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Posted by: IamShishka
When they are on HALO. The flood is the main enemy, both races fear the flood. Thus the enemy of my enemy is my friend. The Covenant is not the enemy when you are on Halo.


No...the Covenant weren't humans friends. If you remember you have to fight both Flood and Covenant. They were still enemies of humans.

  • 05.17.2006 11:22 PM PDT
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i dont want the elites to be allies. that would ruin the fun of the game, only getting to fight brutes, jackals and drones and having no grunts to kill. as said before, most of the elites still beleive in the great journey and want to be the prophets honour guard.
i think that there will be 3 armys on earth. brutes, elites and humans. they are all fighting each other. this way you dont have to kill ALL the enemys yourself, like the flood levels and the level gravemind. you can just hide while the enemys slaughter themselves then run in and clean up the stragglers.
i do think that you will have SOME elite allies though, the ones that the arbiter has convinced that the great journey is false. they will fight alongside the humans to stop the prophets.
jaust a thought though...

  • 05.17.2006 11:34 PM PDT
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You guys are forgetting something the covenent split up one half Brutes, Jackels, Drones and Prophets are the enimies the other side is in a tempory alliance with earth Elites, Grunts and Hunters

  • 05.17.2006 11:35 PM PDT

Well if you watched any vids in H2 you would hear cortana say that and uprising or sum -blam!- has started on high charity against the elites and brutes.

[Edited on 5/18/2006]

  • 05.18.2006 1:39 AM PDT
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They're not at war with humanity anymore. Thats why people say they're "friendly".

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why should we ally with the elites, think about it, if u were fighting an enemy who over the course of several years has killed, pillaged, raped and burn all u know to glass would u one day all of a sudden shake ands and be friends, NO

  • 05.18.2006 2:07 AM PDT
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ELITES REBELLIONS!!!!!! YES!!!!

  • 05.18.2006 2:20 AM PDT
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If the elites are able to speak english what prevents them from becoming allies?

Apperantly there is no language barrier between them and the humans they could resort to diplomacy and stuff, The Arbiter could convince the elites, grunts, jackals, hunters etc. that there is no divine beyond.

Personally id like the elites to be our enemys too.

  • 05.18.2006 8:35 AM PDT

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It'd take some doing, but if, say, 343 gave his explaination on a fleetwide broadcast, they might warm to the idea. Plus the fact that Truth had the Elites exterminated might help to change their minds.

  • 05.18.2006 8:38 AM PDT
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i think a few elites will be are friends like the arbiter and that white guy

  • 05.18.2006 8:53 AM PDT
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Posted by: Neverender
I don't see how people asume that they are our friends. They are still sworn enemies. They just are working on common ground to defeat a bigger enemy than eachother.


Agreed, the enemy of my enemy is my friend(well at least temporarily)...

  • 05.18.2006 9:02 AM PDT
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Posted by: HaloXenon
Posted by: ODST_SGT
"The Enemy of my Enemy, is my friend."


Does this mean that the Flood is our ally?
That phrase doesn't apply on Haloverse.

Covenant is our enemies, Covenant is enemy of itself, Flood is enemy of Covenant so this means we are Floods friends.


That would be awesome. Let them FucIcers deal with them stupid things now.

  • 05.18.2006 9:27 AM PDT

"There are those who said this day would never come. What are they to say now?" -Prophet of Truth (Halo 2)

Elites are going renegade in Halo 3, mark my words!

  • 05.18.2006 9:29 AM PDT

Maybe the secret ending that was a joke in Halo:CE is actually what was meant to happen in the story. Maybe at the end of Halo 3 we will actually be comrades with the Elites. People have put aside personal hate before to take out something much larger then what is between those two factions. After the Elites do this maybe they will respect and honor humans for their courage?

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People here seem to assume the Elites are a singular entity, a unified body like a country.

A dash of reason follows:

We must all understand that the council of elites has been eradicated and they are without leadership. They are also a deeply religious and driven people with strong ties to the Prophets and the worship of the Forerunners.

Not every Elite will immediately abandon their faith or their loyalties to the Prophets. It is clear by the fact that there even was a group of Heretics in Halo 2 that Elites can differ in their opinions from one another. To put it simply fanatics are often ignore blatant truths.

This also assumes that the Prophets don't exert control over whatever serves as Covenant Media. The prophets could have blamed the "Demon", the Master Chief, for the destruction of the council. The Elites would believe it. After all, the "Demon" did destroy a sacred ring. Also, word of the changing of the Honour Guard may not have spread to all the Elites. It is a big galaxy.

Friend, foe? What I believe is that there are a great many Elites across a grand expanse of the galaxy. Not all shall have heard the Arbiters rallying cry and that the Elites may do battle with one another as the Arbiter battled the Heretics.

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Ok this is what I know for shur...in the trailer a spartin gets buzzed by some Banshee's (they dont fire) and there is an assult carrier that ignores the spartin altogether. That flight of ships races to the thing in the ground, where it is being circuled be 2 other assult carriers. in the background you can see a ton of other covie fleet ships. that do nothing! When the device opens (actavates) the wing of banshee's runs away as well as the 2 circuling assult carriers and the one ignoreing the spratin. And In any halo I have ever played any thing flying over your head is doing one of to things 1. taking a potshot at you or 2. bringing you stuff.

