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Subject: Why the AR is a great weapon
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Halo: Reach is the beginning of a new age for gaming.
It proves that developers can get away with punishing their players instead of fixing their game....and yet the fanboys will still sing praises to them.

-blam!- all of you fanboys!

Did you actually read it?

  • 02.17.2012 4:53 PM PDT

Thank god Mr E05 is here. This thread wasn't stupid enough yet.

  • 02.17.2012 4:54 PM PDT
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Posted by: MR E0S
Did you actually read it?


Yes, and it's very clear that you don't understand Halo, at all. You have to be trolling.

  • 02.17.2012 4:56 PM PDT
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Halo: Reach is the beginning of a new age for gaming.
It proves that developers can get away with punishing their players instead of fixing their game....and yet the fanboys will still sing praises to them.

-blam!- all of you fanboys!

Then tell me something. At what point, would you choose to pick up an AR?

Because in most cases, you'll have been killed long before you run out of ammo with the DMR, and thus spawn in with a new one with more ammo.

So, why even have the AR in the game at all, if you think no games should ever start with the AR?

Just remove the weapon then. It's taking up space.

Is that not your opinion?

[Edited on 02.17.2012 5:01 PM PST]

  • 02.17.2012 5:00 PM PDT
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Posted by: RC Clone
Nope. SouthPole isn't a person. He's the avatar of the force of tryhards everywhere. He stalks the web looking for retards to set straight. He can not be stopped by mere bans or thread locks for he shall rise anew.

The AR is a niche weapon. It puts you at an advantage when used in the right situation. ...That's what it does..

That's also why it should not be a spawning weapon.

  • 02.17.2012 5:03 PM PDT
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Halo: Reach is the beginning of a new age for gaming.
It proves that developers can get away with punishing their players instead of fixing their game....and yet the fanboys will still sing praises to them.

-blam!- all of you fanboys!

Halo:CE had one problem with it..

You know what it was?

It pretty much revolved around 1 weapon. The pistol.

If anything was to be fixed or changed about Halo, it was to try and create more variety between weapons being used.

All you people do, is keep perpetuating the problem onto another singular weapon.

It went from Pistol to BR to DMR.

Why do all the other weapons even exist? other than sniper, lasers and rockets..which technically, are the only other things that are worth picking up.

[Edited on 02.17.2012 5:05 PM PST]

  • 02.17.2012 5:04 PM PDT

Posted by: MR E0S
It pretty much revolved around 1 weapon. The pistol.
My god, did you even PLAY CE?

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Posted by: MR E0S
Halo:CE had one problem with it..

You know what it was?

It pretty much revolved around 1 weapon. The pistol.

If anything was to be fixed or changed about Halo, it was to try and create more variety between weapons being used.

All you people do, is keep perpetuating the problem onto another singular weapon.

It went from Pistol to BR to DMR.

Why do all the other weapons even exist, other than sniper and rocket which technically are the only other things that are worth picking up.


How was that a problem?????

Having 8 weapons with the same purpose is redundant and leads to having useless weapons.

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Posted by: MR E0S
It pretty much revolved around 1 weapon.
My god, have you even PLAYED Halo?


Fix'd

  • 02.17.2012 5:08 PM PDT


Posted by: MR E0S
Halo:CE had one problem with it..

You know what it was?

It pretty much revolved around 1 weapon. The pistol.

If anything was to be fixed or changed about Halo, it was to try and create more variety between weapons being used.

All you people do, is keep perpetuating the problem onto another singular weapon.

It went from Pistol to BR to DMR.

Why do all the other weapons even exist? other than sniper, lasers and rockets..which technically, are the only other things that are worth picking up.


So the shotgun, sword, hammer, grenade launcher, plasma launcher, focus rifle, plasma pistol aren't worth picking up? I find all of those weapons useful in certain situations.

Oh wait i forgot you don't know wtf you're talking about.

