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Subject: Halo Reach TU Rumble pit
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Posted by: RawrrrRaptorrr
Spartan 2 vs Spartan 3. Are you dumb or just not paying any attention?

Story elements should not be used to justify bad gameplay changes.

  • 02.26.2012 12:04 PM PDT

I don't need to think of playing that to get kill death up...in which is a way that he cant even play the game for the game.....further validating that hes not worth a damn in this game.

  • 02.26.2012 12:04 PM PDT
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Posted by: HD PVR
ZBNS is the only correct way to play this game.

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  • 02.26.2012 12:05 PM PDT
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Posted by: Horse Repairman
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Posted by: xxReApEr130xx
I don't need to think of playing that to get kill death up...in which is a way that he cant even play the game for the game.....further validating that hes not worth a damn in this game.

I would rather have him on my team than you.

That's all that matters.

  • 02.26.2012 12:06 PM PDT

Because he plays for his own accord and not for the team? Good call.

  • 02.26.2012 12:07 PM PDT

The game was based off the books. If it wasn't for the books, there would be no game. More importantly, it's not bad gameplay. We've already covered that one of the "good" kids in the forum ups his k/d on btb. Plus every point that has come up has been a strong, armored spartan shouldn't have rise. I'm pointing out the flaw in that logic.

  • 02.26.2012 12:07 PM PDT

Posted by: xxReApEr130xx
After further looking into stats for the inheritor, he plays big team objective type games 90% of the time...nice way to get your kill death up bad kid.
1. I don't give a -blam!- about my K/D, if it's above 1, atleast it means I can contribute to my team.
2. I only search BTB in a team, randoms on other team dashboard, this turns Slayer games into -blam!- hide and seek matches. We can end the game if it's objective if there is one person who is like OMG CREDITS GOTTA STAY IN THE GAMEZ.
3. What is more enjoyable? Playing a 3 minute game of CTF or a 10+ minute game of CTF? I've played with good parties, we could end the game in minutes, we don't because that's not very fun. More time would be spent searching then playing.

  • 02.26.2012 12:08 PM PDT
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Posted by: xxReApEr130xx
Because he plays for his own accord and not for the team? Good call.

I didn't realize there was some shadow version of this game where it was easy to get objective in the other teams base while they are all alive.

  • 02.26.2012 12:08 PM PDT

It's called intelligence and strategy, get some.

  • 02.26.2012 12:09 PM PDT
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Posted by: RawrrrRaptorrr
Plus every point that has come up has been a strong, armored spartan shouldn't have rise.

bloom != rise

Rise simulates recoil, while bloom is completely random. In the hands of an experienced shooter, recoil can be accounted for. When your gun rises up (because of recoil), the bullets' trajectory isn't random - it's still going to go where the gun is pointed.

  • 02.26.2012 12:12 PM PDT

Bloom compensates for movement of the rifle. In the hands of an experienced shooter, it can easily be accounted for. I've seen many people shoot it accurately over and over. Why can't you? Either my friends are lucky or you're not as PRO as you think you are.

  • 02.26.2012 12:14 PM PDT
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Posted by: xxReApEr130xx
It's called intelligence and strategy, get some.

That strategy is mostly just killing them so they can't be a threat. He is doing that.

  • 02.26.2012 12:16 PM PDT

The funny thing about Bloom is that it doesn't even work.

I can just keep hitting the trigger and killing people who pace because I was able to put out more shots.

  • 02.26.2012 12:17 PM PDT

That's the point, he isn't getting the objective, all he is doing is sitting in a vehicle or in the back while the other team is defending....not strategic....just being a bad kid.

  • 02.26.2012 12:17 PM PDT

If bloom is so bad and not really working, what is the huge point of having TU?

  • 02.26.2012 12:18 PM PDT

Hey Boom, it can't be as "random and inaccurate" as you guys think it is if you can pull off that -blam!-. Please explain your problem with bloom again. Less hypocrisy this time please!

