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Subject: Should users be able to lock their own threads?

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Posted by: QuirkyNate

Posted by: MetalxTongue
Or it could cost trust points to lock a thread causing critical damage to ones title....
Posted by: QuirkyNate

Posted by: MetalxTongue
Or there can be something that asks you why you want to lock it, and then it is sent to the Ninja's queue...?!
Posted by: QuirkyNate
As long as we could only lock our threads and no one else's, I don't see why not. Although there are some people who would just make threads and lock them right away.


Then it would take the same amount of time for it to be locked, since they would have to look over your request for locking it. I'm assuming that's what you mean.


Not everyone cares about their title.

  • 02.04.2012 9:38 AM PDT

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Posted by: spartain ken 15
No, the thread belongs to the forum as soon as you press submit.

Then you should not be able post, since you gave away this post to the forums.

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Personally? No, with the mass number of users - paired with how many are either ignorant, biased, or crude - locked threads would become a common eye-sore. We don't exactly have the responsibility (as a whole or common portions) for us to be able to lock threads that we have created.

Threads would likely be locked because:
- A question was answered
- Didn't go the OP's way
- Just because

Posted by: coolmike699
I think we should be able to lock our threads. I can already just delete my OP and change the thread title to "please lock mods", why can't I just take care of it myself?

"But trolls can make a bunch of threads and then lock them!"

Isn't that what would have happened already?

"Once someone makes a thread, that thread belongs to the community!"

No it dosen't. I don't feel like getting into the nuances of copyright law that keeps this from being true, but it is. If the community wants to discuss something after the OP locks the thread, then someone else can start the discussion again.

To be fair, locking a thread you created - or even editing it out - may destroy a topic that others may find interesting or helpful.

  • 02.04.2012 9:41 AM PDT

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Posted by: True Underdog
In all honesty, I'm not. There was a thread a few weeks ago (for the life of me I can't even begin to recall what it was called and cannot find it) about that very subject of whether or not you should be able to eradicate your OP and ask for a ninja to lock the thread. This is something I was in favor of, and yet I (felt as if I) was opposed by the vast majority of the thread, all of which were using the "this belongs to the community now" excuse.

If I'm mistaken I really am sorry for appearing to be randomly inflammatory on the subject, but that's legitimate what I feel based on past experiences.

  • 02.04.2012 9:44 AM PDT

Posted by: QuirkyNate
Posted by: MetalxTongue
Or it could cost trust points to lock a thread causing critical damage to ones title....
Not everyone cares about their title.
This is why I think your trust rating should be used to unlock certain privileges. One of those privileges could be the ability to lock your own topic. Of course, since doing that could be detrimental to the community itself (because it's removing access to public discussion), the requirement for gaining that ability should be set pretty high (as any similar ability should).

  • 02.04.2012 8:21 PM PDT

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  • 02.04.2012 8:25 PM PDT

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  • 02.04.2012 8:26 PM PDT

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I am little more alive now.

I think that it should work like; there is a queue that shows you are able to gain the ability to lock a thread, and who sees this queue well it could be Webteam or Mods, and they then give the ability to that user...!? Sound right? Okay?
Posted by: dazarobbo
Posted by: QuirkyNate
Posted by: MetalxTongue
Or it could cost trust points to lock a thread causing critical damage to ones title....
Not everyone cares about their title.
This is why I think your trust rating should be used to unlock certain privileges. One of those privileges could be the ability to lock your own topic. Of course, since doing that could be detrimental to the community itself (because it's removing access to public discussion), the requirement for gaining that ability should be set pretty high (as any similar ability should).

  • 02.04.2012 8:27 PM PDT

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Posted by: dazarobbo
Posted by: QuirkyNate
Posted by: MetalxTongue
Or it could cost trust points to lock a thread causing critical damage to ones title....
Not everyone cares about their title.
This is why I think your trust rating should be used to unlock certain privileges. One of those privileges could be the ability to lock your own topic. Of course, since doing that could be detrimental to the community itself (because it's removing access to public discussion), the requirement for gaining that ability should be set pretty high (as any similar ability should).
Perhaps a point system? Where executing higher-level actions (such as locking your own thread or, even, moving it to a new forum due to accidental posting) would remove points that you've accumulated due to a long record of not being cited by the Forum Police?

