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i have very strong evidence that the humans are a descendant or are have ties to the forerunners..

GUILTY SPARK: Is something wrong? MASTER CHIEF: No, nothing. 343 GUILTY SPARK: Splendid. Shall we? (Master Chief and 343 Guilty Spark walk up to the main panel.) 343 GUILTY SPARK: ...Unfortunately, my usefulness to this particular endeavor has come to an end. Protocol does not allow units with my classification to... perform a task as important as the reunification of the index with the core. That final step is reserved for you, Reclaimer. (Master Chief takes the index, and puts it into a hole in the console. Lights and holograms appear, and then fade.) 343 GUILTY SPARK: Odd, that wasn't supposed to happen. (Cortana suddenly appears over the console.) CORTANA: Oh really?! (There is a flash of light, and 343 Guilty Spark is thrown back, and down to the ground.) MASTER CHIEF: Cortana? CORTANA: I've spent the last 12 hours cooped up in here, watching you toady about, helping that thing get set to slit our throats! MASTER CHIEF: Hold on now, he's a friend. CORTANA: Oh? I didn't realize. He's your pal, is he? Your chum? Do you have any idea what that bastard almost made you do?! MASTER CHIEF: Yes... Activate Halo's defenses, and destroy the flood, which is why we brought the index to the control center. CORTANA: You mean this? (Index appears in Cortana's hand.) 343 GUILTY SPARK: A construct?! In the core?! That is absolutely unacceptable! CORTANA: Sod off! 343 GUILTY SPARK: What impertinence! I shall purge you at once! CORTANA: You sure that's a good idea? (cortana teleports the index away.) 343 GUILTY SPARK: How, how... How dare you! I'll- CORTANA: Do what? I have the index! You can just float and sputter! MASTER CHIEF: Enough! The flood is spreading. If we activate Halo's defenses, we can wipe them out. CORTANA: You have no idea how this ring works, do you? Why the forerunners built it? Halo doesn't kill flood, it kills their food. Humans, covenant, whatever. We're all equally edible. The only way to stop the flood is to starve them to death. And that's exactly what Halo is designed to do; wipe the galaxy clean of all sentient life. You don't believe me? Ask him. (Master Chief turns to 343 Guilty Spark) MASTER CHIEF: Is this true? 343 GUILTY SPARK: (pauses) More or less. Technically, this installation's pulse has a maximum effective radius of twenty-five thousand light years. But, once the others follow suit, this galaxy will be quite devoid of life, or at least any life with sufficient biomass to sustain the flood. (pause) But you already knew that. I mean, how couldn't you? CORTANA: Left out that little detail, did he? 343 GUILTY SPARK: We have followed outbreak containment procedure to the letter. You were with me each step of the way, as we managed this crisis. CORTANA: Chief, I'm picking up movement! 343 GUILTY SPARK: Why would you hesitate to do what you have already done? CORTANA: We need to go, right now. (Sentinels float up behind 343 Guilty Spark) 343 GUILTY SPARK: Last time, you asked me, if it was my choice, would I do it? Having considerable time to ponder your query, my answer has not changed. (Master Chief takes Cortana's disk out of the console, and inserts it into his head.) 343 GUILTY SPARK: There is no choice. We must activate the ring. CORTANA: (whispers in Master Chief's head) Get us out of here! 343

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noones going to read all that, including moderators.


Closed.

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Last time, you asked me, if it was my choice, would I do it? Having considerable time to ponder your query, my answer has not changed.
There is no doubt that forerunners are humans

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im sorry kcid if you are to lazy to read that.. if waste to much of your time reading it dont waste my time with your pointless post.

  • 05.19.2006 11:41 AM PDT
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ok...her goes

* State your point after making people read that long quote which we all remember.

* He gets mistaken for a forerunner, big deal, hes in a suit, how can 343 tell what he looks like and actually say hes a forerunner when we know hes human. maybe the forerunners had suits (they had stronger suits, remember 343 said so)...

* There is much better proof out there, but this one keeps coming up. We've all been alerted that 343 mistoke MC as forerunner

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Your mom goes to college in seek of more knowledge. heh.

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There's still doubt.. That's not quite proof. And uh, Kcid, that was a really assinine comment.

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it has nothing to do with the suit... he calls mc a reclaimer.. and in halo 2... in which he also calls johnson and miranda reclaimers.. and they are not wearing suits!

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Dude that is not proof, its merely evidence that suggests so. Noone has actually flat out said "Humans are forerunners". And come on... Bungie loves their twists right? Theres no way humans will be forerunners because its so goddamn obvious.