  • 02.17.2012 5:10 PM PDT
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Halo: Reach is the beginning of a new age for gaming.
It proves that developers can get away with punishing their players instead of fixing their game....and yet the fanboys will still sing praises to them.

-blam!- all of you fanboys!

Having one weapon that fills the role of ALL the other weapons in every situation.. (IE, pistol being used for long range and short range and dominating at both)

What's the point in that?
What's the point in starting people with that?

If anything.

It's not the AR that should be removed. its the DMR that should be removed from the game.

Because the DMR fills too many roles.

[Edited on 02.17.2012 5:13 PM PST]

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Nope. SouthPole isn't a person. He's the avatar of the force of tryhards everywhere. He stalks the web looking for retards to set straight. He can not be stopped by mere bans or thread locks for he shall rise anew.

Having more weapons for the sake of having weapons is stupid. What's even more stupid is forcing the player to spawn with one. Yes, people are actually using them, but then you have retarded gameplay.

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Posted by: MR E0S
Having one weapon that fills the role of ALL the other weapons in every situation.. (IE, pistol being used for long range and short range and dominating at both)

What's the point in that?
What's the point in starting people with that?


Power

Weapons

...

  • 02.17.2012 5:13 PM PDT
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Halo: Reach is the beginning of a new age for gaming.
It proves that developers can get away with punishing their players instead of fixing their game....and yet the fanboys will still sing praises to them.

-blam!- all of you fanboys!

Do you disagree with the fact that the pistol/BR/DMR was capable of dominating at every conceivable range?

Because they did.

In fact, with the little time I spent with Reach. There was absolutely nothing that made me go out of my way to replace my starting weapon... nothing.

I wouldn't even bother going after the Spartan Laser, because the time I would waste chasing that thing down...wouldn't be worth the time I could have spent just spamming the DMR at someone.

You need proof?
Look at my stats.
Look how much the DMR dominates my stats page compared to all the other weapons.

That why Halo got boring. Because it's pretty much nothing but DMR spam all day every day.




[Edited on 02.17.2012 5:24 PM PST]

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Posted by: MR E0S
Do you disagree with the fact that the pistol/BR/DMR was capable of dominating at every conceivable range?

Because they did.

In fact, with the little time I spent with Reach. There was absolutely nothing that made me go out of my way to replace my starting weapon... nothing.

I wouldn't even bother going after the Spartan Laser, because the time I would waste chasing that thing down...wouldn't be worth the time I could have spent just spamming the DMR at someone.


Okay, one more time...

Power

Weapons

The BR/DMR does not beat the sniper in Long Range, and they sure as hell don't beat the Shotgun or Sword in CQC.

I can't believe we're having this conversation.

  • 02.17.2012 5:22 PM PDT

The pistol did not dominate at all ranges. AR/PR/Shotty all outclassed the pistol in close range. Sniper outclassed it in long ranges.

The only way the BR/DMR "dominate" most ranges is because other weapons do not fill their niche properly. Example, the AR is weak as hell, so the BR or DMR beat it the vast majority of the time in the AR's niche.

EDIT: If other weapons were not so weak and useless there would not be as much domination from either the BR or the DMR.

[Edited on 02.17.2012 5:29 PM PST]

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Halo: Reach is the beginning of a new age for gaming.
It proves that developers can get away with punishing their players instead of fixing their game....and yet the fanboys will still sing praises to them.

-blam!- all of you fanboys!

The DMR can beat the sniper.

That's where you're wrong.

And it can also beat the sword.

You may have a point as far as shotgun is concerned. But holy -blam!-. The shotgun has only one range that it dominates...so I don't even know why you bring it up.

Shotgun fills its role perfectly and doesn't stray outside it's intended purpose. Shotgun doesn't try to be every weapon.

The DMR does.

The AR doesn't try to match ...every weapon.

The DMR does.

Notice where I'm going with this.

You have all these weapons, that fill a purpose and do well at that purpose and no other.

Then you have this 'All-in-one' weapon..

