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Subject: How Combat Evolved ruined Halo

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"So much of what we do is ephemeral and quickly forgotten, even by ourselves, so it's gratifying to have something you have done linger in people's memories." John Williams

How Combat Evolved ruined Halo.

First I will have you know that these words are not my own. I do agree with some key aspects that FinalPOSTMORTEM brings forth and I shall iterate some of my own.

Posted on 02/05/2012 by FinalPOSTMORTEM
Firstly, that title would best be rewritten as "how Combat Evolved Anniversary shifted the community's focus, causing them to ruin their own enjoyment of Halo" but that was just too long to include in a headline. Secondly, don't think for a moment that my faith in the Halo franchise isn't as strong as ever. This is not a cry out against my community, my franchise, or the game which I love and call home. It is merely an observation and a suggestion.

Although the move to Chicago has occupied a vast majority of my time in recent days and packing before that even prior still you could find me sitting in my room playing video games. However if you were to look at my screen to see what I was playing you would be surprised to find that I was not playing Halo, as tended to be the case in years past. Why is this?

If the Halo Weekly Bulletin is to be used as an example of the general interests of the Halo community, then I am dismayed to offer these reports on the Bulletins we have received for the past weeks. Since the launch of Halo Anniversary, not a single Bulletin has been published in over twelve weeks that hasn't, for the bulk of its content, contained vast amounts of information on title and matchmaking updates (excluding holidays, major events, the recently launched Office of Halo Intelligence, and that interview with Tim Dadabo). That's nearly three months of Halo Bulletins directed primarily at gameplay.

But why is this important, you ask?

Well, firstly because I was not initially fascinated by Halo because of its subtle variations on gameplay and miniscule elements effecting the larger whole. It is not what drew me in and kept me fascinated. And while multiplayer is a crucial part of the Halo experience for me just as much as it is for anyone else, it stands separate in my mind from the core of Halo and stems (as I believe it should with all games) from a well-crafted campaign. While gameplay (and therefore multiplayer) is the backbone of Halo, standing as a foundation for great fun and socialization, campaign is the heart at the center pumping blood down this majestic beast's veins. And in the end, has Halo ever strayed from its course so much that that extreme amount of enjoyment cannot be found whilst playing Halo with others? As Leviathan put it on HBO:

"Do the changes in the TU actually change the core of Halo? Is shooting a needler no longer fun? Hearing the boom of a Scorpion's canon? Have we become so desensitized to the magic of Halo that simple changes disturb us so much?"

But there is more to my discomfort than simple personal choices in what makes or breaks Halo, and this stems directly from the many Bulletins we've had over these last few months and, more importantly, how it has effected us as a community (and vice versa).

If one were to journey to the strange lands of Halo.Bungie.Org, they would typically find a place of like-minded individuals, eagerly discussing the latest additions to the Halo storyline, or sharing gameplay tactics and custom maps. But, since the release of Halo Anniversary, conversations have tended to lean away from these kind-hearted approaches to conversations about Halo, and have gone down the terrible road of gripes and criticism, leading to an unfamiliar territory that has lost much of its excitement and character. Just as with the Halo Weekly Bulletins, I've found myself spending less time giving a thorough readthrough and instead skimming, only to find more and more conversations on the topic of title updates and matchmaking. The Halo Bulletins, and the Halo Community, all shifting focus away from the positive, greater picture and towards the negative, smaller one.

And again the question why?

With the transition of Halo from the hands of Bungie to 343 Industries, there was obviously a lot of eagerness for the newly formed studio to prove their worth. Taking on a remake of the game that started Bungie's forray into the Halo universe was a great technical and metaphorical way to test the waters and gain their footing, just as Bungie had ten years ago. But in doing so, the company (and therefore fans of Halo as well) began to focus so heavily on the original game and what made it good. This seemingly lead to a reexamination of the current Halo experience in Reach, and how 343 Industries could prove their worth as stewards of multiplayer as well. And it is because of this recent fascination with the past that they began to over-analyze, and over-think what should be, at its core, a simple exercise in restraint. Bungie, in their time as stewards of Halo, never once bothered to look back and ask what could be done to reclaim what was. They only ever looked back to see what could be done better, and this is part of what makes them a great studio that constantly puts forth amazing new ideas. As mentioned above, Halo is Halo, and will continue to be as long as its core mechanics stay the same. Every new installment to the franchise has changed one element or another, whether vastly or in more subtle ways, and yet the series persists and continues to provide the same level of enjoyment from game to game. If 343 Industries could take to heart the lesson taught by Bungie, and focus less on the minute details of what fans loved about the past installments of Halo and more on what unique ideas they have to bring to the table, they would be better equipped to handle the franchise that we all love.

It is my hope that, as Halo 4 draws nearer, 343 Industries and the community will begin to publicly shift their focus away from the past and a longing for what was, and instead begin to focus more on what can be. We know that great things are in the works for Halo 4, and I have no doubt that what 343i is making will be amazing, new, and distinctly Halo in a fresh and exciting way. HBO, and the Halo Weekly Bulletin are direct expressions of the fascinations and focuses of both the fans and the creators, and I believe that in order to cultivate a relationship that is beneficial for both parties, it is important for all involved to shift their focus away from the old, and towards the new.