Say a 6-month period of no warnings/bans is one point. And every 6-month period you go without a warning or a ban will continue to earn you said point as long as you, obviously, continued your streak of lawful behavior.

But, if you were given a warning/ban, you would then have to be a good citizen for a year before being put back onto the points system. (You get warned in January of 2012... if you're never warned again you get your next point June of 2013.)

Locking your own thread would cost 2 points. Moving it 3. Embedding an image would cost zero, but could only be done by people with 8 or more points in their...um...bank? Yes, bank.
Et cetera, et cetera.

Now, I understand that I'm getting into the area of "complicated metrics" that True Underdog was talking about but it's just something that came to mind.

[Edited on 02.04.2012 8:29 PM PST]

  • 02.04.2012 8:28 PM PDT


Posted by: True Underdog
Posted by: coolmike699
I think we should be able to lock our threads. I can already just delete my OP and change the thread title to "please lock mods", why can't I just take care of it myself?

"But trolls can make a bunch of threads and then lock them!"

Isn't that what would have happened already?


It gives us a chance to look over them. There are plenty of times where someone asks for the mods to lock a thread, tries to play the victim, but with a bit of looking around in the thread, one can see that they weren't exactly playing nice and at the very least can get a verbal warning to act right.


Of course, you can look over the thread once it's locked. And if the thread is locked, then the bad behavior is locked with it (which is what would have happened anyway).

  • 02.04.2012 8:31 PM PDT


Posted by: Rokit
To be fair, locking a thread you created - or even editing it out - may destroy a topic that others may find interesting or helpful.


Then they can start it up again.

  • 02.04.2012 8:32 PM PDT

Posted by: coolmike699

Posted by: Rokit
To be fair, locking a thread you created - or even editing it out - may destroy a topic that others may find interesting or helpful.


Then they can start it up again.
And fill up the Forums with repeat threads? Mikey please. ;)

  • 02.04.2012 8:34 PM PDT

Posted by: MetalxTongue
I am little more alive now.

I think that it should work like; there is a queue that shows you are able to gain the ability to lock a thread, and who sees this queue well it could be Webteam or Mods, and they then give the ability to that user...!? Sound right? Okay?
I think that would be far too much work considering how many people there are here. The abilities gained from your trust rating should be doled-out automatically when you reach the requirement for them.

Posted by: CrazzySnipe55As long as the point system could be affected by moderation.

Posted by: Lobster Fish 2
And fill up the Forums with repeat threads? Mikey please. ;)
Well it's not like that doesn't happen already.

[Edited on 02.04.2012 8:39 PM PST]

  • 02.04.2012 8:38 PM PDT

Posted by: dazarobbo
Posted by: Lobster Fish 2
And fill up the Forums with repeat threads? Mikey please. ;)
Well it's not like that doesn't happen already.
Point taken row-boat, point taken.

By the way, have you heard of the title system?

  • 02.04.2012 8:40 PM PDT

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What aboot the option to ban ourselves? It would achieve mostly the same purpose and be abused less(assuming we can't unban ourselves).

  • 02.04.2012 8:41 PM PDT

Posted by: Lobster Fish 2
By the way, have you heard of the title system?
?

  • 02.04.2012 8:45 PM PDT

Posted by: dazarobbo
Posted by: Lobster Fish 2
By the way, have you heard of the title system?
?
'Twas a reference to the multitude of the repeat "Title" threads that seem to pop up in this forum. I guess my Pop Bnet Culture is lacking :'(

  • 02.04.2012 8:46 PM PDT


Posted by: Lobster Fish 2
Posted by: coolmike699

Posted by: Rokit
To be fair, locking a thread you created - or even editing it out - may destroy a topic that others may find interesting or helpful.