  • 02.26.2012 12:19 PM PDT
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Posted by: RawrrrRaptorrr
Bloom compensates for movement of the rifle. In the hands of an experienced shooter, it can easily be accounted for. I've seen many people shoot it accurately over and over. Why can't you? Either my friends are lucky or you're not as PRO as you think you are.

Bloom compensates for the movement of the rifle in a random way. The argument is not that it can't be used accurately, because it obviously can. The argument is that bloom is not a good substitute for recoil/rise. The reason so many people like the post-TU settings is because it separates the bad players from the good players more than before.

Posted by: xxReApEr130xx
If bloom is so bad and not really working, what is the huge point of having TU?

What? That's one of the many reasons FOR the TU. 343i acknowledged bloom was/is broken, so they tried to fix it by reducing it.

[Edited on 02.26.2012 12:23 PM PST]

  • 02.26.2012 12:20 PM PDT
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Posted by: xxReApEr130xx
That's the point, he isn't getting the objective, all he is doing is sitting in a vehicle or in the back while the other team is defending....not strategic....just being a bad kid.

Keeping the other team in the respawn screen helps me pull the flag. If you don't want someone on your team doing this then you're an idiot.

Which you have already shown with the listening this thread.

  • 02.26.2012 12:22 PM PDT

Posted by: xxReApEr130xx
That's the point, he isn't getting the objective, all he is doing is sitting in a vehicle or in the back while the other team is defending....not strategic....just being a bad kid.
I don't always go for the objective. I usually play with people who will ruffgonja the flag or bomb, going -4 or more for 2+ caps, I just kill to make their job easier. You aren't going to get the flag out of the enemies base if they're alive and guarding it, if you spawn kill them, it'll make it much easier.

Posted by: xxReApEr130xx
If bloom is so bad and not really working, what is the huge point of having TU?
85% Bloom removes less randomness. Zero Bloom is miles better than TU, I don't play either ZB Slayer or MLG because the movement speed doesn't work with ZB and I suck at MLG.

[Edited on 02.26.2012 12:26 PM PST]

  • 02.26.2012 12:23 PM PDT

For starters, TU isn't just affecting bloom. In reality, it's leveling the playing field for bad players to do better. I know that you're 'mlg' and all, so you don't see a lot of the update anyways considering your game type. More importantly, if you quickly off shots, you'll become more inaccurate than taking the millisecond to re-aim between. Armor aside, there's still a person that is shooting and that needs to be considered (sci fi or not).

  • 02.26.2012 12:25 PM PDT
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He's not trolling.


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  • 02.26.2012 12:26 PM PDT
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Posted by: Horse Repairman
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Posted by: RawrrrRaptorrr
For starters, TU isn't just affecting bloom. In reality, it's leveling the playing field for bad players to do better. I know that you're 'mlg' and all, so you don't see a lot of the update anyways considering your game type. More importantly, if you quickly off shots, you'll become more inaccurate than taking the millisecond to re-aim between. Armor aside, there's still a person that is shooting and that needs to be considered (sci fi or not).

Bad players still can't aim or move around the map intelligently.

This is definitely not helping them.

  • 02.26.2012 12:28 PM PDT
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Adapt.

  • 02.26.2012 12:29 PM PDT
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Posted by: RawrrrRaptorrr
I know that you're 'mlg' and all, so you don't see a lot of the update anyways considering your game type.

I don't know if that's aimed at me, but I play more than just MLG.
More importantly, if you quickly off shots, you'll become more inaccurate than taking the millisecond to re-aim between. Armor aside, there's still a person that is shooting and that needs to be considered (sci fi or not).
I'm not arguing with that. I'm just saying that bloom, especially at its default state, is not a good way to simulate recoil.

  • 02.26.2012 12:29 PM PDT

Posted by: Apocalypse
Adapt.

  • 02.26.2012 12:29 PM PDT