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Subject: Halo 3 Expectations: Bungie has a lot to make up for!
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This is just an observation, but it appears that Halo 3, campagn wise anyways, has a lot to make up for after the somewhat disappointment that the Halo 2 campagn was. Personally, I was expecting a lot more out of Halo 2's campagn after what I experienced in Halo CE and I certainly hope that Bungie wont focus so much on graphics and physics that the gameplay suffers as much as it did in Halo 2. Halo CE's campagn was one of the most ingenious and exciting campagns that has ever been produced. No matter how many times you played it, it never really got old, especially the very ending. Halo 2 was the complete opposite, especially the ending. Does any one else feel the same? Respond.

  • 05.17.2006 9:41 PM PDT
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The gameplay in Halo 2 was a huge improvement over CE. Not saying I liked the campaign better, but the gameplay definitely improved, imo.

  • 05.17.2006 9:43 PM PDT

Yep, i loved Halo 1's campaign. I was so hyped to play Halo 2's until Halo 2 was leaked a few weeks before launch, with the gamers saying that the campaign sucked. I played the campaign not expecting much anymore, and seriously, it felt like a chore trying to finish it.

  • 05.17.2006 9:45 PM PDT
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I loved Halo 2's campaign, and expecially loved the story. It was superb, in every way, although to short. Now, so as not to appear a mindless fanboy, I back that up by saying that Halo2's plot was an extension of Halo:CE's, just told on a larger, more encompassing fabric. I loved the view we saw of the Covenant side of the war, the intergalactic romps, and the speed at which it unfolded. As for gameplay, I foudn the level design eliminated the redunancy that was prevelant in Halo:CE's maps, and the weapons were more balanced and fun. AI was improved. In short, I think it exceeded it's predeccor in every way.
No, Bungie does not have to make up for anthying. They owe us nothing, even if Halo 2 stunk and was unplayable, they still owe us nothing. As a matter of principle, I find it very egotistical that you might feel compelled to claim a company owes you something, even though you have done nothing for them, and probably never will. And no, buying their product doesn't count. That was a choice you made, and you did it so you could enjoy something, not because you wanted to help the company. It's always that way with consumers and producers, a simple fact of life. It might not be pleasent, but Bungie would have every right to not even make Halo 3, let alone make it acording to how you want it.

  • 05.17.2006 9:48 PM PDT
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Posted by: Araquel
This is just an observation, but it appears that Halo 3, campagn wise anyways, has a lot to make up for after the somewhat disappointment that the Halo 2 campagn was. Personally, I was expecting a lot more out of Halo 2's campagn after what I experienced in Halo CE and I certainly hope that Bungie wont focus so much on graphics and physics that the gameplay suffers as much as it did in Halo 2. Halo CE's campagn was one of the most ingenious and exciting campagns that has ever been produced. No matter how many times you played it, it never really got old, especially the very ending. Halo 2 was the complete opposite, especially the ending. Does any one else feel the same? Respond.

I think you ned to stop -blam!-ing. Make a game better than Halo2, then -blam!-.

  • 05.17.2006 9:49 PM PDT
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I liked Halo 2s campaign better than Halo 1s. I almost never play the Halo 1 campaign any more.

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Exactly, it was a chore! It was the same thing over and over again. In Halo CE it seemed that there was always a twist or something new introduced that made the action more intense. It also seemed that the later levels of Halo 2 were all just long repeats of the same thing hapening in the levels, like the whole protect the scarab for -blam!- ever or go down the little river with a ghost and kill outpost after outpost after outpost.

  • 05.17.2006 9:50 PM PDT
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Why are "fans" of Bungie's work bashing Halo2? It was -blam!- amazing. Get over it. Halo3's going to be even more amazing and stop posting threads that bag on Halo2.

  • 05.17.2006 9:52 PM PDT

Posted by: Neverender
Why are "fans" of Bungie's work bashing Halo2? It was -blam!- amazing. Get over it. Halo3's going to be even more amazing and stop posting threads that bag on Halo2.

Dont get me wrong, i think the Halo story is the best in a game ever. Ive read and loved all the Halo novels as well. But even the reviews agree. Here is a quote from Gamespot.com:

"Despite a rather short campaign and a disappointing storyline, Halo 2 is an exceptional shooter that frequently delivers thrilling, memorable, and unique moments in its online, co-op, and single-player modes."

