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Subject: Forerunners: What Really Happened?
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So, we all know that the Forerunners are all dead because they activated halo, and thats why they aren't characters in the games. But where is all their stuff? Obviously, the Forerunners had to fight the Flood at some point, so where are all of the cool-looking Forerunner tanks or other wartime vehicles? Where are the guns dropped where they fell once the rings were activated? Sure, the Covenant has gone through all of the levels and more than likely grabbed it all, but it seems a bit odd that nothing other than Forerunner architechture is seen in the games.

Where did the Forerunners live? If they lived on the Rings, there would be far more structures on the Rings, things like homes. Other than the strange "Beacon Towers" in Halo 1, all of the buildings seem to have some sort of military use. In other word, it lokks more like a military instalation than like the domestic home of some being.

About the rings themselves, my question can be sumed up to just one word, "Why?" But I think I need to clarify a bit so: Why are the rings so complicated with whole ecosystems and an atmosphere? Is it for some reason neccesary? Why couldn't the Rings just be a large metal ring that's a big gun of sorts? The Forerunners called the rings "Fortress Worlds," does this mean that the Flood came to the rings? and if so, how?

And then there's the Flood... The Flood is interesting, it seems almost like the Forerunners were breeding the Flood. In Halo 1, the Flood Infection Forms were sometimes found in large glass containers with two levels and control panels by it, almost as though the Flood were being held in captivity and were being studied. In Halo 2, the Flood were first encountered in an area that had similar glass containers (their remains at least...), and later found in small metal cases that were present in racks on the walls with an arm that moved them from spot to spot.

My theory on the last question I asked is that the Forerunners created the Flood, perhaps in an attempt to make a super-human. The rings were then made in case the Flood was able to break loose or somehow take over the ring. The rings were made so intricately so that the landscape might somehow slow the Flood down. The rings were activated and the Flood destroyed anything they could, meaning things like Forerunner tanks and the like were destroyed. The theme of humans attempting to speed up evolution and having the process go horribly wrong is a common theme in science fiction, whick if you take away the Xbox controller thats exactly what Halo is: A very well-written sci-fi movie.

Now, discuss, be merry, and multiply!

  • 05.18.2006 12:32 PM PDT
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Interesting.

  • 05.18.2006 12:35 PM PDT
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I don't have much to say in the way of this theory's many questions, but I will bring up that somehow the Covies have come to refer to the activation of the Ark as "The Great Journey". Perhaps the reason the architecture is the only remnants is due in part to the Foreunners surviving the activation and ending up in another place/time. That would explain why they took all of their technology with them...just a thought.

  • 05.18.2006 12:37 PM PDT
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Remember that the Covenant also refer to things as "Sacred Rings," "The Icon," And the Forerunners as "Our Lords." I really dont think that they're too credible, especially when 343 Guilty Spark said in Halo 1 that the rings kill everything in 2.5 galactic radii, (However you spell that...) everything with sufficient biomass to sustain hte Flood, that is. So I think that the rings emit a wave of death, so to speak, and the Covenant misinterpreted it as being able to "ride" this wave.

On a side note, what is a Covenant Prophet? Could they be very uneducated Forerunners that the ring's activation somehow missed, or are they just stupid aliens with a floaty chair and a fancy hat? :)

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  • 05.18.2006 12:45 PM PDT
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I agreed with what you're saying too, but given the crystal from the books...who knows what the Forerunner were capable of?

  • 05.18.2006 12:47 PM PDT
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True, but what is the crystal? I think it is a 4-dimentional object that therefore warps the fabric of space-time, which is why the Shaw-fugikawa engines wouldn't work right.

And that crystal has to have some use. Any ideas?

  • 05.18.2006 12:52 PM PDT
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*Hides face in shame* I'm actually just reading through First Strike right now. Maybe I'll have some theories after I finish it tonight. :-P

  • 05.18.2006 12:53 PM PDT
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Oh, sorry about nearly destroying the book for you... But did you notice how the odd swirling patterns on the walls activated when one of the Spartans cut himself on it? I think that this could be proof that humans are Forerunners because the wall stuff activated when it came into contact with HUMAN blood.

  • 05.18.2006 12:57 PM PDT
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That is true. All I know is that given Bungie's track record, the answer to all of these questions will be shocking. (I hope.)

  • 05.18.2006 12:59 PM PDT

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hmmm randomm thought came in and hear me out, mayb the forrunners have taken the great journey?!!? maybe they have ascended to a higher plain of existence and the human perseption is after life?!?

and to answer the question, i bet the sentinels did all the fighting, but i wonder wot happened to their clothing and objects ??? :S

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  • 05.18.2006 1:02 PM PDT
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I believe that the forerunners were humans and that some of them are possibly still alive...sleeping in the Ark (a double meaning type thing for those familar with the two different Arks from the Bible). The is why 343 and 2401 refer to ALL humans as reclaimers. 343 also says when he stops cortana's countdown that human history is "our lost time". I've been saying it since the first Halo...Humans=Forerunners.

  • 05.18.2006 1:05 PM PDT
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But 343 said, "The Sentinels can only effectively combat the Flood for a limited time." This shows that it is highly unlikely that the Sentinels could have done all of the fighting.

  • 05.18.2006 1:09 PM PDT

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But 343 said, "The Sentinels can only effectively combat the Flood for a limited time." This shows that it is highly unlikely that the Sentinels could have done all of the fighting.


no he only meant tht for that specific time, because the flood were overrunning them

  • 05.18.2006 1:22 PM PDT
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Good theory good thinking. My theory is a bit different. Far-fetched, yes. Possible? mmm.....maybe.

Forerunner Theory
http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=6996028

  • 05.19.2006 12:22 AM PDT
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Halo Firing=Forerunner Death. 343 GS said so, and probably saw it happen. As for clothes and weapons, they might have decayed over 100,000 years.

  • 05.19.2006 12:30 AM PDT