a thread is locked, so that they have an easy way to see if the feature, ability, what have you, is being abused.

This could serve as an indicator for the possibility of bans/warnings being issued or, if abused heavily by the entire community, the removal of the ability to lock your own thread.

So stop making this about possession. Because it isn't about possession at all.

  • 02.04.2012 8:15 AM PDT

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Posted by: CrazzySnipe55


But it's a pretty good reason as to why you shouldn't be able to lock your own threads.

You're right in your assertion that the ninjas are regular users with a few more responsibilities but one of those responsibilities is to lock threads that are harmful, out of place, etc. You're right that it's not about possession in this instance; it's about a responsibility the ninjas were afforded by the webteam.

Generally, if an idea could work if you add a lot of complicated metrics, it's probably not a good idea. :)

Posted by: dazarobbo
Would you still support it if it were based on what title you held?


It already is.

[Edited on 02.04.2012 8:27 AM PST]

  • 02.04.2012 8:23 AM PDT

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Posted by: dazarobbo
Would you still support it if it were based on what title you held?


What is with this forum and these kind of terrible ideas?

  • 02.04.2012 8:26 AM PDT

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Posted by: ctjl96
If we could trust everyone to use it responsibly, yes. Unfortunately, that's not the case.

Exactly, not everyone can be trusted with such a feature.

  • 02.04.2012 8:29 AM PDT
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I think that if you post "lock this," the Ninjas would lock it for you without a warning or ban.

  • 02.04.2012 8:31 AM PDT

Posted by : True Underdog
It already is.
Which is the exact reason I asked.

  • 02.04.2012 8:59 AM PDT
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asking mods to lock my thread is enough for me.

  • 02.04.2012 9:03 AM PDT

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Posted by: lime013
I think that if you post "lock this," the Ninjas would lock it for you without a warning or ban.
But then there's the debate of people who think you shouldn't be able to replace your OP or even thread title with "Lock this" after a simple question was answered because:

Posted by: AnnoyingUserWhoThinksThey'reSmartBecauseTheyAreAttempting ToUseWhatTheyThinkIsLogic117


OH THIS DISCUSSION BELONGS TO THE COMMUNITY NOW AND YOU DONT HAVE THE RIGHT TO TAKE AWAY THE OP AND ASK FOR A LOCK RAWR RAWR RAWR!!!".


There's always going to be people who -blam!- about everything just because they can.

[Edited on 02.04.2012 9:09 AM PST]

  • 02.04.2012 9:06 AM PDT

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Posted by: dazarobbo
Posted by : True Underdog
It already is.
Which is the exact reason I asked.


I'm aware. :)

[Edited on 02.04.2012 9:11 AM PST]

  • 02.04.2012 9:11 AM PDT

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Posted by: CrazzySnipe55
There's always going to be people who -blam!- about everything just because they can.


I would wager that there are more people that say users shouldn't be able to lock their own threads than those who would say people shouldn't be able to request ninjas to lock their threads. I think you know this, too and are just trying to be obtuse for the sake of it.

[Edited on 02.04.2012 9:14 AM PST]

  • 02.04.2012 9:14 AM PDT

Posted by: CrazzySnipe55
Definitely what he said. I don't think a thread belongs to anyone. Once the OP presses submit, it's not his, and it's not ours, it's just chillin' there all on its lonesome.

The threads have no master!

  • 02.04.2012 9:17 AM PDT

I think we should be able to lock our threads. I can already just delete my OP and change the thread title to "please lock mods", why can't I just take care of it myself?

"But trolls can make a bunch of threads and then lock them!"

Isn't that what would have happened already?

"Once someone makes a thread, that thread belongs to the community!"

No it dosen't. I don't feel like getting into the nuances of copyright law that keeps this from being true, but it is. If the community wants to discuss something after the OP locks the thread, then someone else can start the discussion again.

  • 02.04.2012 9:17 AM PDT

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Posted by: coolmike699
I think we should be able to lock our threads. I can already just delete my OP and change the thread title to "please lock mods", why can't I just take care of it myself?

"But trolls can make a bunch of threads and then lock them!"

Isn't that what would have happened already?


It gives us a chance to look over them. There are plenty of times where someone asks for the mods to lock a thread, tries to play the victim, but with a bit of looking around in the thread, one can see that they weren't exactly playing nice and at the very least can get a verbal warning to act right.

  • 02.04.2012 9:23 AM PDT

I don't always ban people but when I do I laugh uncontrollably...that's if I was a Forum Ninja.

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As long as we could only lock our threads and no one else's, I don't see why not. Although there are some people who would just make threads and lock them right away.

  • 02.04.2012 9:29 AM PDT

Jack of all trades, master of none.

I think it's a good idea. We shouldn't judge the ability of the community based on the minority. Most of the time, peole will lock their own thread because discussion is getting out of hand. Why would someone lock their own thread without reason anyway? people want responses from the community.

And, why not add an option, if another member thinks it was wrongfully locked, or the OP deserves some sort of comeuppance for their maturity? That way, it will mostly save time where the cause is legitimate, and still result in apporpriate action being taken when it is not.

[Edited on 02.04.2012 9:31 AM PST]

  • 02.04.2012 9:29 AM PDT

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If I am not posting, then I am reading what you might have posted.

Or there can be something that asks you why you want to lock it, and then it is sent to the Ninja's queue...?!
Posted by: QuirkyNate
As long as we could only lock our threads and no one else's, I don't see why not. Although there are some people who would just make threads and lock them right away.

  • 02.04.2012 9:30 AM PDT

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Posted by: MetalxTongue
Or there can be something that asks you why you want to lock it, and then it is sent to the Ninja's queue...?!
Posted by: QuirkyNate
As long as we could only lock our threads and no one else's, I don't see why not. Although there are some people who would just make threads and lock them right away.


Then it would take the same amount of time for it to be locked, since they would have to look over your request for locking it. I'm assuming that's what you mean.

  • 02.04.2012 9:34 AM PDT

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If I am not posting, then I am reading what you might have posted.

Or it could cost trust points to lock a thread causing critical damage to ones title....
Posted by: QuirkyNate

Posted by: MetalxTongue
Or there can be something that asks you why you want to lock it, and then it is sent to the Ninja's queue...?!
Posted by: QuirkyNate
As long as we could only lock our threads and no one else's, I don't see why not. Although there are some people who would just make threads and lock them right away.


Then it would take the same amount of time for it to be locked, since they would have to look over your request for locking it. I'm assuming that's what you mean.

  • 02.04.2012 9:35 AM PDT

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Posted by: MetalxTongue
Or it could cost trust points to lock a thread causing critical damage to ones title....
Posted by: QuirkyNate

Posted by: MetalxTongue
Or there can be something that asks you why you want to lock it, and then it is sent to the Ninja's queue...?!
Posted by: QuirkyNate
As long as we could only lock our threads and no one else's, I don't see why not. Although there are some people who would just make threads and lock them right away.


Then it would take the same amount of time for it to be locked, since they would have to look over your request for locking it. I'm assuming that's what you mean.


Not everyone cares about their title.

  • 02.04.2012 9:36 AM PDT
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Posted by: chotato
smart, interesting, seems out of place.


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No. If you want your thread locked, simply message a moderator.

  • 02.04.2012 9:37 AM PDT

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