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Subject: Quit Ban?


Posted by: MR E0S
Just so you're perfectly clear on what that greater problem is:

-blam!-s that say "It'll spread the population to thin"

When presented with the solution of making more playlist to eliminate people quitting due to map/gametype

-blam!-s that say "But join-in-progress ruins the competitiveness of Halo"
When presented with the one and only true remedy to quitters


-blam!-s that say "Make it harsher"
When talking about how to improve a failed banning system that accomplishes JACK -blam!- -blam!-!


You kiss your mother with that mouth? You must owe a fortune to the swear jar...

Ladies and gentlemen, again, note the bold statement. Can someone tell me whenever Reach had the competitive aspect to it? I can tell you Arena doesn't even come close to the true fans were looking for.

That was the writing on the wall. Bungie was done with the cries of boosting and faking ranks. And that wouldn't surprise me. I was sick of it too, and so was the community.

But the other thing was that so many people were ragequitting (see what I did there?), and the community at large was sick of it. People were tired of selfish people, that had their own beliefs that XBOX Live could be bent to their own wills because they didn't read the terms of services (again, see what I did there?), and again, the quit ban was born.

And by the way, we're not talking about the greater issues, we're talking about the quit ban. Please stop derailing the thread. I will have to get a moderator if you decide to be selfish and turn the OPs thread into your own attack thread.

  • 02.13.2012 5:52 PM PDT

Posted by: MR E0S
Why does matchmaking start a match when it's clearly uneven teams?
I agree that the lobby should replace dropped players who quit before the game starts, but neither of us created the matchmaking system. You are aware that you won't be replaced, yet you quit anyway. That is your fault, because you are knowingly deserting a team that needs everybody in order to stand a chance. Once the first person quits, more and more people quit. It is a game destroying chain reaction that is started by the selfish person who quit first.

[Edited on 02.13.2012 5:55 PM PST]

  • 02.13.2012 5:53 PM PDT
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Halo: Reach is the beginning of a new age for gaming.
It proves that developers can get away with punishing their players instead of fixing their game....and yet the fanboys will still sing praises to them.

-blam!- all of you fanboys!

Uhmm......quit ban is pretty much tied into the greater issue.
How did I derail the thread?
Because I pretty much am trying to point you at matchmaking? The real reason for people quitting.


Remember.. There are tons of people on X-Box live.
But...matchmaking consistently locks you into a rooms with only a handful at a time and says YOU MUST PLAY WITH THESE PEOPLE OR ESLE!

You people need to realize that not every lobby that ever gets created....is worth staying in or playing. Some people DO NOT BELONG IN THE SAME ROOM WITH EACH OTHER! Yet matchmaking locks you in these lobbies anyway every -blam!- time you attempt hit that button. with no other course of actions but to quit.

And to think the only decsion or preference people get to select to help them avoid lobbies they don't belong in is a playlist full of -blam!-.

I'd prefer these filters
Ping
# of players
Map
Gametype

Instead of these filters
BTB
Team Slayer
Squad Slayer
Action sack
etc. etc.
and whetever other lame playlist they have.

[Edited on 02.13.2012 6:03 PM PST]

  • 02.13.2012 5:54 PM PDT


Posted by: Chief Bigwig

I question why you are trying. We've both had enough experience to know what to do in this situation.

  • 02.13.2012 6:01 PM PDT

Posted by: ThreeSixXero
Posted by: Chief Bigwig
I question why you are trying. We've both had enough experience to know what to do in this situation.
Boredom.

  • 02.13.2012 6:03 PM PDT
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Halo: Reach is the beginning of a new age for gaming.
It proves that developers can get away with punishing their players instead of fixing their game....and yet the fanboys will still sing praises to them.

-blam!- all of you fanboys!

I'd prefer these filters
Ping
# of players
Map
Gametype

Instead of these filters
BTB
Team Slayer
Squad Slayer
Action sack
etc. etc.

  • 02.13.2012 6:04 PM PDT


Posted by: Chief Bigwig
Posted by: ThreeSixXero
Posted by: Chief Bigwig
I question why you are trying. We've both had enough experience to know what to do in this situation.
Boredom.

