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Subject: A fond but bitter farewell to Halo 3 and Bungie.

When Combat Evolved came into my life, I knew I was hooked. It made whooping everything on an alien death machine look easy and awesome, and they throw in The Flood? I was amazed. When Halo 2 dropped, I wasn't expecting it to live up to it's hype. IT DID WAY MORE THAN THAT! I knew they couldn't top Halo 2. Halo 3 looked like it was going to be greater than anything the world had ever seen. AND.IT.WAS. Halo 3 will always be my second favorite game of all time. I will BRAG to my grandchildren of all the people I met, All the games I won and lost, and how important this game, nay, This Epic Trilogy, will always be to me and all the people who grew up playing countless games of Team Slayer, SWAT, MLG, etc. you get it. So, when Halo Reach was expected, I thought that it was going to be AWESOME. However, after weeks of trying to get into Reach, It just didn't compare in my opinion. Trust me I tried. I decided then I was going to turn my back on Bungie. And so I did. Hopefully, their next titles will astound the masses, so I can come back to one of the greatest communities I've ever belonged too. I would like to extend this very fond goodbye to Halo's 1, 2, and 3 (i still play some H3 every now and then), and farewell to you , John Spartan 117,and you Cortana, and definitely you Sergeant Johnson, and finally, Goodbye Bungie, I see you as an old friend and I sincerely wish you the best of luck on your future games and your Quest for World Domination. Sincerely, A Lifelong Fan

[Edited on 02.23.2012 6:46 PM PST]

  • 02.09.2012 10:17 PM PDT

"To me, a nice triple kill with the sniper is infinitely more impressive than any Living Dead Killionaire"

Does flaming people on forums count as an esport?

I'm a commendation/achievement/statistics freak.

-David (Drake)

Aww...

I feel the same. Although I started with Halo 2 and then later got CE, IMO H2 was the best but Halo 1, 2, and 3 will always be remembered as possibly the best shooter trilogy ever.

  • 02.09.2012 10:33 PM PDT

Without a doubt the one of the most revolutionary FPS games we will ever see. But you can always dream....

  • 02.09.2012 11:11 PM PDT

Good thread. Would read again.

  • 02.10.2012 1:48 AM PDT

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Posted by: FALSE R3ALITYx
And Cobravert is absolutely correct.

Posted by: Der Todesengel
"In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth and Cobra."
- Der

I think this could have been posted and signed by nearly everyone who still resides in the Halo 3 forum, let alone that still lurk B.net.
Reach depressed/bored/bewildered the heck out of me. Not because of the story line either. Well, that bored me.

  • 02.10.2012 5:18 AM PDT

Industrial Strength , No Brain Required.

I played (again) the whole Halo CE campaign yesterday on my old xbox, and some H3 matchmaking today.

Feels good man.

I swear to God I'm going to lurk on Bungie.net in the future 10 years.

  • 02.10.2012 12:14 PM PDT

So, by your decisions, you betray Bungie for one above par game after an epic trilogy of games?

Wow. No faith much? If they never ditched Halo and stuck with Halo 4, would you still care to try it? Or would your back still be turned?

  • 02.10.2012 2:23 PM PDT


Posted by: Maxpower772
So, by your decisions, you betray Bungie for one above par game after an epic trilogy of games?

Wow. No faith much? If they never ditched Halo and stuck with Halo 4, would you still care to try it? Or would your back still be turned?


Reach was nothing like the others.
1. The graphics were too cartoony... Sure they were good but I didn't like them personally.
2. The guns weren't very good and you can say what you want but the BR became a big part of Halo and I was disappointed when it didn't carry over.
3. Technically, Bungie isn't over Reach so I'm not "loosing my faith"
a) I definitely don't have "faith" in anything, let alone some cultist OR fanboy lust for Bungie. Just saying.
b) I had legitimate reasons to( ^, and below ), look at ODST, and Reach.
4. The game doesn't stand up with the already established facts about the events of Reach as it was explained in the books.
5. In my opinion, the online gameplay was never that fun to me which is why I tried to cheat. I didn't want to play the thing to get the armor, just wanted my armor, but I digress.

To be honest y0ou shouldn't hate on me for my opinions. On my post. It was never about Halo4 not coming out, the game just didn't meet my expectations.

  • 02.16.2012 11:15 PM PDT


Posted by: SilentFailure
I played (again) the whole Halo CE campaign yesterday on my old xbox, and some H3 matchmaking today.

Feels good man.

I swear to God I'm going to lurk on Bungie.net in the future 10 years.


Lurk strong my friend, as I will lurk as well!

  • 02.16.2012 11:19 PM PDT

By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

Posted by: blokhead117
look at ODST


Not sure what you mean by this. ODST's storyline was lightyears ahead of the other Halo games and the gameplay was brilliant.

5. In my opinion, the online gameplay was never that fun to me which is why I tried to cheat. I didn't want to play the thing to get the armor, just wanted my armor, but I digress.

