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Subject: The end of Halo

Wake me,....When you need me....

give em a chance


EDIT: OMG goat, haven't seen you in ages

[Edited on 02.04.2012 8:00 PM PST]

  • 02.04.2012 7:52 PM PDT

Too much complaining. I popped in Halo 3 just to test if the changes to Reach are so unadaptable.

Nothing changed.


I could still play H3 like i never left it to play Reach.

  • 02.04.2012 7:58 PM PDT

A competitive players main goal is to win.
A casuals main goal is to have fun regardless of whether that results in a win or loss.
It has nothing to do with individual skill or knowledge, it has to do with the reason you play.

I'm pretty skeptic about 343i:s Halo game. The title update hardly fixed anything, it did add Bleedthrough to the game (what should've been in Reach in the first place) but they did hardly anything to balance weapons w/ bleedthrough, not to mention nerf the grenades.


Halo 4 or whatever the next Halo will be is going to determine if I give up on whole series or not. Hopefully it won't be a huge dissapointment like Reach was.


Oh well, theres always Halo 3, even with bad networking it's still a sweet game. Nothing like H2, but close.

  • 02.05.2012 12:20 AM PDT

Welcome to the internet. Joy dies here.

I can understand cutting nameplates, although I don't see why they would need to. Killing the API service is a dick move though, and not offering rendering service doesn't make any sense at all. I mean, it's potentially a constant revenue stream.

It almost feels like 343 have been tasked with killing off any interest in Reach altogether. Their website is repulsive, their stat tracking is bland, slow, and shallow, the forums are garbage, and their PR person BS Angel is an aggravating twit.

Reach might not be as cleanly competitive as Halo 3, but it was a solid game with very few bugs, backed up with an awesome website. After March 31st, Reach will just be the mediocre second hand car 343 bought cheap to drive into the ground.

I wonder if we can get a decent underground community set up on XBC or something. Looks like it might be necessary at some point in the future, given the trend that's developing.

  • 02.05.2012 1:48 AM PDT

It's weird, they listen to the hardcore crowd about bloom, but they ditch the API?

I mean how much would it cost to maintain what is already there?

And you're right the rendering service is a good way to get people to buy more MS points than they need.


[Edited on 02.05.2012 2:01 AM PST]

  • 02.05.2012 1:56 AM PDT

Forgehub was cool with Halo 3. I almost never touched forging or custom games in reach like ever though. It just wasn't as fun as halo 3 customs. So I don't care much that it is going away or at least crippled.

As for rendering, no loss there. I've always captured my own gameplay in 720p HD for archiving purposes and for my youtube channel all for free and as much as I wanted once I had bought the hardware a long time ago. I have literally terabytes of external HDD space to contain whatever gameplay of any game (not just halo). If anything, this will give me the monopolizing on youtube being one of the few people left to have fresh Reach and Halo 3 gameplay after the weeks and months that the render system shuts down for good. And if 343 doesn't have a render system for halo 4 or on the release date / the beta (if there is one). Well I'll be rich in view count for that =)

As for stat tracking, I only really used bungie.net to track stats and while 343 will have watered down stat tracking oh well. Once Halo 4 comes out I bet they will have detailed stats for that.

All in all it won't bother that much when it all goes away since I didn't care much for reach anyways.

[Edited on 02.05.2012 2:46 AM PST]

  • 02.05.2012 2:23 AM PDT
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I'm listeni- Oh wait I don't give a -blam!- what you have to say.

Yep. Halo is nearing its fall.

Rip.

  • 02.05.2012 2:29 AM PDT

Hi.

You guys.

It's a website.

  • 02.05.2012 2:48 AM PDT
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I reject your reality and substitute my own


Posted by: A 3 Legged Goat

Reach isn't the only thing that's falling; Halo is about to go into a dark, dangerous hole, and I don't think Halo 4 is going to bring it out.







Good thing I left then otherwise id fall down there too


Battlefield 3 is awesome

inb4stoppostingaboutBF3


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  • 02.05.2012 6:30 AM PDT
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Hey, uh, if you like vs threads, then check out this little group right here, if you have the time. It's pretty fun, just hop right in.

Now what was that "<3 4 <3" crap that was being posted a few months back?

It was stupid back then, and it's stupid now.

I'm not going to completely give up on 343 yet, but all they've done so far is fail to impress me.

  • 02.05.2012 6:37 AM PDT
Subject: March 31st marks the dark ages of Halo

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dito

  • 02.05.2012 8:00 AM PDT

@spawn031

"So much of what we do is ephemeral and quickly forgotten, even by ourselves, so it's gratifying to have something you have done linger in people's memories." John Williams

No, I think we're just getting started.

  • 02.05.2012 8:02 AM PDT
Subject: The end of Halo

Well it's no surpise mlg is taking reach of the circuit. Looks like Halo might finally be over for me.

  • 02.05.2012 8:03 AM PDT

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Posted by: Maximus Decimus
Agreed. All the changes are good and add variety. Do we really want another Halo 3? Just running around with one gun and no armor abilities? It's good that 343 wants to try something new. Do we really want the same thing for three more games?


Posted by: AK FROST
Well it's no surpise mlg is taking reach of the circuit. Looks like Halo might finally be over for me.
Did they already confirm that?

  • 02.05.2012 8:34 AM PDT

Please don't hype for games...
They'll just fall short of your expectations and you'll complain for months.