Ahh, makes sense.

  • 02.13.2012 6:04 PM PDT


Posted by: MR E0S
Uhmm......quit ban is pretty much tied into the greater issue.
How did I derail the thread?
Because I pretty much am trying to point you at matchmaking? The real reason for people quitting.


Remember.. There are tons of people on X-Box live.
But...matchmaking consistently locks you into a rooms with only a handful at a time and says YOU MUST PLAY WITH THESE PEOPLE OR ESLE!

You people need to realize that not lobby that ever gets created....is worth staying in or playing. Some people DO NOT BELONG IN THE SAME ROOM WITH EACH OTHER!. Yet matchmaking locks you in there. with no other course of actions but to quit.


And you need to suffer the consequences of ruining the experience of others because you don't feel like playing

This was a problem, honestly, since Halo 3. Selfish people, not waking up from their trance of being competitive and just enjoying the game, thus leaving because they don't want to even give it a try. You're basically judging people just based on their names and lolranks.

Yeah, I don't like a lot of the people on there, you included. But, guess what? I play the game anyway, because I am enjoying the game. If you want to be rude and quit because you don't like the map, then go right ahead, I wish you well, and just enjoy the punishment that comes your way.


Posted by: ThreeSixXero

Posted by: Chief Bigwig
Posted by: ThreeSixXero
Posted by: Chief Bigwig
I question why you are trying. We've both had enough experience to know what to do in this situation.
Boredom.

Ahh, makes sense.


Lol don't we do that all the time?


[Edited on 02.13.2012 6:06 PM PST]

  • 02.13.2012 6:04 PM PDT
  • gamertag: MR E0S
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Halo: Reach is the beginning of a new age for gaming.
It proves that developers can get away with punishing their players instead of fixing their game....and yet the fanboys will still sing praises to them.

-blam!- all of you fanboys!

I'd prefer these filters
Ping
# of players
Map
Gametype

Instead of these filters
BTB
Team Slayer
Squad Slayer
Action sack
etc. etc.

  • 02.13.2012 6:04 PM PDT

The quit ban was a mistake in my opinion and should have been replaced by the join game in progress option.
This would ensure that any players playing with a full team would be matched against another full for the duration of the match even if a player quit.
If you go into team playlists as a random you know its likely that some players will quit and that's a chance you take.

  • 02.13.2012 6:05 PM PDT
  • gamertag: MR E0S
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Halo: Reach is the beginning of a new age for gaming.
It proves that developers can get away with punishing their players instead of fixing their game....and yet the fanboys will still sing praises to them.

-blam!- all of you fanboys!

I'd prefer these filters
Ping
# of players
Map
Gametype

Instead of these filters
BTB
Team Slayer
Squad Slayer
Action sack
etc. etc.

  • 02.13.2012 6:05 PM PDT
  • gamertag: MR E0S
  • user homepage:

Halo: Reach is the beginning of a new age for gaming.
It proves that developers can get away with punishing their players instead of fixing their game....and yet the fanboys will still sing praises to them.

-blam!- all of you fanboys!

I'd prefer these filters
+Ping
+# of players
+Map
+Gametype
(Select multiple filters at once, even)

Instead of these filters
BTB
or
Team Slayer
or
Squad Slayer
or
Action sack
or
etc. etc.
(you only get to choose one, and each one has a bunch of random -blam!- almost completely unrelated to one another all buried into that one playlist, pretty much gauranteeing you'll have no -blam!- clue what you're going to be playing, until you're playing it)

Don't even give input on what the quit ban should or should not be until you -blam!- people can get a clue to what the real problem is.

[Edited on 02.13.2012 6:13 PM PST]

  • 02.13.2012 6:06 PM PDT
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Hey, uh, if you like vs threads, then check out this little group right here, if you have the time. It's pretty fun, just hop right in.

...Or you could just not quit.