This... is just sad. You can't consider yourself a fan of anything if you're going to cheat your way through it, it destroys the purpose of the entertainment value the game is trying to make you appreciate.

[Edited on 02.18.2012 10:51 AM PST]

  • 02.18.2012 10:51 AM PDT

I run Skirmish!!!


Posted by: Maxpower772
So, by your decisions, you betray Bungie for one above par game after an epic trilogy of games?

Wow. No faith much? If they never ditched Halo and stuck with Halo 4, would you still care to try it? Or would your back still be turned?


Bungie betrayed us by spitting out this reach game and including halo in the title.. if your a true halo fan, you would not enjoy reach as much as the other three and they are not comparable at all

  • 02.18.2012 5:14 PM PDT

Halo 2 > Halo 3 > Halo 3 ODST > Halo Reach > Halo CE

Based on campaigns.


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Posted by: Maxpower772
So, by your decisions, you betray Bungie for one above par game after an epic trilogy of games?

Wow. No faith much? If they never ditched Halo and stuck with Halo 4, would you still care to try it? Or would your back still be turned?


Bungie betrayed us by spitting out this reach game and including halo in the title.. if your a true halo fan, you would not enjoy reach as much as the other three and they are not comparable at all


Im a true fan of Halo, and Reach is my third favourite Halo game after Halo 2 and Halo 3. I absoloutely love Halo to bits, its the obly game I ever play and i think its amazing, but i dont really like CE. Am i not a true Halo fan?

  • 02.18.2012 5:25 PM PDT

I acknowledge my user name is stupid. However, I promise I'm not.

Disclaimer: The latter is a lie.

Jesus, this forum is becoming depressing. Christ.

  • 02.18.2012 5:50 PM PDT



This... is just sad. You can't consider yourself a fan of anything if you're going to cheat your way through it, it destroys the purpose of the entertainment value the game is trying to make you appreciate.

Yes, I can consider myself a fan because I live in this wonderful country and am therefore entitled to do so if I please. Secondly, I can call myself a fan because I have kept up with everything involving the Halo universe (including books, forums, and obviously games) quite extensively. My third thing is, any entertainment value I was supposed to absorb was overwhelmed by my frustration and disappointment in the all around shoddy gameplay. And about the cheating, I didn't hurt anyone with the glitch I was doing. I got reset, re-achieved my rank and said f@@@ it. Thats when I quit.

  • 02.18.2012 8:10 PM PDT

By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

Posted by: blokhead117
Yes, I can consider myself a fan because I live in this wonderful country and am therefore entitled to do so if I please. Secondly, I can call myself a fan because I have kept up with everything involving the Halo universe (including books, forums, and obviously games) quite extensively. My third thing is, any entertainment value I was supposed to absorb was overwhelmed by my frustration and disappointment in the all around shoddy gameplay. And about the cheating, I didn't hurt anyone with the glitch I was doing. I got reset, re-achieved my rank and said f@@@ it. Thats when I quit.


Oh, don't give me your pseudo-patriotic narcissism. The Terms of Sevice and Use are pretty specific about cheating and that it's strictly prohibited, don't try to justify it to yourself (or, worse, others) with such a stupid response.

How can you "not hurt anyone" by cheating? You know what the point of cheating is? Giving yourself an unfair advantage by means that you weren't supposed to use, ergo you are hurting the experience of other players by not playing fairly. If it was so "shoddy" and "disappointing" then just play something else, don't waste the time of other people and yourself by doing stupid things.

  • 02.19.2012 10:33 AM PDT
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All that is needed for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.

Hey guys, check out this video someone made.

It pretty much sums up all of our thoughts without a single word said. I <3 halo 3.

  • 02.19.2012 10:44 AM PDT

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Posted by: Cobravert
I think this could have been posted and signed by nearly everyone who still resides in the Halo 3 forum, let alone that still lurk B.net.
Reach depressed/bored/bewildered the heck out of me. Not because of the story line either. Well, that bored me.


I agree completely. Nobody beleives me when I say this, but I'm pretty sure Reach gave me Pneumonia.

  • 02.19.2012 1:57 PM PDT
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Posted by: Mark V guy
but i dont really like CE. Am i not a true Halo fan?
nope, we are all Halo fans if we like a game from the series, it's just that people almost always expects people to have a high perception of Halo: Combat Evolved

  • 02.19.2012 2:40 PM PDT


Posted by: ajw34307
Posted by: blokhead117
Yes, I can consider myself a fan because I live in this wonderful country and am therefore entitled to do so if I please. Secondly, I can call myself a fan because I have kept up with everything involving the Halo universe (including books, forums, and obviously games) quite extensively. My third thing is, any entertainment value I was supposed to absorb was overwhelmed by my frustration and disappointment in the all around shoddy gameplay. And about the cheating, I didn't hurt anyone with the glitch I was doing. I got reset, re-achieved my rank and said f@@@ it. Thats when I quit.