Which weapon do you think does more damage to the I guess you could say "Golden Triangle" or "Rock-Paper-Scissors" gameplay?

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Posted by: RC Clone
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That's the -blam!- point...

It can be used in every situation, but it is not the best weapon in every situation.

This conversation is pointless because you clearly have no idea what you're talking about.

  • 02.17.2012 5:31 PM PDT
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Halo: Reach is the beginning of a new age for gaming.
It proves that developers can get away with punishing their players instead of fixing their game....and yet the fanboys will still sing praises to them.

-blam!- all of you fanboys!

And I think it is the best weapon in every situation.

Because I can kill people in CQC with it when they have a weapon specifically designed to be a CQC weapon.

Same for long range.

  • 02.17.2012 5:36 PM PDT

Posted by: MR E0S
The DMR can beat the sniper.
Yeah, no.
And it can also beat the sword.In the swords range? No.
You may have a point as far as shotgun is concerned. But holy -blam!-. The shotgun has only one range that it dominates...so I don't even know why you bring it up.Ironic, since you brought up the sword ^^^
Shotgun fills its role perfectly and doesn't stray outside it's intended purpose. Shotgun doesn't try to be every weapon. Because the shotgun works properly in it's intended range. Does the AR? No, it doesn't.
The AR doesn't try to match ...every weapon.No -blam!-, it's close range weapon.
The DMR does.Because other weapons don't work in their range correctly.
You have all these weapons, that fill a purpose and do well at that purpose and no other.Excluding PW's, no other weapon properly fill theirs role, because the DMR and NR can beat it (although the pistol does have a slight advantage over the DMR in close range)

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Posted by: MR E0S
And I think it is the best weapon in every situation.

Because I can kill people in CQC with it when they have a weapon specifically designed to be a CQC weapon.

Same for long range.


Because you were better. Which I can't really believe because you're -blam!- horrible.

Having niche and power weapons should not give you an instant win. It gives you an advantage. Which is how it should work in a game where everyone spawns with the same weapon.

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Posted by: MR E0S
If you were to listen to people like that retard Soutpole...
You'd have to ask yourself this ?

Why even have the AR in the game at all then?
Because if you don't start matches with an AR...who in their right mind is actually going to go out of their way to pick one up, except as a VERY LAST RESORT.

I'd rather have the incentive to make people find better weapons instead of starting everyone with the best weapon.

And your argument based on the idea that ...
" it makes people spawning in at a disadvantage"
Only holds so much weight.

Because if there is only 1 DMR on the map. How much damage is that one guy with a DMR going to do against an entire team with AR's.

Depends on the team.

That argument is also relative to saying that...maybe we should just start everyone with DMR and SNIPERS on every game.....just cut to the chase.

Gameplay wise. It's more logical to start people off weak, too give them incentives to MOVE AROUND THE MAP to find better weapons.

Other wise you create gametypes where people just don't move. Because there is no incentive for it other than to chase down a kill.

One of Halo's core gameplay elements happens to involve the idea of creating a foot-race for weapons....
Duh!

I'd go so far as to say that EVERY GAMETYPE should be like this.
Start with nothing but an AR.
No grenades, no seconadary weapons.
You want a power weapon.. go get it!


Bro, the AR is in the game as a starting weapon because 75% of the people that play MM have thumbs enough to charge, spray and bash for the kill. That's it. That's all. It's a noob weapon, for the thumbless kids that play this game and wind up on my team 24/7 when I go into Squad by myself. lol

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This completely contradicts the thread I made last week.

  • 02.17.2012 6:56 PM PDT

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Goat was famous. Irie was infamous. Gh0st was FaMaS.

My stats in Halol 4

Typical Waypoint post.
no it's "its got to go" you wouldn't say the "it is got to go" would you?

Pistol kills in 2 seconds.

AR kills in 2.8

Obviously, you're wrong.

  • 02.17.2012 8:12 PM PDT

i completely agree with you OP

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