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"You must face the truth squarely and without flinching from duty. Our enemies are mortal no longer. Mercy for such as they is a chimera, self-deception is its only ally. Dedicate this weapon, given unto your hand at the behest of the Emperor, to their destruction. Regard its function as your only duty: you live only to bring cleansing fire."

Its not John 117, its not in that section, it is in Revelation!

Revelations
Chapter 1 part 7

"Behold, he is comming with clouds, and every eye will see him, even they who periced him. And all the tribes of earth will mourn because of him. Even so, Amen"

in the trailer we see that the structure (i beleive it is the ark) opens up and the cluds above it form away, i have reason to beleive that the ship truth is on will land within the ark. Commin through the clouds. It says everyone will see him, even they who peirced him. This sounds like the covenant will witness truth and even the chief (who tried to stop him) will witness it.
"And all the tribes of earth will mourn because of him"- read that, defianantly sounds like truth who wants the humans to perish

now
Chapter 1 part 17

"And when i saw him, i fell at His feet dead. But he laid his right hand on me saying to me "Do not be afraid; I am the first and the last."

Ok now correct me if i'm wrong but isnt the chief the first spartan in the Spartan II project, and isnt he pretty much the last?

But then it could also mean Truth, he seemed like the dominant prophet (The first) and now he is the last

Now finally
Chapter 11 part 7

"When they finish their testimony, the beast that ascends out of the bottomless pit will make war against them, and kill them"

Sounds to me like gravemind is the beast and he is hell bent on stopping the covenant from starting their journey. After Truth finishes his "Testimony" the beast (Gravemind) will be right there, trying to stop him

One last thing
10+1+7=18

Here is Chapter 18 part 1

"After these things i saw another angel coming down from Heaven, having great authority, and the earth was illuminated with his glory"

Sounds like it could either be the Arbiter or Chief, as they both have supreme authority

Also in the revelation it declares that there are 7 Churches and Seven Stars (Angels). There where 7 HALOs

I am not quit sure what the seven angels would be.

Thoughts?


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  • 05.19.2006 8:32 AM PDT
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It's too bad I'm an atheist or else I could see the connections. D:

  • 05.19.2006 8:41 AM PDT

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Posted by: Ikwa
One last thing
10+1+7=18

Here is Chapter 18 part 1

"After these things i saw another angel coming down from Heaven, having great authority, and the earth was illuminated with his glory"

Sounds like it could either be the Arbiter or Chief, as they both have supreme authority


Ok, wait, now you're just stabbing around in the dark right there.. :P
Other than that, not a bad theory. How many Spartans are left? 7?

  • 05.19.2006 8:43 AM PDT
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"You must face the truth squarely and without flinching from duty. Our enemies are mortal no longer. Mercy for such as they is a chimera, self-deception is its only ally. Dedicate this weapon, given unto your hand at the behest of the Emperor, to their destruction. Regard its function as your only duty: you live only to bring cleansing fire."

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Posted by: Ikwa
One last thing
10+1+7=18

Here is Chapter 18 part 1

"After these things i saw another angel coming down from Heaven, having great authority, and the earth was illuminated with his glory"

Sounds like it could either be the Arbiter or Chief, as they both have supreme authority


Ok, wait, now you're just stabbing around in the dark right there.. :P
Other than that, not a bad theory. How many Spartans are left? 7?


for all i know the whole chapter could be involved. but that one part struck me as interesting

and i thought only like 5 spartans where left, i havnt read the books in a while

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  • 05.19.2006 8:45 AM PDT
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As for the "angels" part. There are seven races that make up the covenant. Just throwing that out there. Nice job looking all that up.

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Posted by: Endersan
It's too bad I'm an atheist or else I could see the connections. D:


You don't have to be believer. Its just a matter of interpretation. There's many more passages that could be related to the events of Halo, not just from the Bible, but also from Greek and Norse myth; Beowulf for example.

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Posted by: Endersan
It's too bad I'm an atheist or else I could see the connections. D:

[quote]but also from Greek and Norse myth; Beowulf for example.


It's not really interpretation, just a generic pro-an -tagonistic story. Beowolf overcame mighty enemies, just like Master Chief or any other hero for that matter.

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Lets to the math for 1+1+7=9. Read Chapter 9:1. The passage follows as:

"And the fifth angel blew his trumpet, and I saw a star fallen from heaven to earth, and he was given the key to the bottomless pit."

I'll leave you to figure that one out. =D

Fun stuff happen in Revelation that can be speculated have meaning in Halo. Just completely fun stuff.

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  • 05.19.2006 8:56 AM PDT

Yo!

the 7 angels could be the halo monitors

  • 05.19.2006 8:58 AM PDT
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"You must face the truth squarely and without flinching from duty. Our enemies are mortal no longer. Mercy for such as they is a chimera, self-deception is its only ally. Dedicate this weapon, given unto your hand at the behest of the Emperor, to their destruction. Regard its function as your only duty: you live only to bring cleansing fire."

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Lets to the math for 1+1+7=9. Read Chapter 9:1. The passage follows as:

"And the fifth angel blew his trumpet, and I saw a star fallen from heaven to earth, and he was given the key to the bottomless pit."

