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An excerpt from my speculation thread that I found worth noting by itself, the prophet of truth's true intention for activating the rings. I make a very good point near the end concerning his possible reasons. Please read its entirety.

"He may know something more than just what he wants everyone to beleive. Perhaps he knows the true meaning of the rings and has found a way to use them to his/prophets advantage.

Think about this theory, perhaps the original prophets, who discovered the information of the Halos, also found a way to use the Halos to eliminate all there enemies and preserve only themselves as the one remaining species. This may have something to do with the Ark and the remnants of the forerunners, humanity. Now this secret would have been passed down through all the heirarchs, whilst they then promoted the idea that the rings would make all who helped them gods. They used this idea to then manipulate the elites, their long time enemies, to work for them, and do there bidding. Regret was a new prophet heirarch(see secret letter in conversations from around the universe) and did not know this secret that Truth and Mercy guarded. That's why he attempted to activate Delta Halo, and was almost stopped by Truth and Mercy, before the Masterchief came and did the job for them.

Know it was about this time that some of the elites began to realise what was going on after being told about the truth of the Halos and there purpose by 343 GS. "Our prophets are false! Open your eyes my brothers! They would use the faith of our forefathers to bring ruin to us all. The Great Journey is a..."
These few elites knew the true meaning of the Halo's and how the religion of the covenant was all false.

The Arbiter slowly discovers more and more of this watching his bretheren duties being replaced by the dumber Brutes, and being slaughtered by the flood in the Quarentine zone. He then realises the Elites are infact being wiped out for becoming savee of the true meanings of the Halo's, which obviously Truth and Mercy did not want them to find out. The Arbiter learns the truth about the Halos and what they do, coutesy of Gravemind and Masterchief, but does not truly beleive it until he sees all the destruction the Prophets and the Brutes have brought apon his race during the uprising. He then decides to take action and prevent Tartarus from activating the ring.

Now here comes the real suspicious part about all this. Why would Truth give the responsability of activating Delta Halo to Tartaurus, and not do it himself. If he did beleive the Halo's would make him a god, why wouldn't he stay and activate it himself? Why did he take the forerunner ship to Earth right after giving Tataurus the Index?

This is because Truth, and Mercy did, know something that we haven't seen yet about the Halos. Truth must know a way to survive the blast and it may have something to do with the Ark. Why else would Truth rush to Earth right after his moment of glory and the activation of Delta Halo. He must have been in the planing on doing something on Earth during the activation of the Halos, or else there would have been no reason to leave the ring and especially to jump to Earth. Also this raises the question, did he arrive at Earth before Tartaurus activated the ring, or was he planning on him failling and heading to Earth do do it himself.

Of course this could all be part of a ritual he beleives will make him a god, on Earth, but I feel that story line seems to simple for Bungie, and isn't really there style.

Again pure speculation based of the games and the books thus far, consider nothing entirly true."

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very interesting specultion. Highly unlikely, but hey, that's what the point is. You get a B

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Nice idea. I never thought of the fact that he left the ring when Tartarus was going to activate it. If he thought it would lead them on their Great Journey, he would have stayed. Instead he raced away on the Forerunner ship, which took away the power of High Charity leaving the rest behind as he raced to Earth.

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Highly unlikely you say, then why did Truth jump to Earth in the final moments of his glory. Why would he not stay for the activation of Halo. It is obvious there is something he needs to fofill on Earth. And knowing Bungie and how they make stories, it's not simply he beleives Halo will make him a god, that's to simple, he must know something we do not know yet about the Halos and more importantly the Ark.

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By unlikely, I mean it SEEMS like it won't happen, but everybody loves twists, Bungie included.

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There is also the symbolic meaning behind his name, it's pretty obvious now that he and Truth knew the real purpose of Halo. Why else would they so hastly remove the entire Elite race from the Covenant just over a few heretics. The reason they did this is the Elites are smart, and they would soon very quickly realise what has been going on for centuries.

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Very interesting speculation. Those could possibly be Truth's true intentions.

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Sound theory, hence his name "Truth" he knows it. Bungie gave the Prophets those names for a reason with them there are no coinkadinks, seriously. I don't think it sounds to simple for Bungie at all, it seems more hidden than you think, remember we've had a long time to try to put all of this together. This theory would make the Covies a complete Cult, where an influential leader promises them a better life and makes them all die for him. Good Call.

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You know. i posted this in new mombassa about 5 months ago. and no one believed me. it is also why truth, in the halo 2 special edition manual, knew that regret would die. I believe that he knows time, because maybe he found the crystal from reach. Which can bend time. And so he knew that Tartarus would fail.

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Whoa, why's he blacklisted. That was very interesting speculation. People get carried away with thoughts of other spartans, cortana's intentions, gravemind, and the flood, and they forget all about Truth. His intentions are probably the most mysterious of anyone.

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Blacklisted?