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Yea.. but i think that is know to almost everyone who actually plays halo and halo 2. Just like how when you kill the prophet of regret red blood comes out that oddly enough looks like human blood. And there is one part in the book (i can't remember what part) a covenant says "It's weird how we did not even try to accept the humans into our army, instead we just are exterminating them" HINT HINT because they do not want them to find out about there secret. Well thats what i think anyway.

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I hate to say it, but that is not really valid proof that they are the same. If they were the same, why are the humans refered to as Reclaimers and not Creators.

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and i didnt say humans WERE forerunners.. i said they could be or the humans have ties to the forerunners i.e allies/ friends. and anyhoo the forerunners were more than likely an "old covenant" of differerent races because it would be nearly impossibly for one group to build all they did..

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and to Dr Mayhem 7... you cant be called a reclaimer if you already havent claimed once...

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Posted by: KciD
noones going to read all that, including moderators.


Closed.


or maybe your reading level is just to low to read that, i read it all, humans are the forerunners

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Posted by: Sought
and i didnt say humans WERE forerunners.. i said they could be or the humans have ties to the forerunners i.e allies/ friends. and anyhoo the forerunners were more than likely an "old covenant" of differerent races because it would be nearly impossibly for one group to build all they did..


Subject: humans are forerunners (PROOF)

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God sorry about that its been a long day. I do agree that the Forerunner were also a collection of races like the covenant. On Halo04 there were some huge tunnels that I can only imagine what used to accomodate and normal human height access tunnels, suggests that some were big (i'm sure i read somewhere that they were referred to as giants) and some were small (normal human size ish).

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yeah thats my guess.... and for some reason i dont know why.... the prophets fear the humans in some way...

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~THIS MAY LOOK LONG BUT IF YOU READ YOU MAY ACTUALLY LEARN SOMETHING~

Guys, if you know about fast traveling, near the speed of light, than you would know that time crawls when going that fast. For example, say i drove a ship 186,000 miles per hour(speed of light) to the nearest halo, on earth many years would have past. But in the ship at most it would've taken a week. I would have aged a week and everything. Soooooo, think about it, do you know everything that happened exactly 250 years ago. No. Neither would the humans in the year 2555 (whatever year it is). The book says they have had space travel for centuries. So i'm sure some type of human life went to a few galaxies, made contact with the flood, built the halo's, and are on their way back.(They could have been humans from the year 2554 as well.) Remember, it only feels like a few weeks for say 5 years. So they've probably been in space for a few years in their time. On earth centuries have past. Einstein proved this theory, the one about time dragging.
And the part about 343 mistaking MC as a forerunner, well, I'm sure when he said the suits were better he meant that they had the newest technology of suits. 343 only saw MC in his halo suit, not his halo 2 suit, so it could have easily been a ship with some spartans on it. Basically, unless Bungie makes a big twist, HUMANS ARE FORERUNNERS. Period. End of Story.
Any one who says they aren't, prove it.

P.S. worm holes make time drag too.

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Here... It is easier to read like this...

GUILTY SPARK: Is something wrong?

MASTER CHIEF: No, nothing.

343 GUILTY SPARK: Splendid. Shall we? (Master Chief and 343 Guilty Spark walk up to the main panel.)

343 GUILTY SPARK: ...Unfortunately, my usefulness to this particular endeavor has come to an end. Protocol does not allow units with my classification to... perform a task as important as the reunification of the index with the core. That final step is reserved for you, Reclaimer. (Master Chief takes the index, and puts it into a hole in the console. Lights and holograms appear, and then fade.)

343 GUILTY SPARK: Odd, that wasn't supposed to happen. (Cortana suddenly appears over the console.)

CORTANA: Oh really?! (There is a flash of light, and 343 Guilty Spark is thrown back, and down to the ground.)

MASTER CHIEF: Cortana?

CORTANA: I've spent the last 12 hours cooped up in here, watching you toady about, helping that thing get set to slit our throats!

MASTER CHIEF: Hold on now, he's a friend.

CORTANA: Oh? I didn't realize. He's your pal, is he? Your chum? Do you have any idea what that bastard almost made you do?!

MASTER CHIEF: Yes... Activate Halo's defenses, and destroy the flood, which is why we brought the index to the control center.

CORTANA: You mean this? (Index appears in Cortana's hand.)

343 GUILTY SPARK: A construct?! In the core?! That is absolutely unacceptable!

CORTANA: Sod off!