  • 02.13.2012 6:08 PM PDT
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*wonders how New Clan Recruitment For Shadow Pack thread gets 55 replies*

*reads "Hi I'm Ashley. . ." *

[Question Answered]

*proceeds to read on, shakes head, and gently laughs*

Ive never encountered this dreaded Quit Ban, so I wont try to state my opinion. I do know that if I ever did get banned, well, I have bout twenty other games to play, or I would just got offline & do something else.

  • 02.13.2012 6:09 PM PDT


Posted by: Ex0 Dante
Posted by: ThreeSixXero
Posted by: Chief Bigwig
Posted by: ThreeSixXero
Posted by: Chief Bigwig
I question why you are trying. We've both had enough experience to know what to do in this situation.
Boredom.

Ahh, makes sense.

Lol don't we do that all the time?

True, but this would count as more frustrating than boredom-relieving.

[Edited on 02.13.2012 6:10 PM PST]

  • 02.13.2012 6:10 PM PDT


Posted by: Sgt Commando
Ive never encountered this dreaded Quit Ban, so I wont try to state my opinion. I do know that if I ever did get banned, well, I have bout twenty other games to play, or I would just got offline & do something else.

Yes it has always seemed a little strange that Bungie brought in a system that would drive players away.

  • 02.13.2012 6:13 PM PDT
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Halo: Reach is the beginning of a new age for gaming.
It proves that developers can get away with punishing their players instead of fixing their game....and yet the fanboys will still sing praises to them.

-blam!- all of you fanboys!

Realize...

That I would never have to quit out of a lobby due to map/gametype... if I was never put into that lobby in the first place.

GET IT?

If I was consistently put into map/gametype lobbies of "MY CHOOSING" I don't have to interfere and ruin your lobbies.
Because your headhunter lobby would never be graced with my presence in the first place...

GET IT?

[Edited on 02.13.2012 6:17 PM PST]

  • 02.13.2012 6:15 PM PDT

Posted by: ThreeSixXero
True, but this would count as more frustrating than boredom-relieving.
Frustration often comes from boredom anyway.

Speaking of which, it is time for me to play more Reach with the community that refuses to stay for a whole game.

  • 02.13.2012 6:18 PM PDT

This idiot is at it again...

  • 02.13.2012 6:19 PM PDT

Immortality: A toy which people cry for, And on their knees apply for, Dispute, contend and lie for, And if allowed Would be right proud Eternally to die for.


Posted by: boomdeyadah
This idiot is at it again...
Lol, He spends more posting than "ranking up" in Reach.

[Edited on 02.13.2012 6:22 PM PST]

  • 02.13.2012 6:22 PM PDT
  • gamertag: MR E0S
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Halo: Reach is the beginning of a new age for gaming.
It proves that developers can get away with punishing their players instead of fixing their game....and yet the fanboys will still sing praises to them.

-blam!- all of you fanboys!

Sorry boom.. you missed it all. Cause I'm about to bail.

  • 02.13.2012 6:22 PM PDT

@Mr. E0S

It tells you player count in the playlist selection. If you know how many players there are, you can get a sense of what types of maps are in the selection.

Ex. Squad Slayer:
max party size 5 --> 10 people
medium sized maps
Slayer gametypes

Derp

  • 02.13.2012 6:22 PM PDT

Good. Your posts give me down syndrome.

  • 02.13.2012 6:23 PM PDT
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Halo: Reach is the beginning of a new age for gaming.
It proves that developers can get away with punishing their players instead of fixing their game....and yet the fanboys will still sing praises to them.

-blam!- all of you fanboys!

Medium sized maps...oh wow, what a proper filter as opposed to most other games that let me select the EXACT MAP

Slayer gametypes...same as above.

Slayer gametypes includes headhunter.. Sorry.. NO!
Slayer gametypes includes fiesta.... HELL NO!
Slayer gametypes includes rockets only
Slayer gametypes includes SWAT

Are you seeing where I'm going with this?

[Edited on 02.13.2012 6:27 PM PST]

  • 02.13.2012 6:24 PM PDT


Posted by: boomdeyadah
Good. Your posts give me down syndrome.
You cant just get down syndrome you where probably born with it.

  • 02.13.2012 6:25 PM PDT