Posted by: And Im Here Too
Now what was that "<3 4 <3" crap that was being posted a few months back?

It was stupid back then, and it's stupid now.

I'm not going to completely give up on 343 yet, but all they've done so far is fail to impress me.

Such the hyping cycle relapses again. I can't wait to see all the complainers on the 343i forums (if anyone uses the god-awful thing) one halo 4 comes out.

  • 02.05.2012 8:44 AM PDT

I love the TU and ZBNS MLG.
The game has become more hardcore, less random and much faster.
That's why I have faith in 343.


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  • 02.05.2012 9:07 AM PDT

Posted by: WhackyGordon
I can understand cutting nameplates, although I don't see why they would need to. Killing the API service is a dick move though, and not offering rendering service doesn't make any sense at all. I mean, it's potentially a constant revenue stream.

It almost feels like 343 have been tasked with killing off any interest in Reach altogether. Their website is repulsive, their stat tracking is bland, slow, and shallow, the forums are garbage, and their PR person BS Angel is an aggravating twit.

Reach might not be as cleanly competitive as Halo 3, but it was a solid game with very few bugs, backed up with an awesome website. After March 31st, Reach will just be the mediocre second hand car 343 bought cheap to drive into the ground.

I wonder if we can get a decent underground community set up on XBC or something. Looks like it might be necessary at some point in the future, given the trend that's developing.
Seriously? That's what keeps you interested in Reach? Yeah, I don't think so. I think you're just being a drama queen like all the forum's cool kids.

What's made Reach not as solid of a game? With Anniversary's better maps and TU settings, the game actually feels more solid to me.

Tell me why an API should be a priority to 343, not just for a broken game that they didn't even make in the first place, but for the overall good of Halo. Halo CE and Halo 2 didn't have community websites anyway connected to them and they're probably the most successful Halos. Do you even know how an API is made; how much resources and time it takes? I doubt it.

Personally, I couldn't care less about their website, their stat tracking, or their forums. All I care about is killing aliens or other players. That's what Halo's all about for me. If Reach is ruined for you because you don't like their website (boo hoo), or their stat tracking (cry me a river), then leave Reach and leave Halo. Good riddance. Go play Call of Duty and work your way back up to Halo.

  • 02.05.2012 9:29 AM PDT
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Posted by: Achronos
It isn't our shiznit anymore.

Posted by: Cavik Akavelle
Tell me why an API should be a priority to 343, not just for a broken game that they didn't even make in the first place, but for the overall good of Halo. Halo CE and Halo 2 didn't have community websites anyway connected to them and they're probably the most successful Halos. Do you even know how an API is made; how much resources and time it takes? I doubt it.

Personally, I couldn't care less about their website, their stat tracking, or their forums. All I care about is killing aliens or other players. That's what Halo's all about for me.
So because you personally find no interest in Halo community websites' stat tracking abilities, you want that privilege gone? I feel a bit embarrassed wearing the same avatar as you.

It's irrelevant if Halo CE and 2 didn't have API for stat tracking. However it is relevant that those games would have been much better with proper API. Honestly any game is much better with a more involved community, and API stat tracking helps encourage that. It's a great investment, and the benefits easily outweigh the resource costs.

If you want to be taken seriously in any argument like this, you need to consider how other people play games, and not just what you like doing.

  • 02.05.2012 9:40 AM PDT
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Posted by: SergeantxDeath
give em a chance
Posted by: spawn031
No, I think we're just getting started.
Bungie Day 7/7/11 marked the end of Bungie's support of Halo. The 'keys' to the franchise (allowing 343 complete control over all aspects of Halo) were then officially handed over on the 2nd August.

As of March 31st Bungie will have supported stats for a game they no longer manage for 9 months.

343i have been living off borrowed time. They have no excuse.

  • 02.05.2012 9:50 AM PDT

And so God called Moses to come forth but he came fifth and was therefore disqualified.

OP:

I agree. I wish Bungie were still here.

:'(

(It's Sunday(I'm feeling lazy), so I'm not going to write an essay on how bad 343 are.)

  • 02.05.2012 11:09 AM PDT

While 343 is doing a terrible job with Reach, I am still giving Halo 4 a chance. I hope them dissing Reach is all in preparation for Halo 4. Reach was a mess to begin with, and nohing could really "fix" it all the way. Even in interviews, 343 employees were never really said anything positive about Reach.

Recon helmet is still up in the air, and I am curious as to how 343 responds to it.

So far, about 90% of what 343 did with Reach is stupid. An entire playlist for one firefight map? Thats worse than what Bungie did with AA's. API removal? There goes the community that used that API.

In short, I hope their ignorance in Reach is compensated with a decent Halo 4.

  • 02.05.2012 2:13 PM PDT

Lol

The vast majority of players that play halo, don't even go to any website. It won't affect sales, it will affect the smaller communities.

  • 02.05.2012 2:26 PM PDT
Subject: March 31st marks the dark ages of Halo

chances are I don't care who you are or what you say.

uh oh...

  • 02.05.2012 2:35 PM PDT
Subject: The end of Halo

Spam is okay, as long as it is not excessive.
Retardation is frowned upon, but somewhat acceptable.

They're shutting down rendering?

Glad I bought a capture card...

  • 02.05.2012 3:46 PM PDT

Imho, there will job openings at 343i for this failure/apathy. Out of work? Get your resume together and send it to 343i.

  • 02.05.2012 4:31 PM PDT