Then they can start it up again.
And fill up the Forums with repeat threads? Mikey please. ;)


Of course, if someone locks their thread it will fall off the page. So after a little while it won't matter if there's a repeat thread.

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  • 02.04.2012 9:23 PM PDT

There should be a self-ban button, which cannot be undone once clicked. It would eliminate virtually all moderator work, and it would give people the chance to save a bit of honor. Some would argue that the merely curious would be punished severely, but there always has to be some collateral damage.

Anyway, on-topic, ss several people have said, the main idea is that once something passes out of your mind and onto the forum, it is public property and you can't retract it. As far as I'm aware, that's the way the internet has always worked, so think before you post and you'll be fine.

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Posted by: coolmike699
I think we should be able to lock our threads. I can already just delete my OP and change the thread title to "please lock mods", why can't I just take care of it myself?


Because doing that doesn't end the discussion. All it does is remove the thing that started it. The conversation can still continue without the OP or title.


No it dosen't. I don't feel like getting into the nuances of copyright law that keeps this from being true, but it is.

What? How does copyright law at all apply to the ownership of a thread? Sure, if you want to ignore the relegation of rights I'm sure you give to Bungie, you might have intellectual property rights to the ideas presented in the OP. But you, in absolutely no way, have any rights over the thread itself. You have no ownership of the thread beyond your own posts.

If the community wants to discuss something after the OP locks the thread, then someone else can start the discussion again.

Or you can just let the conversation continue. There's no reason to allow an OP to moderate their thread. After all, they're just a member. Just because they happened to have the first post (which may not even be related to the discussion at hand), they are granted the ability to discern when the thread deserves to be locked?

  • 02.04.2012 9:32 PM PDT

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Posted by: CrazzySnipe55

Posted by: dazarobbo
Posted by: QuirkyNate
Posted by: MetalxTongue
Or it could cost trust points to lock a thread causing critical damage to ones title....
Not everyone cares about their title.
This is why I think your trust rating should be used to unlock certain privileges. One of those privileges could be the ability to lock your own topic. Of course, since doing that could be detrimental to the community itself (because it's removing access to public discussion), the requirement for gaining that ability should be set pretty high (as any similar ability should).
Perhaps a point system? Where executing higher-level actions (such as locking your own thread or, even, moving it to a new forum due to accidental posting) would remove points that you've accumulated due to a long record of not being cited by the Forum Police?

Say a 6-month period of no warnings/bans is one point. And every 6-month period you go without a warning or a ban will continue to earn you said point as long as you, obviously, continued your streak of lawful behavior.

But, if you were given a warning/ban, you would then have to be a good citizen for a year before being put back onto the points system. (You get warned in January of 2012... if you're never warned again you get your next point June of 2013.)

Locking your own thread would cost 2 points. Moving it 3. Embedding an image would cost zero, but could only be done by people with 8 or more points in their...um...bank? Yes, bank.
Et cetera, et cetera.

Now, I understand that I'm getting into the area of "complicated metrics" that True Underdog was talking about but it's just something that came to mind.
No no, then people will boos their points and embed blue waffle. It was bad enough the first time that happened...

  • 02.04.2012 9:33 PM PDT

Spread the love...

I actually support this idea.

  • 02.04.2012 9:33 PM PDT
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Posted by: coolmike699
Posted by: Rokit
To be fair, locking a thread you created - or even editing it out - may destroy a topic that others may find interesting or helpful.

Then they can start it up again.

The point is that they shouldn't have to. If the topic - or general discussion - still holds potential value, what right is it of yours to lock the thread for any reason you like? Because you thought of making the it? That makes a hell-of-a-lot-ah cents.

It has its benefits, like any idea, but I really see no problem with how it is now. I would take editing everything out and PMing a Ninja over the general populous being able to lock their own threads any day. Even lower trust ratings than ninja's seems weird - understandable, but weird.

  • 02.04.2012 9:39 PM PDT

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No. People cannot be trusted, especially on the internet. It is also pointless, there is really no need for someone to lock their own thread if they post sensibly.

  • 02.04.2012 9:42 PM PDT

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