Does anyone remember those times when Bungie was never focused on what they have done in the past and are always striving forth for what's to come in the future? This is exactly what this article is talking about.

I feel that the current "community" of Halo - if it can be called that - has always felt that we need to move backwards in time to improve a game. Bungie added it's own iterations to each Halo game, but kept it to the same style. At the end of the day when you think about it, does it really matter all the matchmaking updates that 343 is currently doing to try to get Reach to be the "core" game that Halo CE was?

I always put my priorities in the campaign rather than the multiplayer, that is what draws the most attention into gaming for me. As mentioned in this article, nearly every updates for the Halo 343 bulletin has ben about Multiplayer and how get the fans excited about playing it.

I feel that over the years the community has developed into this unknown shape, and we're a mixed combination of old and new fans. We don't know what we want and 343 is trying to do their best to fit everyone's needs.

With the upcoming release of Halo 4, how will the community change even further? How can 343 expect to bring along many fans with them if we're always stuck in the past about how things "should have" been. I will admit I have been a Halo fan for a long time, but after reading this article - just reflect on how Bungie was with managing Halo and how this "shift" to 343 will change everything.

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I have to agree that they have to stop looking at the past... because this is a time where very few people can restore the classic stuff without depriving CE of it's luster. I'd rather play a game that doesn't try to be CE than a game that fails at being like CE (a la Reach).

Furthermore, this is Halo 4 meaning it's a sequel to H3. Now I'm not saying that nothing from Reach will be included. I'm saying stuff like fall damage, vehicle health, weak friendly AI, and soft physics (a la Reach physics) shouldn't exist in H4, although I'd prefer the return of shield bleedthrough for bullets and the absence of bloom as well.

And I actually want the DMR (or a similar gun like the H2 BR seen in the E3 demo) because after playing H3 and H2, I realize the BR has somewhat slow killing time. I find myself using the Carbine more often in both of those games.

Finally, fix the goddamn cp system. I hate getting cps when I don't want them and not getting them when I need them. Freaking linear gameplay!!! And I hate how cp revert revert by 5 times death doesn't always work. This has gone on for far too long. If anything, this is where 343 should consider CE. Several levels had areas that gave infinite amounts of cps and made AI collections, tricking, etc. much more convenient while not necessarily making them easier.

[Edited on 02.05.2012 6:41 PM PST]

  • 02.05.2012 6:34 PM PDT
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Posted by: path1k
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^This is why we can't have nice things... Why even reply if you're going to be like that? Seriously.

OT: If you like a game, you like it. You should carry on with it and be a positive part of that community. Do exactly as what was said about the HBO Community. Share stuff with people. Make videos. Play together. That's what a good community does. Sure you should have some focus on gameplay aspects like most of the community is doing at this time, but don't have the entire community focusing on that.

Now on the problem with people treating Combat Evolved as gold and proclaiming the new games need to be exactly like it:

It's not only Halo that has this sort of attitude with it. It's pretty much every community, regardless of subject, that feels this sort of way. The further back it goes the "better" something is. Most people just credit it to nostalgia, but many others can point out evidence to suggest otherwise.

I don't necessarily blame the Halo Community for the way they feel. I know I'm probably going to get flamed for saying this, but Halo: Combat Evolved had a host of problems that wasted a lot of potential. It wasn't at all what the developers really had in mind from the beginning and the multiplayer was really slapped together at the last second. Whether the multiplayer turned out great or not is debatable (I loved it) but it's undeniable that Halo: Combat Evolved's multiplayer was rushed. No one ever seems to mention that unless pulling it off as a positive story of Bungie's triumph with the game.

Over time you tend to forget the bad in games. All you can seem to remember is the good. I've ever seen people say that Halo: Combat Evolved's multiplayer had absolutely no aim assist whereas the campaign did. People tend to forget about maps like Chiron, Longest, Boarding Action, and Prisoner when thinking of the "epicness" of Halo: Combat Evolved's "perfect" multiplayer. (Makes me laugh each time I see someone blame Reach for Solitary being so bad.)

I can't wait to see what 343 Industries has in store with Halo 4. I'm looking very positively at this for hope of a new feel with a new developer in the Halo series. I'm also looking forward to Bungie bringing out something new. It's a real win/win situation in my opinion.

[Edited on 02.05.2012 7:42 PM PST]

  • 02.05.2012 7:34 PM PDT

I fail to see how anything in the OP "ruined" Halo. All you did was complain that they didn't jump right in and make a new game.

  • 02.05.2012 9:20 PM PDT

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I'm not even going to finish reading this, cause I agree with every word, Anniversary most certainly did something strange and -blam!- up to the Halo community and franchise, and I will never be able to word it better than you did here. And I don't even dislike HCEA, its just too different.

  • 02.25.2012 9:16 PM PDT

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You sound like you are IGN...

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  • 02.26.2012 9:06 AM PDT