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Posted by: RC Clone
And I severely disagree on everything except vehicles.

Care to elaborate? I think a 3sk pistol is blatantly OP, the maps in H3 were mostly good. H2 BR had a small skill gap.

  • 02.04.2012 5:13 PM PDT
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Maybe the only change I would make to the Halo CE pistol would be changing it from a 3 shot to a 4 shot, but the AR and Plasma Rifle were much more viable weapons outside of 2 feet than they ever were in Halo 3. Plasma stun needs to be in to make plasma weapons worth using.

The grenades take a long time to explode so placement is extremely important.

Melee doesn't lunge so have to be more judicious in it's use.

Power ups respawn in a minute so they promote more map movement in order to keep the other team from using them to break your set up.

  • 02.04.2012 5:17 PM PDT


Posted by: RC Clone
Maybe the only change I would make to the Halo CE pistol would be changing it from a 3 shot to a 4 shot

Ok, you make good points. I especially agree with this. A 5 shot DMR/BR/utility weapon with more range, and a 4sk pistol is near perfect IMO.

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The bad things with Halo 3 weapon balance

The non hitscan BR can be a pain to use when the connection isn't great. The spread also can be annoying in some cases.

Beatdown AR does not mean the AR is balanced. It just makes it a club. Unfortunately the same is true for the Plasma Rifle, SMG, Spiker, Mauler, and in most cases the Plasma Pistol.

  • 02.04.2012 5:21 PM PDT

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I agree with OP.

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Posted by: A 3 Legged Goat
I agree with OP.

What. . .

  • 02.04.2012 5:22 PM PDT

I still love my H3 BR.. It had a skill gap. How about H3 BR with the dual wielding from H2?

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Posted by: Wumpa Warrior
I still love my H3 BR.. It had a skill gap. How about H3 BR with the dual wielding from H2?

I would rather have the hitscan ZB DMR than the Halo 3 BR.

Still want the Halo CE automatics. and plasma stun.

  • 02.04.2012 5:27 PM PDT

So many things to consider.. ZB DMR is ok as long as it doesn't wreck vehicles. Plasma stun is definitely good.

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Oh yeah definitely without the vehicle destroying capability.

Vehicle damage interaction should go back to a Halo 3 style.

  • 02.04.2012 5:35 PM PDT


Posted by: RC Clone
Oh yeah definitely without the vehicle destroying capability.

Vehicle damage interaction should go back to a Halo 3 style.

Exactly. H3 BTB was amazing besides the connection issues. Hitscan, using reach's superior netcode would be a huge improvement.

  • 02.04.2012 5:39 PM PDT

Are you kidding me? ZB hitscan DMR in BTB is total bullcockey.

I've only played 30 games or so of Halo 3, but I can say that the BR is heaps more balanced.

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Posted by: Ghostie117
Are you kidding me? ZB hitscan DMR in BTB is total bullcockey.

I've only played 30 games or so of Halo 3, but I can say that the BR is heaps more balanced.

Are you talking to me?

I don't like DMR killing vehicles or it's infinite range either.

The bullet should disappear outside of 50 feet.

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Posted by: A 3 Legged Goat
I agree with OP.

What. . .


I like Halo 3.

  • 02.04.2012 5:50 PM PDT

Was talking to you and mr. Wumpa Warrior.

Leading shots doesn't make the BR the god-weapon of the game, unlike in Reach. In H3, I actually used other weapons.

If you keep hitscan and ZB in, the DMR still dominates within 50 feet. And seems kinda bs :/ Bullets travel alot more than just 15 metres.

  • 02.04.2012 5:54 PM PDT

We now have run into the debate of Hitscan Weapon that works with crappy connection vs. the BR, which wasn't fun during laggy games.

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Posted by: Ghostie117
Was talking to you and mr. Wumpa Warrior.

Leading shots doesn't make the BR the god-weapon of the game, unlike in Reach. In H3, I actually used other weapons.

If you keep hitscan and ZB in, the DMR still dominates within 50 feet. And seems kinda bs :/ Bullets travel alot more than just 15 metres.

I'm not saying keep the ZB DMR and leave the rest of the sandbox alone.

I'm saying keep the ZB DMR and bring back the non-paper vehicles and useable automatic weapon of Halo CE. Also cap the max range of the DMR because they can go too far in Reach.

  • 02.04.2012 5:57 PM PDT
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It isn't our shiznit anymore.

Posted by: RC Clone
and Vehicles like Halo 3
That may be a bit OP. If I drive bad and run into a pack of enemies and get around cover soon enough (and wait for my/our shields to recharge) I don't like not being punished for making that mistake and driving away with essentially a new vehicle.

On the other hand I don't like vehicles to have a set timer (vehicle health not tied to player health) like in Reach where there is nothing I can do to prolong that life.

I wouldn't mind a system that is like Reach's vehicle system for the beginning 90% of the vehicle's life, then when the vehicle's health is at 10% the system reverts to Halo 3 where the vehicle won't blow up with one DMR shot while the occupants have full shields. The catch here is when that health gets to 10% all occupants start taking much more damage than if their vehicle was at 100% (rather than simply blowing up).

  • 02.04.2012 5:58 PM PDT

I hate the fact that 1 DMR shot can flip a flying warthog. Literally, 1 DMR shot can do this.

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Maybe the Halo 3 vehicles were too sturdy so maybe they could come back a little more vulnerable, as far as tanks go. I liked how the other vehicles fared.

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Posted by: Wumpa Warrior
I hate the fact that 1 DMR shot can flip a flying warthog. Literally, 1 DMR shot can do this.

That is a physics problem. That needs to go.

lol Hog physics

  • 02.04.2012 6:04 PM PDT

Posted by: RC Clone
I'm not saying keep the ZB DMR and leave the rest of the sandbox alone.

I'm saying keep the ZB DMR and bring back the non-paper vehicles and useable automatic weapon of Halo CE. Also cap the max range of the DMR because they can go too far in Reach.

I dunno... hitscan still seems kinda cheap to me :/ It should only be reserved for a weapon like the sniper. I guess if there were proper vehicles and auto weps, ZB hitscan DMR with finite range could work. IMO leading shots takes more skill, and hopefully the netcode of H4 is better, which means less lagfests.

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Posted by: Ghostie117
Posted by: RC Clone
I'm not saying keep the ZB DMR and leave the rest of the sandbox alone.

I'm saying keep the ZB DMR and bring back the non-paper vehicles and useable automatic weapon of Halo CE. Also cap the max range of the DMR because they can go too far in Reach.

I dunno... hitscan still seems kinda cheap to me :/ It should only be reserved for a weapon like the sniper. I guess if there were proper vehicles and auto weps, ZB hitscan DMR with finite range could work. IMO leading shots takes more skill, and hopefully the netcode of H4 is better, which means less lagfests.

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[Edited on 02.04.2012 6:10 PM PST]

  • 02.04.2012 6:10 PM PDT

lol

Agreed for the most part

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Posted by: Achronos
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Posted by: RC Clone

Posted by: Wumpa Warrior
I hate the fact that 1 DMR shot can flip a flying warthog. Literally, 1 DMR shot can do this.

That is a physics problem. That needs to go.

lol Hog physics
It's like doing the gyroscope ride at the amusement park. All day.

But seriously, I wouldn't mind certain Reach vehicle features like turret cooldown or the Banshee to keep its super fast flipping (just as long as there is cooldown in between flips).

  • 02.04.2012 6:18 PM PDT

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