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  • Poll [25 votes]: Who noticed these things?
Subject: i have made a shocking discovery
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Poll: Who noticed these things?  [closed]
Me:  40%
(10 Votes)
Not me:  12%
(3 Votes)
Him:  0%
(0 Votes)
Her:  0%
(0 Votes)
Them:  8%
(2 Votes)
It:  12%
(3 Votes)
Bungie:  16%
(4 Votes)
You:  12%
(3 Votes)
Total Votes: 25

After watching the trailer multiple times, I have come to a realization. A small one, but one that has gone unnoticed thus far. Layered under Cortana's voice under her first two lines are the bass tones of nothing other than...Gravemind. This leads me to conclude Cortana is transmitting her conversation/interrogation with Gravemind to John (it may also be an audio effect). This is complete speculation, with nothing to go on but very discreet tones. The statement "I have defied Gods and Demons," however, could very well be originally said by Gravemind. In fact, the whole conversation, except for the last line, could heave been Gravemind, with his speaking skill of prophets (religious, not Covenant). I cannot think of anything else about this that is remarkable. Listen for yourself, but in the second line, it is extremely hard to make out. Actually, the second line may have been Cortana speaking to John. Only Bungie knows. Actually, maybe they don't. Maybe no one knows what's going on or what's going to happen. Only time will tell. It seems highly unlikely Gravemind would call himself Cortana's shield or sword. After hearing that second line again, and really listening, I think it really IS Gravemind. I heard his voice throughtout the whole line, layered under Cortana's. Another speculation: Gravemind is helpong the humans...after all, he was probably once Forerunner, and may retain some of the Forerunner characteristics (mentally and psychologically, kinda like Jekyll and Hyde, switching between two identities from timw to time). Probably not. He may be tricking Cortana again, or just openly using her. Which brings me to another thought. At the end of Halo 2, Gravemind said "Now I shall talk, and YOU shall listen." Suggesting he may only revealing his secrets to Cortana (okay maybe not secrets). If he is, it is probably just a trick to use her and (oh no) escape Delta Halo. To make it to the Ark perhaps, and consume the sentient life therein. Bungie uses many biblical references, and I don't blame them. Cortana definitely says the third and fourth lines, if it's not just an audio effect of course. But the "effect" is definitely said by the voice actor of Gravemind. That much is clear. (Woo another speculation) When Cortana says "I know you..." she is probably referring to the information collected from the core of Installation 04. (didn't she save that onto a hard disk or something and then delete most of it though?) She may still retain much of the information about the flood, and the other installations, including Gravemind. In the multiplayer dscription of Relic, it said something about those structures being monuments to fallen Forerunner against the Flood. Of course that data would be on all of the installations core's. Anyhoo, she may know ALL about Gravemind; know it's a Forerunner turned Flood (because Relic is on Delta Halo). I'm getting bored of talking about Gravemind now, on to something short and new.

Like it suggests in the FAQ, that is NOT the MA5B Assault Rifle. It has a few slight changes. The trigger-grip has changed, there is a small cylinder on the underside of the front handle, the barrel is slightly longer, and it has a longer barrel. It coud very well be a semi-automatic, burst, or full-auto compatible (wrong word I know) rifle. Or maybe all 3, or just 2. We (the fans) have no way of knowing. That's all, but I think Cortana knows how the world's gonna end. (Obviously)

That is all.

  • 05.17.2006 1:58 PM PDT
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lol, i just realized i said it had a longer barrel twice.

  • 05.17.2006 1:59 PM PDT
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Im only pretty sure that there have been no less than 15672923012 posts on this topic.

  • 05.17.2006 2:00 PM PDT
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really? doh

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There needs to be an option for "everyone"

Good compilation of thoughts and all, but... wtlw.

  • 05.17.2006 2:01 PM PDT
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wtlw?

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welcome to last week.

I have no idea if it's a common acronym... but whatever.

  • 05.17.2006 2:03 PM PDT
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o lol. never heard that b4

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I think the mysterious artifact from the halo 3 teaser is the ark, which is used to switch on the rings.