Why is that, I was wondering what he posted.. Was it that important or was it real info from halo 3? :P

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no. it was his speculation. he probably did something in another forum.

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He was basically saying that Truth may actually know the truth about the halos, and may have his own devious intentions, possibly to wipe everyone out except for those who will be at the ark. I don't remember it all, but he questioned why Truth would send Tartarus to activate the halos and begin the great journey instead of doing it himself. Why would Truth need to go somewhere else and let Tartarus do it? Anyone else remember anything of what he said?

Oh god I hope I don't get blacklisted for repeating what he said, lol...

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you won't If you DID hit home, all bungie would do is MAYBE delete your post and send you a message, but I doubt they would do that, even if the theory is right. Also, he probably flamed someone since all but his original post is gone.

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i think that truth wants to control the flood, and use it as a weapon, not activate the halos.

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He was basically saying that Truth may actually know the truth about the halos, and may have his own devious intentions, possibly to wipe everyone out except for those who will be at the ark. I don't remember it all, but he questioned why Truth would send Tartarus to activate the halos and begin the great journey instead of doing it himself. Why would Truth need to go somewhere else and let Tartarus do it? Anyone else remember anything of what he said?

Oh god I hope I don't get blacklisted for repeating what he said, lol...


it was because truth was on his way to earth.

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Here is the original post. Concerning the prophet of Truth and his intentions for activating the Halos. Important point near the end.


"He may know something more than just what he wants everyone to beleive. Perhaps he knows the true meaning of the rings and has found a way to use them to his/prophets advantage.

Think about this theory, perhaps the original prophets, who discovered the information of the Halos, also found a way to use the Halos to eliminate all there enemies and preserve only themselves as the one remaining species. This may have something to do with the Ark and the remnants of the forerunners, humanity. Now this secret would have been passed down through all the heirarchs, whilst they then promoted the idea that the rings would make all who helped them gods. They used this idea to then manipulate the elites, their long time enemies, to work for them, and do there bidding. Regret was a new prophet heirarch(see secret letter in conversations from around the universe) and did not know this secret that Truth and Mercy guarded. That's why he attempted to activate Delta Halo, and was almost stopped by Truth and Mercy, before the Masterchief came and did the job for them.

Know it was about this time that some of the elites began to realise what was going on after being told about the truth of the Halos and there purpose by 343 GS. "Our prophets are false! Open your eyes my brothers! They would use the faith of our forefathers to bring ruin to us all. The Great Journey is a..."
These few elites knew the true meaning of the Halo's and how the religion of the covenant was all false.

The Arbiter slowly discovers more and more of this watching his bretheren duties being replaced by the dumber Brutes, and being slaughtered by the flood in the Quarentine zone. He then realises the Elites are infact being wiped out for becoming savee of the true meanings of the Halo's, which obviously Truth and Mercy did not want them to find out. The Arbiter learns the truth about the Halos and what they do, coutesy of Gravemind and Masterchief, but does not truly beleive it until he sees all the destruction the Prophets and the Brutes have brought apon his race during the uprising. He then decides to take action and prevent Tartarus from activating the ring.

Now here comes the real suspicious part about all this. Why would Truth give the responsability of activating Delta Halo to Tartaurus, and not do it himself. If he did beleive the Halo's would make him a god, why wouldn't he stay and activate it himself? Why did he take the forerunner ship to Earth right after giving Tataurus the Index?

This is because Truth, and Mercy did, know something that we haven't seen yet about the Halos. Truth must know a way to survive the blast and it may have something to do with the Ark. Why else would Truth rush to Earth right after his moment of glory and the activation of Delta Halo. He must have been in the planing on doing something on Earth during the activation of the Halos, or else there would have been no reason to leave the ring and especially to jump to Earth. Also this raises the question, did he arrive at Earth before Tartaurus activated the ring, or was he planning on him failling and heading to Earth do do it himself.

Of course this could all be part of a ritual he beleives will make him a god, on Earth, but I feel that story line seems to simple for Bungie, and isn't really there style.

Again pure speculation based of the games and the books thus far, consider nothing entirly true."

Concerning the blacklisting, let's just say religion is a touchy subject, oh and Zagashi was never here.

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He was basically saying that Truth may actually know the truth about the halos, and may have his own devious intentions, possibly to wipe everyone out except for those who will be at the ark. I don't remember it all, but he questioned why Truth would send Tartarus to activate the halos and begin the great journey instead of doing it himself. Why would Truth need to go somewhere else and let Tartarus do it? Anyone else remember anything of what he said?

Oh god I hope I don't get blacklisted for repeating what he said, lol...


it was because truth was on his way to earth.

Yeah but why would Truth bother to go to Earth ("to finish what they started") if they planned on firing the halos and starting the Great Journey? Does it make a difference where they are when they're fired? Or did Truth know that the Halos are a weapon, that Earth is the Ark, and they wouldn't be killed if they went there?

[Edited on 5/17/2006]

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