I'll leave you to figure that one out. =D

Fun stuff happen in Revelations that can be speculated have meaning in Halo. Just completely fun stuff.


that kinda goes with the whole forerunner ship landing in the ark thing.

  • 05.19.2006 8:59 AM PDT
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The book is called "Revelation" not "Revelations".

John the Revelator is rolling in his grave.

  • 05.19.2006 9:21 AM PDT
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"You must face the truth squarely and without flinching from duty. Our enemies are mortal no longer. Mercy for such as they is a chimera, self-deception is its only ally. Dedicate this weapon, given unto your hand at the behest of the Emperor, to their destruction. Regard its function as your only duty: you live only to bring cleansing fire."

oh yea, your right, i was looking at the REVELATION 5-7 and the 5 looked like an S at forst glance

  • 05.19.2006 9:23 AM PDT

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Maybe Bungie will make an update containes a terrible flaw and causes you xbox to explode leaving nothing but a black outline where it used to be.

Shhhhhh. That one is still in development.

I hear the best it can manage right now is a small fire. Exploding hardware may sound easy, but they're really hard to code.


Don't click

I KNEW IT!!! BUNGIE IS RAN BY RIGHT WING FUNDAMENTALISTS!!!!

  • 05.19.2006 9:24 AM PDT
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Posted by: Ikwa
oh yea, your right, i was looking at the REVELATION 5-7 and the 5 looked like an S at forst glance


Sorry for being a pain in the butt...it's just the "Revelation" implies that there is only one Revelation from One Source, whereas "Revelations" implies there are many gods giving relevations.

I don't want people to confuse true christianity with heathenism, you understand?

  • 05.19.2006 9:26 AM PDT
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I have to admit...Bungie made a game with an ass load of biblical type connections (weather they ment to do this I donno) yet won't allow discussion of relgion on their forums....jst boggles the mind really.

  • 05.19.2006 9:28 AM PDT

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Maybe Bungie will make an update containes a terrible flaw and causes you xbox to explode leaving nothing but a black outline where it used to be.

Shhhhhh. That one is still in development.

I hear the best it can manage right now is a small fire. Exploding hardware may sound easy, but they're really hard to code.


Don't click

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I have to admit...Bungie made a game with an ass load of biblical type connections (weather they ment to do this I donno) yet won't allow discussion of relgion on their forums....jst boggles the mind really.

You'd think that if I were to say that Jesus was black I would get struck by lighting by the almighty One, Him, He aka God.

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Posted by: stargaiden
Posted by: KoinOperatedBoy
I have to admit...Bungie made a game with an ass load of biblical type connections (weather they ment to do this I donno) yet won't allow discussion of relgion on their forums....jst boggles the mind really.

You'd think that if I were to say that Jesus was black I would get struck by lighting by the almighty One, Him, He aka God.

why? Assuming there was a guy named Jesus where people say there was....he was black.

  • 05.19.2006 9:32 AM PDT

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Maybe Bungie will make an update containes a terrible flaw and causes you xbox to explode leaving nothing but a black outline where it used to be.

Shhhhhh. That one is still in development.

I hear the best it can manage right now is a small fire. Exploding hardware may sound easy, but they're really hard to code.


Don't click

Well people often consider him a white guy with "fair skin" and long brown hair. He lived in the middle east where you could cook a steak on the ground. He would more than likely have a middle eastern or Arabian look. And quite possibly black curly hair. Like a jew fro.

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Posted by: stargaiden
Well people often consider him a white guy with "fair skin" and long brown hair. He lived in the middle east where you could cook a steak on the ground. He would more than likely have a middle eastern or Arabian look. And quite possibly black curly hair. Like a jew fro.


well popular doesn't mean right.



Think if they had Soul Glo around back then he would have used it?

  • 05.19.2006 9:38 AM PDT

Posted by: Recon Number 54
Posted by: stargaiden
Maybe Bungie will make an update containes a terrible flaw and causes you xbox to explode leaving nothing but a black outline where it used to be.

Shhhhhh. That one is still in development.

I hear the best it can manage right now is a small fire. Exploding hardware may sound easy, but they're really hard to code.


Don't click

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Posted by: stargaiden
Well people often consider him a white guy with "fair skin" and long brown hair. He lived in the middle east where you could cook a steak on the ground. He would more than likely have a middle eastern or Arabian look. And quite possibly black curly hair. Like a jew fro.


well popular doesn't mean right.



Think if they had Soul Glo around back then he would have used it?

I think there might have been something like Soul Glo back then. But I guess ear wax really wasn't great for the scalp and it made the hair unsightly.

  • 05.19.2006 9:40 AM PDT
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7 Angels...=
John
Linda
Fred
Will
Kelly
James
Arbiter

... am I right? There might be one more spartan... but I am not positive.
As for James... I have no idea if he is alive or not, as he gets literally, lost in space, when his thruster pack is hit.... and was not seen in any of the books after that. I would guess he was picked up by... something lol.

As for the beast.. Its either Gravemind, or a Sharqoi... but since the Sharqoi are part of the covenant, and we have not seen them, I have no idea.

  • 05.19.2006 9:56 AM PDT