If Halo 2 wouldnt have had multiplayer, it would have been a terrible flop. The storyline is there, its just that it didnt play right in the gameplay

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  • 05.17.2006 9:56 PM PDT

Halo 3 multiplayer is frustrating.

They don't need to make up -blam!-!

  • 05.17.2006 9:59 PM PDT
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"Despite a rather short campaign and a disappointing storyline, Halo 2 is an exceptional shooter that frequently delivers thrilling, memorable, and unique moments in its online, co-op, and single-player modes."

If Halo 2 wouldnt have had multiplayer, it would have been a terrible flop. The storyline is there, its just that it didnt play right in the gameplay

I dissagree. I don't have Live, so I almost never play multiplayer, but yet even now that I own a 360 and have a shelf full of top notch games like GRAW, Oblivion, Splinter Cell, KOTOR, Indigo Prophecy, Half-Life 2, etc., the gmae I find myself most playing is Halo 2. And guess what: I only have the campaign. Call me crazy, call me a fanboy, but its true. Halo's campaign has proved itself to be spectacular, in the first, and then even more so in the second. I don't think Bungie needs to make up for anything, all they have to do is continue on the smae path of slef-improvemnt they've always been on, and it'll be fine.

  • 05.17.2006 10:04 PM PDT

you are the minority. If you go to any other forum, they will tell you that H2's campaign was a letdown. Because it was. Like i said, the storyline was amazing, its just that the gameplay was kind of bland and boring

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Posted by: Araquel
This is just an observation, but it appears that Halo 3, campagn wise anyways, has a lot to make up for after the somewhat disappointment that the Halo 2 campagn was. Personally, I was expecting a lot more out of Halo 2's campagn after what I experienced in Halo CE and I certainly hope that Bungie wont focus so much on graphics and physics that the gameplay suffers as much as it did in Halo 2. Halo CE's campagn was one of the most ingenious and exciting campagns that has ever been produced. No matter how many times you played it, it never really got old, especially the very ending. Halo 2 was the complete opposite, especially the ending. Does any one else feel the same? Respond.


I totally agree with you there, Halo CE was unbeatable and still is. Halo2 was a huge let down for me as it just didn't suck me in as the first game cause once i completed Halo2 i never realy touched single player again. The multiplayer gameplay was excellent though as thats all i felt Halo2 was good for.
Halo CE was awesome as i couldn't put it down, played the levels like a hundred times and never got board with them, and the story, my eyes were glue. The size of the levels and settings were massive, the sence of war was awesome.
To me Halo CE still rules the nest while Halo2, was a little bit dissapointing.
( rack of fanboys and wannabies, my thoughts)

Halo3 Teaser Trailer was well done, excitment ran throu my vains again and i realy hope that they do alot better with this one, and by the judge of the trailer all might be good.
x me fingers :)

  • 05.17.2006 10:14 PM PDT
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Posted by: Ckrpoint
you are the minority. If you go to any other forum, they will tell you that H2's campaign was a letdown. Because it was. Like i said, the storyline was amazing, its just that the gameplay was kind of bland and boring

If I am a minority, then so be it: I am a happy one. I will not take my impresions from what I have read in forums. I am far to statistical to do that, and would not base my opinion on so unrandom a sample. However, to each his own. I say that I enjoyed Halo 2, but that does not neccessitate your enjoyment of the same.
My main contention is not with the worth of the aformentioned game, but in the idea that Bungie owes us anything. I retain my original position, that no matter how pathetic Halo 2 might have been, that does not make us, the general consumer, entightled to anything. We bought Halo 2 for what it was, be it good or bad. That was our choice, and had nothing to do with Bungie.

  • 05.17.2006 10:16 PM PDT
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Posted by: Ckrpoint
you are the minority. If you go to any other forum, they will tell you that H2's campaign was a letdown. Because it was. Like i said, the storyline was amazing, its just that the gameplay was kind of bland and boring


Exactly, The only reason I played halo 2 is because i thought that campaign was going to keep going on and then improve and have a great ending, to my disapointment I played, found it boring, with a quick campaign, and a cliff hanger.
The only reason i still use Halo 2 is because of online multiplayer and even not online it's fun on LAN or even 4 player, because it is a great game, just not with a great plot like Halo CE.

  • 05.17.2006 10:20 PM PDT