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Subject: Do you follow Halo's book canon or game canon?

Both: I don't make the rules.

  • 02.14.2012 4:14 AM PDT

I find books easier to accept, especially when the games make errors that conflict with other plotlines.

  • 02.14.2012 4:30 AM PDT

*reminisces when the Bungie/Halo community wasn't made up of CoD kids*
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*activates time-machine and sets the clock back to Nov. 9, 2004*
glory days here I come..
*vanishes*


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Posted by: M94 Mushroom Man
Books. Except for Glasslands.


Why? I thought Grasslands was great.

It completely rewrote the Elite warrior ethos.

  • 02.14.2012 4:51 AM PDT

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In a matter of speaking, Halo would have less canon inconsistencies if there were no novels. There would be no people complaining about Reach or any other thing (Wars, Legends, etc) but the novels add to the lore of the franchise and so, are somewhat needed to make the game a credible story as opposed to the generic "save earth and shoot them aliens" FPS.

  • 02.14.2012 5:19 AM PDT
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I like the storyline behind Halo.

I really could care less about small differences here and there.

  • 02.14.2012 5:21 AM PDT

Both.
For example I follow the gameplay from Combat Evolved, but I also follow The Flood's sidestories like the ones with the ODST's and Zuka 'Zamamee.

  • 02.14.2012 5:39 AM PDT

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I follow the real canon, meaning that I follow both except when the books contradict with the games. In that case games take precedence.

  • 02.14.2012 7:35 PM PDT

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I follow the books first, games second. Where they can intertwine and help is when I do that. I consider the game's to be a softened version of the books.

  • 02.14.2012 8:04 PM PDT
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Both, then i combine them....

  • 02.15.2012 9:43 AM PDT

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I separated Bungie canon and Microsoft canon a looooooooooong time ago. They line up in areas, but they both tell an entirely different story.

  • 02.15.2012 9:54 AM PDT

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Both.

If your refering to Halo: Reach vs Halo: The Fall of Reach then read the ONI Data Drops on Halo Waypoint.

  • 02.15.2012 10:04 AM PDT
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Honestly, I'm not shooting down the books(they're all outstanding), but this is BUNGIE's story. In the books they mention how the S-III's were so secret and they worked for Section 3, but that is just speculation. Do the games have to go harmoniously with the books, no. They shouldn't have to. So to all those who do hate on Halo:Reach's campaign, think about it this way; how would you like it if you had to do every game you wanted to do by a book someone not even in your company wrote. And again, honestly, I like the books, but this is bungie's story.


The people that wrote the books wrote them using the Halo Bible....which was given by Bungie. The authors were using Bungie's own canon.

  • 02.15.2012 10:21 AM PDT
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I follow both, but whenever I see a contradiction I think, "Game canon overrules book canon."

I also leave out some of the stuff I don't like that wouldn't matter if it was in or out.

  • 02.15.2012 1:51 PM PDT

-blam!- Was that actually blammed out? Or did I just type it? You'll never know.

Books where they don't contradict the games. Except for Fall of Reach. And I still somewhat childishly refuse to accept Cryptum and Primordium.

  • 02.15.2012 1:56 PM PDT
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Posted by: dahuterschuter
Books where they don't contradict the games. Except for Fall of Reach. And I still somewhat childishly refuse to accept Cryptum and Primordium.


Heh, I was like that too for a while. I will never accept Halo: Reach, over TFoR though.

Glasslands, eh, I still don't know where I stand with it.

  • 02.15.2012 2:05 PM PDT

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Both, it would be silly at this point not to. Say you apply that logic to the Star Wars franchise, the movie themselves are so simplified and scrapped that if you only managed to watch them you would only know so much about the universe. You wouldn't know why things happened, or how they came to be, or who people specifically are.

  • 02.15.2012 2:25 PM PDT

I like to add the book and game canon together but I believe in the Fall of reach story rather than the Halo: reach Canon as they are completly different.

  • 02.16.2012 2:18 PM PDT

If you don't got it, you want it. If you got it, you want more of it. Of course if you don't know what it is, it's hard to get any in the first place.

Game Canon trumps book canon because one is a piece of primary content while the other is auxiliary material.

It's sadly the same system Lucas uses to control the nightmare that is the Star Wars EU. Some books trump others, which are trumped by LucasArts games, which are Trumped by LucasFilm TV shows, which are Trumped by LucasFilm films.

It's all a food chain. Thus Halo games are higher up on the food chain than the books and are ultimately all that can be relied upon for future Halo products by 343 industries. If any secondary product contradicts or gets in the way of a primary product it no longer "counts". Sort of like how they could pretend the Spirit of Fire is lost in space forever if they don't want to bring it up again, or could pretend Halo Wars never happened at all.

Halo: Reach and the Diary actively undermines or rewrites events from multiple secondary sources and thus given its status as a primary source it overrides the rest.

tl;dr: No matter how good some of the books may be, you're ultimately reading fan-fiction because MS/ 343 don't really give a damn. All that kind of stuff has an expiration date stamped: Whenever Inconvenient.

  • 02.17.2012 1:24 AM PDT

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Posted by: M94 Mushroom Man
Books. Except for Glasslands.
Hear hear.

[Edited on 02.17.2012 4:26 AM PST]

  • 02.17.2012 4:25 AM PDT

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