  • 05.17.2006 2:04 PM PDT
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Posted by: Spartan Chris119
After watching the trailer multiple times, I have come to a realization. A small one, but one that has gone unnoticed thus far. Layered under Cortana's voice under her first two lines are the bass tones of nothing other than...Gravemind. This leads me to conclude Cortana is transmitting her conversation/interrogation with Gravemind to John (it may also be an audio effect). This is complete speculation, with nothing to go on but very discreet tones. The statement "I have defied Gods and Demons," however, could very well be originally said by Gravemind. In fact, the whole conversation, except for the last line, could heave been Gravemind, with his speaking skill of prophets (religious, not Covenant). I cannot think of anything else about this that is remarkable. Listen for yourself, but in the second line, it is extremely hard to make out. Actually, the second line may have been Cortana speaking to John. Only Bungie knows. Actually, maybe they don't. Maybe no one knows what's going on or what's going to happen. Only time will tell. It seems highly unlikely Gravemind would call himself Cortana's shield or sword. After hearing that second line again, and really listening, I think it really IS Gravemind. I heard his voice throughtout the whole line, layered under Cortana's. Another speculation: Gravemind is helpong the humans...after all, he was probably once Forerunner, and may retain some of the Forerunner characteristics (mentally and psychologically, kinda like Jekyll and Hyde, switching between two identities from timw to time). Probably not. He may be tricking Cortana again, or just openly using her. Which brings me to another thought. At the end of Halo 2, Gravemind said "Now I shall talk, and YOU shall listen." Suggesting he may only revealing his secrets to Cortana (okay maybe not secrets). If he is, it is probably just a trick to use her and (oh no) escape Delta Halo. To make it to the Ark perhaps, and consume the sentient life therein. Bungie uses many biblical references, and I don't blame them. Cortana definitely says the third and fourth lines, if it's not just an audio effect of course. But the "effect" is definitely said by the voice actor of Gravemind. That much is clear. (Woo another speculation) When Cortana says "I know you..." she is probably referring to the information collected from the core of Installation 04. (didn't she save that onto a hard disk or something and then delete most of it though?) She may still retain much of the information about the flood, and the other installations, including Gravemind. In the multiplayer dscription of Relic, it said something about those structures being monuments to fallen Forerunner against the Flood. Of course that data would be on all of the installations core's. Anyhoo, she may know ALL about Gravemind; know it's a Forerunner turned Flood (because Relic is on Delta Halo). I'm getting bored of talking about Gravemind now, on to something short and new.

Like it suggests in the FAQ, that is NOT the MA5B Assault Rifle. It has a few slight changes. The trigger-grip has changed, there is a small cylinder on the underside of the front handle, the barrel is slightly longer, and it has a longer barrel. It coud very well be a semi-automatic, burst, or full-auto compatible (wrong word I know) rifle. Or maybe all 3, or just 2. We (the fans) have no way of knowing. That's all, but I think Cortana knows how the world's gonna end. (Obviously)

That is all.

c'mon guys, he has a point. The words could be cortana's conversation. She knows the flood's past & future. It could make sense. It would also explain why she didn't address the chief directly.

  • 05.17.2006 2:05 PM PDT
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There should be an awnser for this poll called "Everyone". Nice job typing up what we already know.
But I do agree with all of this.

[Edited on 5/17/2006]

  • 05.17.2006 2:08 PM PDT
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bleh, i saw it for the first time yesterday, and i notcied the MA?B the first time, and the voice the second.

  • 05.17.2006 2:14 PM PDT
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funny how no one put him or her as an answer

  • 05.17.2006 2:15 PM PDT
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well, i guess it's not much of a 'discovery' if everyone else knew it huh? ah well, serves me right for missing E3 :P

  • 05.17.2006 5:14 PM PDT
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I think the gravemind has combined with cortana some how

  • 05.17.2006 5:19 PM PDT

Posted by: IVIetalhead
welcome to last week.

I have no idea if it's a common acronym... but whatever.


Last week? how about 1 second after the trailer release?

  • 05.17.2006 7:19 PM PDT
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Everyone has noticed it, and I'm afraid I'll have to lock the thread for bumping. If your thread dies, then that's the way it shall be. We don't revive dead pets all the time, do we?

'Cuz that'd be weird.
-TGP-

  • 05.17.2006 7:22 PM PDT