Oh, don't give me your pseudo-patriotic narcissism. The Terms of Sevice and Use are pretty specific about cheating and that it's strictly prohibited, don't try to justify it to yourself (or, worse, others) with such a stupid response.

How can you "not hurt anyone" by cheating? You know what the point of cheating is? Giving yourself an unfair advantage by means that you weren't supposed to use, ergo you are hurting the experience of other players by not playing fairly. If it was so "shoddy" and "disappointing" then just play something else, don't waste the time of other people and yourself by doing stupid things.




Straight from the ToS:

"[Do not]damage, disable, overburden, or impair the Service (or the networks connected to the Service) or interfere with anyone else's ability to access or use the Service;"

Damaged? Unlikely.
Disabled? The service still worked. My network still worked. Nobody else had impaired access. Huh.
Overburdened? Also unlikely.
Impaired? See disabled.
Interference? Unlikely as well.

I Ctrl-F'd the page, and I found out that word "Manipulate" or any subsets such as "manipulating" or "manipulated" never appeared. Once.

Let's look at glitching.

"[Do not] exploit a bug, or make an unauthorized modification, to any software or data to gain unfair advantage in a game , contest, or promotion."

Did I exploit a bug? Yes. Was it unfair? While everybody is more than capable of doing it, I'm not going to try and argue that.

But most importantly, did it give me an advantage of any kind?

HELL NO!

I have followed the Xbox Live Terms of Service, and by Microsoft's Standards, have made no ban-able offense.

Don't forget the weekly update that said;
"Nope. You won't be banned for legitimately playing Reach. If you find some particularly fast way of earning Credits because you want to be the first person on the planet with thunder and lightning swirling your visage, we won't ban you for that, either. Assuming you're actually playing, your efficient means of farming Credits will only expedite your trip to the Daily Cap it won't send you to Banadu."

While it is obviously a method of boosting, we were still playing the game; that's better than can be said about some methods, such as using the Marine turret gunner to kill troops on Long Night of Solace. We were still killing covies to complete those challenges, even if we did so slowly and with massive reward. This is actually the reason I tried out the glitch.

And finally, it simply is not cheating, which is defined in this context as giving yourself an unfair advantage. In what way has our impatience given us an advantage? Is my Scout Helmet going to strike fear into the heart of my opponents, giving me an immense psychological advantage?

This is complete bull ****. At the very least, they could have given us the option to reset our commendations and start again clean, or give us something to compensate for our hard-earned legitimate accomplishments.


[Edited on 02.19.2012 9:06 PM PST]

  • 02.19.2012 7:52 PM PDT

PLAY MY FORGE MAPS!

Maps completed so far:
SKY SQUARE


Posted by: Maxpower772
So, by your decisions, you betray Bungie for one above par game after an epic trilogy of games?

Wow. No faith much? If they never ditched Halo and stuck with Halo 4, would you still care to try it? Or would your back still be turned?


Why are you talking about faith. Bungie Isn't a religion. Nor is gaming as a whole. Nobody has been betrayed. It's purely opinion based and just because you have a different opinion to someone else doesn't mean that they're any less of a fan than you. Ridiculous.

  • 02.19.2012 9:08 PM PDT
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Posted by: blokhead117

[quote]Posted by: Maxpower772

5. In my opinion, the online gameplay was never that fun to me which is why I tried to cheat. I didn't want to play the thing to get the armor, just wanted my armor, but I digress.



Cheating is for losers! Who invented cheating? LOSERS!

  • 02.20.2012 1:51 AM PDT

Sadly Reach multiplayer was nothing like Halo 3, the problem with it was the weapons and the armour abilities,
The armour abilities made it so if you went to splatter someone they would lock up and and kill you, and the weapons were no good for long range as they had bloom, so to shoot accurately you had to slow down thus letting them run to cover. The KEY to multiplayer is to have every player as equal as possible in terms of movement and ability, Look at Halo 3 everyone moved the same speed, jumped the same hight, started with the same guns. what this did was encourage teamwork to gain map control in order to attain the power weapons and thus win the game. players also had to change the way they played the game so they could make the most of what they had in order to get better instead of just changing their loadout.

I am a cod player as well and the trap that COD falls into all the time is the thought that with every new release there has to be more perks and gun attachments and proficiencies and all that. Sometimes less is better. MW3 falls into this exact problem. infinity ward have become intent on replacing skill with perks. Look at COD4 there was not much to help the player at all. the player had to change their strategy in the long run more so than just changing their class.

Its sad to see the bungie era of halo finish but we will look forward to what bungie comes up with next and also i am looking to forward to the return of the chief in halo 4 No Bloom :)

Just a few of my thoughts
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  • 03.10.2012 11:30 PM PDT

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An good thread.

  • 03.11.2012 1:34 PM PDT