  • 05.18.2006 10:01 AM PDT
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Posted by: cobina12
Why does everyone say that the elites are our friend there is the arbiter that is a friend to the sergeant and miranda that doesnt mean that every single elite is friendly too us. The only reason the elites were after the tautarus or however you spell it is because they were betrayed and had there honor guard taken away from them


Are you a racist? I bet you think this way about my people too don't you?

  • 05.18.2006 10:03 AM PDT

Go to your room!


...Well I'm glad that worked, because those would have been terrible last words.

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Posted by: cobina12
Why does everyone say that the elites are our friend there is the arbiter that is a friend to the sergeant and miranda that doesnt mean that every single elite is friendly too us. The only reason the elites were after the tautarus or however you spell it is because they were betrayed and had there honor guard taken away from them


Are you a racist? I bet you think this way about my people too don't you?


Look, all he's saying is that there definitely needs to be some segregation of our cultures!

  • 05.18.2006 10:08 AM PDT

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Posted by; ghostvirus
This apple is brown, and rotten. This orange on the other hand, is in relatively average shape. So the orange is definitely the preferable option.
----------You can't compare apples and oranges. You're so dumb.

Dude your an idiot the only elites left are the heritics (never were against humans) and the elites on halo serving under the arbiter and half jaw. Truth kicked the elites out of the covenant and told tarturus to kill them all. If you honestly believe there not are allies then you are ignorant. All the elites on high charity died by the brutes or flood and accordign to cortana the covie ships mid air were fighting each other and brutes won. So every elite on HC or the covie fleet died. Every elite or hunter in exsistence is allied with the humans you can believe what ever you want but your wrong. All the left over elites are in regrets ship and in the control room. If you don't believe me go play threw the game again tarturus him self says the prophet ordered him to eliminate all the elites.


P.S and the reason the elites didn't fire because it was impossible for them to see them. You know unlike halo in multiplayer when you hop into a vehicle you don't see your self in a 3d person view it stays in first person. If a player had been in it he would of seen master chief but not not realisticly. How ever because the banshees formed a defence postion around the phantom I can only guess some oen important is inside. Since Truth is likely still in the FS and there ain't no time to appoint a new prophet or general it is likely the arbiter or half jaw. How ever those cruisers problay belongs to Truth.

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  • 05.18.2006 10:32 AM PDT
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elites...
should never have spoken english
should never be playable characters
should never be near a human without trying to cut him, like mexicans

  • 05.18.2006 10:36 AM PDT

Posted by: Niall8r
Posted by: Agev Ecniv
Posted by: cobina12
Why does everyone say that the elites are our friend there is the arbiter that is a friend to the sergeant and miranda that doesnt mean that every single elite is friendly too us. The only reason the elites were after the tautarus or however you spell it is because they were betrayed and had there honor guard taken away from them


Are you a racist? I bet you think this way about my people too don't you?


Look, all he's saying is that there definitely needs to be some segregation of our cultures!


"Now calm down Skeeter he ain't hurting nobody."

  • 05.18.2006 10:42 AM PDT
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Can you please tell me about the 7th column.

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Posted by: My Liege
People here seem to assume the Elites are a singular entity, a unified body like a country.

A dash of reason follows:

We must all understand that the council of elites has been eradicated and they are without leadership. They are also a deeply religious and driven people with strong ties to the Prophets and the worship of the Forerunners.

Not every Elite will immediately abandon their faith or their loyalties to the Prophets. It is clear by the fact that there even was a group of Heretics in Halo 2 that Elites can differ in their opinions from one another. To put it simply fanatics are often ignore blatant truths.

This also assumes that the Prophets don't exert control over whatever serves as Covenant Media. The prophets could have blamed the "Demon", the Master Chief, for the destruction of the council. The Elites would believe it. After all, the "Demon" did destroy a sacred ring. Also, word of the changing of the Honour Guard may not have spread to all the Elites. It is a big galaxy.

Friend, foe? What I believe is that there are a great many Elites across a grand expanse of the galaxy. Not all shall have heard the Arbiters rallying cry and that the Elites may do battle with one another as the Arbiter battled the Heretics.


Nailed it on the head

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Posted by: Niall8r
Posted by: Agev Ecniv
Posted by: cobina12
Why does everyone say that the elites are our friend there is the arbiter that is a friend to the sergeant and miranda that doesnt mean that every single elite is friendly too us. The only reason the elites were after the tautarus or however you spell it is because they were betrayed and had there honor guard taken away from them


Are you a racist? I bet you think this way about my people too don't you?


Look, all he's saying is that there definitely needs to be some segregation of our cultures!



how did you get a racist comment out of that

  • 05.18.2006 7:42 PM PDT
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They will eventually have to team up with the humans again.

  • 05.24.2006 5:56 PM PDT

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