343 GUILTY SPARK: What impertinence! I shall purge you at once!

CORTANA: You sure that's a good idea? (cortana teleports the index away.)

343 GUILTY SPARK: How, how... How dare you! I'll-

CORTANA: Do what? I have the index! You can just float and sputter!

MASTER CHIEF: Enough! The flood is spreading. If we activate Halo's defenses, we can wipe them out.

CORTANA: You have no idea how this ring works, do you? Why the forerunners built it? Halo doesn't kill flood, it kills their food. Humans, covenant, whatever. We're all equally edible. The only way to stop the flood is to starve them to death. And that's exactly what Halo is designed to do; wipe the galaxy clean of all sentient life. You don't believe me? Ask him. (Master Chief turns to 343 Guilty Spark)

MASTER CHIEF: Is this true?

343 GUILTY SPARK: (pauses) More or less. Technically, this installation's pulse has a maximum effective radius of twenty-five thousand light years. But, once the others follow suit, this galaxy will be quite devoid of life, or at least any life with sufficient biomass to sustain the flood. (pause) But you already knew that. I mean, how couldn't you?

CORTANA: Left out that little detail, did he?

343 GUILTY SPARK: We have followed outbreak containment procedure to the letter. You were with me each step of the way, as we managed this crisis.

CORTANA: Chief, I'm picking up movement!

343 GUILTY SPARK: Why would you hesitate to do what you have already done?

CORTANA: We need to go, right now. (Sentinels float up behind 343 Guilty Spark)

343 GUILTY SPARK: Last time, you asked me, if it was my choice, would I do it? Having considerable time to ponder your query, my answer has not changed. (Master Chief takes Cortana's disk out of the console, and inserts it into his head.)

343 GUILTY SPARK: There is no choice. We must activate the ring.

CORTANA: (whispers in Master Chief's head) Get us out of here!

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Posted by: Sought
and to Dr Mayhem 7... you cant be called a reclaimer if you already havent claimed once...


Or they know "When someone comes to reclaim, but haven't yet, they are the reclaimer."

We called Jesus the savior when he hadn't saved yet...

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yeah exactly.... we didnt call him the "Re-Savior"...

and plus he 343 doesnt call anyone else the reclaimer.. the brutes nor elites

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~THIS MAY LOOK LONG BUT IF YOU READ YOU MAY ACTUALLY LEARN SOMETHING~

Guys, if you know about fast traveling, near the speed of light, than you would know that time crawls when going that fast. For example, say i drove a ship 186,000 miles per hour(speed of light) to the nearest halo, on earth many years would have past. But in the ship at most it would've taken a week. I would have aged a week and everything. Soooooo, think about it, do you know everything that happened exactly 250 years ago. No. Neither would the humans in the year 2555 (whatever year it is). The book says they have had space travel for centuries. So i'm sure some type of human life went to a few galaxies, made contact with the flood, built the halo's, and are on their way back.(They could have been humans from the year 2554 as well.) Remember, it only feels like a few weeks for say 5 years. So they've probably been in space for a few years in their time. On earth centuries have past. Einstein proved this theory, the one about time dragging.
And the part about 343 mistaking MC as a forerunner, well, I'm sure when he said the suits were better he meant that they had the newest technology of suits. 343 only saw MC in his halo suit, not his halo 2 suit, so it could have easily been a ship with some spartans on it. Basically, unless Bungie makes a big twist, HUMANS ARE FORERUNNERS. Period. End of Story.
Any one who says they aren't, prove it.

P.S. worm holes make time drag too.


erm. Correction, if you travel in the speed of light for 100 earth years, time stand still for you, you don't age at all. As for space travel, humans use slipspace jumps in halo, it is like wormholes, teleporters. As for humans meet the flood and build the halos, how did they get back in time? The rings have been there 100,000 years, -blam!- Sapiens Sapiens are about 40,000 years old. Please try to be a little more specific

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actually another correction... time will NEVER stand still for the person of craft going the speed of light.. just other people going slower than him will be older upon his return

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What I'm trying to say is they could have done it in the year 2255 and none would know because they were battling flood and died. Also if you travel the speed of light time does pass, just very very slowly. Think about it, 186,000 miles per HOUR. That means if the halo is 4,464,000 miles away it would only take a day to get to. so time obviously has to pass.

And as for the Halo's being 100,000 years old, when you go through slip space or worm holes since time is frozen(Good example is Star Trek with their slip space) so there are possibilities of going forward or back in time. Remember when Ms. Keyes followed the covenant ship through slip space, well one of the marines said it was unstable and anything could happen (in lamence terms)

There you go.

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