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That wasn't a joke post. He was trying to offend people without a 100 bpr, because 100 obviously makes you good right?

  • 02.04.2012 9:35 AM PDT
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Posted by: Penguin Egg
That wasn't a joke post. He was trying to offend people without a 100 bpr, because 100 obviously makes you good right?


Read.

Posted by: Apocalypse
BPR isn't a good way to tell how good someone is because the way its calculated makes it really easy to get 100. In-fact if you don't have 100 BPR, you're probably not that good.

So the only way it would be reliable, is if someone doesn't have 100 then you know they're bad. If someone has 100, well it doesn't mean squat because you can still be really bad with 100 BPR.



PSR would be a better way to calculate how "good" someone is.

PSR = (((K+A)/D)*Win%)*120
The average player's PSR = 100


I should add, the only way to actually tell how good someone is, is by playing with them. (Hence the italicized "calculate" above).

[Edited on 02.04.2012 9:39 AM PST]

  • 02.04.2012 9:37 AM PDT

PSR = (((K+A)/D)*Win%)*120
The average player's PSR = 100


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Posted by: Penguin Egg
That wasn't a joke post. He was trying to offend people without a 100 bpr, because 100 obviously makes you good right?

Having a 100 doesn't make you good. There are tons of players with 100 BPRs that aren't good. So if bad players can get a 100, then not having one means you're worse than just bad.

  • 02.04.2012 9:39 AM PDT

Yes I did read that, and its what im trying to get at. BPR means nothing.

  • 02.04.2012 9:40 AM PDT


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Posted by: Penguin Egg
That wasn't a joke post. He was trying to offend people without a 100 bpr, because 100 obviously makes you good right?

Having a 100 doesn't make you good. There are tons of players with 100 BPRs that aren't good. So if bad players can get a 100, then not having one means you're worse than just bad.


Funny, i'd love to see how you worked that one out. BPR decreases due to betrayals/quitting. Therefore you're saying if someone with a 5.0 k/d, 3.0 win/loss betrays somebody or quits from a match, you are better than them, which obviously isn't the case.

  • 02.04.2012 9:45 AM PDT

PSR = (((K+A)/D)*Win%)*120
The average player's PSR = 100


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Posted by: Penguin Egg
Yes I did read that, and its what im trying to get at. BPR means nothing.

Yes and no. 100 means nothing. Less than 100 means you're bad.

  • 02.04.2012 9:45 AM PDT

PSR = (((K+A)/D)*Win%)*120
The average player's PSR = 100


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Posted by: Penguin Egg
BPR decreases due to betrayals/quitting. Therefore you're saying if someone with a 5.0 k/d, 3.0 win/loss betrays somebody or quits from a match, you are better than them, which obviously isn't the case.

Find someone with those stats that doesn't have a 100...

[Edited on 02.04.2012 9:48 AM PST]

  • 02.04.2012 9:47 AM PDT


Posted by: Bito922

Posted by: Penguin Egg
Yes I did read that, and its what im trying to get at. BPR means nothing.

Yes and no. 100 means nothing. Less than 100 means you're bad.

Wrong in so many ways.. Less than a 1.00 k/d means you're bad, less than a 1.00 win/loss makes you bad. Bloating about your 100 BPR makes you bad..

  • 02.04.2012 9:49 AM PDT

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Posted by: ICanHasRofl
All good players have a 100, but not all 100s are good players.

  • 02.04.2012 9:49 AM PDT
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Posted by: Achronos
It isn't our shiznit anymore.

Posted by: Bito922
Posted by: Penguin Egg
That wasn't a joke post. He was trying to offend people without a 100 bpr, because 100 obviously makes you good right?

Having a 100 doesn't make you good. There are tons of players with 100 BPRs that aren't good. So if bad players can get a 100, then not having one means you're worse than just bad.
Then that's a terrible system!

  • 02.04.2012 9:50 AM PDT


Posted by: Bito922

Posted by: Penguin Egg
BPR decreases due to betrayals/quitting. Therefore you're saying if someone with a 5.0 k/d, 3.0 win/loss betrays somebody or quits from a match, you are better than them, which obviously isn't the case.

Find someone with those stats that doesn't have a 100...


It was an example. Look at my stats and give a good reason to why mine isn't 100?

  • 02.04.2012 9:51 AM PDT
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Posted by: Penguin Egg
Look at my stats and give a good reason to why mine isn't 100?


Its already been said why......

  • 02.04.2012 9:52 AM PDT

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Posted by: Bito922
Posted by: Penguin Egg
That wasn't a joke post. He was trying to offend people without a 100 bpr, because 100 obviously makes you good right?

Having a 100 doesn't make you good. There are tons of players with 100 BPRs that aren't good. So if bad players can get a 100, then not having one means you're worse than just bad.
Then that's a terrible system!

No, it just means that there is a separation of skill even amongst 100s.

