- crumpster212
- |
- Noble Heroic Member
Posted by: ROBERTO jh
Posted by: crumpster212
Posted by: crumpster212
Posted by: M94 Mushroom Man
Human dominance.[/quote]Not so dominant in their universe...[/quote]
At the current time, yes they were. The Covenant were on the verge of collapse (if they hadn't collapsed already). The Elites were the only thing standing in the way of Human dominance. So, ONI decides to weaken the Elites.[/quote]
I don't understand why people are having a hard to understanding this.
Neither do I Dave.Wouldnt it be a better idea for them to ally? i mean supper strong lizard people as your allies would pretty much discourage anyone from messing with you? And dosnt Thel genuinely want to ally, or at least make peace with humanity?
They were waging a genocidal campaign against us for 30 years, and only joined us almost completely out of necessity. Not bashing you specifically, but the people who (still) fully expected it all to go back to sunshine and roses with Elites and humans working together and trusting each other fully after butchering each other for so long might as well go back to watching My Little Pony for all the realism involved in such a story.
Case in point:
Posted by: Gottalovec4
Because Karen Traviss is a -blam!- writer and decided to create drama where it wasn't needed.
Essentially, for some reason the Vice Admiral wants a civil war in the Elite race to weaken them so humanity can finish them off.
Despite the fact that the UNSC has less than 5 ships in it's EDF, and the population of Earth has decreased to millions. And the fact that for all she knew the Spartans were either dead or trapped in Onyx.
AND the fact that the Arbiter and his men personally fought along side the greatest hero in human history: Spartan 117.
Don't look too deeply into the story of Glasslands.
Specifically:
Posted by: Gottalovec4
Essentially, for some reason the Vice Admiral wants a civil war in the Elite race to weaken them so humanity can finish them off.
We are not trying to finish them of, we are trying to weaken them politically, and by consequence, militarily so they won't be a threat. Instigating a black ops assasination of a diplomat is far different then finishing them off.
@Dave: I agree whole heartedly. I was more surprised at how people refuse to understand the sides then I was reading any fiction by Greg Bear.I do understand their viewpoints, im not saying they have to walking arm in arm kind of allis, but at least have some sort of system worked out where they dont go onto another genocidal war. I mean its not going to be so great for either of them if it happens.
[Edited on 02.08.2012 7:10 AM PST]