  • 02.04.2012 9:53 AM PDT

PSR = (((K+A)/D)*Win%)*120
The average player's PSR = 100


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Posted by: Penguin Egg

Posted by: Bito922

Posted by: Penguin Egg
BPR decreases due to betrayals/quitting. Therefore you're saying if someone with a 5.0 k/d, 3.0 win/loss betrays somebody or quits from a match, you are better than them, which obviously isn't the case.

Find someone with those stats that doesn't have a 100...


It was an example. Look at my stats and give a good reason to why mine isn't 100?

Can't right now because the stats are down, but if you actually only have a 53 then I doubt I'd need to dig very deep to explain why you aren't good.

  • 02.04.2012 9:53 AM PDT


Posted by: Apocalypse

Posted by: Penguin Egg
Look at my stats and give a good reason to why mine isn't 100?


Its already been said why......


Then please explain to this idiot, because I can't get it through his head.

  • 02.04.2012 9:53 AM PDT
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Posted by: Penguin Egg

Posted by: Apocalypse

Posted by: Penguin Egg
Look at my stats and give a good reason to why mine isn't 100?


Its already been said why......


Then please explain to this idiot, because I can't get it through his head.


You're the "idiot"... -.-

  • 02.04.2012 9:54 AM PDT



Can't right now because the stats are down, but if you actually only have a 53 then I doubt I'd need to dig very deep to explain why you aren't good.


Waypoint is working.. use that.

  • 02.04.2012 9:55 AM PDT

LOL? Because you made a formula that made sense, I understood it, but this guy doesn't?? How does that make me the idiot? My bpr is 53 ONLY because of the betrayals. I am not a bad player and I am not the idiot here.

  • 02.04.2012 9:56 AM PDT
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Posted by: Penguin Egg
LOL? Because you made a formula that made sense, I understood it, but this guy doesn't?? How does that make me the idiot?

My bpr is 53 ONLY because of the betrayals. I am not a bad player and I am not the idiot here.


The person you're calling the idiot is the one I got the formula from months ago.... I'm pretty sure he understands it, but you're the one thats failing to understand quite a bit ITT.


*sigh* and No....

[Edited on 02.04.2012 9:59 AM PST]

  • 02.04.2012 9:58 AM PDT


Posted by: Apocalypse

Posted by: Penguin Egg
LOL? Because you made a formula that made sense, I understood it, but this guy doesn't?? How does that make me the idiot? My bpr is 53 ONLY because of the betrayals. I am not a bad player and I am not the idiot here.


The person you're calling the idiot is the one I got the formula from months ago.... I'm pretty sure he understands it, but you're the one thats failing to understand quite a bit ITT.


Then he IS the idiot for even bringing up this conversation.

  • 02.04.2012 9:59 AM PDT

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Posted by: Penguin Egg
LOL? Because you made a formula that made sense, I understood it, but this guy doesn't?? How does that make me the idiot? My bpr is 53 ONLY because of the betrayals. I am not a bad player and I am not the idiot here.

You're saying you would have a BPR of 100 without the betrayals?

I highly doubt betrayals are that important. You seem to think that one betrayal can bring down BPR like 20 points.

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Posted by: Achronos
It isn't our shiznit anymore.

Posted by: WIIZZZAARD2
No, it just means that there is a separation of skill even amongst 100s.
Which is, you know... bad for a ranking system. If someone has a 50 or 100 or whatever the top rank is, you should know without a doubt that that person is "good". That's kind of the point of a functioning ranking system.

Are you saying it's good when the elite ranks are diluted with the presence of the unwashed masses?

  • 02.04.2012 10:00 AM PDT


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Posted by: Penguin Egg
LOL? Because you made a formula that made sense, I understood it, but this guy doesn't?? How does that make me the idiot? My bpr is 53 ONLY because of the betrayals. I am not a bad player and I am not the idiot here.

You're saying you would have a BPR of 100 without the betrayals?

I highly doubt betrayals are that important. You seem to think that one betrayal can bring down BPR like 20 points.


Here are my stats: K/d 1.23, Win/loss 1.04, Assists 6882. Tell me smart one, what do you calc my BPR to be?

  • 02.04.2012 10:02 AM PDT
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Posted by: Penguin Egg
Then he IS the idiot for even bringing up this conversation.


How? What he said was true. 100 BPR doesn't mean crap but if you can't get 100 you're probably not that good.


You took that really offensive or something.

Bad players hate being told they're bad and it appears you keep making excuses as to why you don't have 100.

If you really think BPR isn't "Fair" try PSR.

  • 02.04.2012 10:02 AM PDT

PSR = (((K+A)/D)*Win%)*120
The average player's PSR = 100


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Posted by: Penguin Egg

Can't right now because the stats are down, but if you actually only have a 53 then I doubt I'd need to dig very deep to explain why you aren't good.

Waypoint is working.. use that.

We can start with your competitive PSR being 63.8, when then averaage player is 100, and most good players are at least 200+.

And lol @ you calling me an idiot, and thinking that I don't understand my own formula...

[Edited on 02.04.2012 10:07 AM PST]

  • 02.04.2012 10:06 AM PDT