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The 343 forums suck. They're full of retarded kids and mods who got butthurt in the B.net forums for being told that they're bad.

The melee should be reduced to 75%. This stops double-pummels as well as AR-rushers.

  • 02.18.2012 11:43 AM PDT

I am from Mars, that is why I wear red and was issued the MJOLNIR Powered Assault Armor/M variant helmet, was also issued the experimental version of the Camo unit, that is why i have the Recon shoulder. I excel at CQB, hence the CQC shoulder. I have trained extensively with operation of vehicles therefore the armor on my left side is more substantial and the GPS navigator. the ODST chest is because I was embedded with a unit from the 105TH for 7 SpecOP missions, I have a great respect for them

melee needs to be a two hit kill to effective, i am oppose to this after playing anniversary, it makes no sense to have the melee count as much as a single punch.

Posted by: B Rye
The melee should be reduced to 75%. This stops double-pummels as well as AR-rushers.

  • 02.18.2012 5:26 PM PDT

B.Davies

yes cqb is essential to halo altogether because if the shotguns range was father it would be like the magnum, the sword is a great weapon for the covenant in a invasion match on spire or too protect the flag at base in hemmorage when behind a corner not dumb luck or idiotic rewards it takes skill to weild the sword, it takes skill to gain a headshot, it takes skill for almost any kill, unless its a ghost splatter then there just fails,the TU playlist that revovels around the dmr is because it is the most powerfful midranged weapon,like in halo combat evolved it was the magnum because of its overpowereeed ammo. =] take into acccount itss my opion make your own oppion guys i did, PEACE

  • 02.18.2012 7:42 PM PDT


Posted by: DARKSANITY0909
The funny thing i have been noticing on about ALL MLG reach threads is there all crying about it being a slow paced game... NO -blam!-! The slow paced gameplay is what entitles you to PACE YOUR MOTHER -blam!- SHOTS. And your crying that someone actually has the chance to run away when getting shot. If TU passes its honestly going to be just ANOTHER call of duty! EASY kills FAST paced games where no one THINKS they just shoot. Think about what your saying. Sincerely think DONT BRUSH THIS POST OFF YOUR SHOUDLERS. Think about all the aspects of TU and you WILL realize that its AWFUL halo reach used to reward the good players and punish the stupid. Well now all the good players and tactical players are just as good as the people that cant pace one shot. If TU passes you wont see me on anymore.


Thought OP was being serious until I saw this post.

  • 02.18.2012 7:45 PM PDT
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Hey, uh, if you like vs threads, then check out this little group right here, if you have the time. It's pretty fun, just hop right in.

Of course it is; Halo's involved every range of combat, in almost all of its forms, from the beginning. Not even Reach changed that.

  • 02.18.2012 7:47 PM PDT

Funny... You vs. me rumble pit http://www.bungie.net/stats/reach/careerstats/weapons.aspx?pl ayer=HagbarChaline&vc=3&pf=101&compare=Lightspeed Flash

Sorry sir but you and your kind are wrong. If you are shooting someone and they rush in then you need to melee them before they melee you. You still have an opportunity to win the fight. It's not anyone fault that you only know how to shoot your dmr and not maneuver. That's closed quarters action. If you havn't killed them by then its your fault. So YOU are wrong. HaloBeeKay I pulled your stats in rumble pit and I know a booster when I see one your not even worth comparing to.

It's mind numbing how this conversation has digressed. Oh and go ahead quote everything I say your opinions mean slightly less to me than a hole in the wall. I play rumble pit and it was changed without a vote. That's something I never would have done to anyone's playlist. The difference between my and your kind is simple.

1. you don't understand the game nearly as well as you think you do. It's more than a first person shooter. Or at least it was.

2. you don't care how the update effects everyone else because you have things your way. This makes you all very selfish and immature. We are all fans of the game and we never wanted anything taken away from you.

I could care less what you say in the post. I should really stop gracing you children with my rapport but I find someone needs to have a voice in here for those of us who see the value in longer interactions between players and the full dynamic of what the ORIGINAL MAKERS SAW THE GAME AS. Now go kiss 343s BLAMMIDY

  • 02.20.2012 6:30 PM PDT

Forget it man, and get with the countdown. Shake this square world and blast off for Kicksville.

Reach host ranking algorithm: (a*quit_percentage + b*isMexican + c*(1/KDR) + d*hasGuest) * 100
where a > b = d > c

Posted by: HagbarChaline
Funny... You vs. me rumble pit http://www.bungie.net/stats/reach/careerstats/weapons.aspx?pl ayer=HagbarChaline&vc=3&pf=101&compare=Lightspeed Flash

For crying out loud, stop stat-checking people. You're bad at the game, end of story. Stop embarrassing yourself.

HaloBeeKay I pulled your stats in rumble pit and I know a booster when I see one your not even worth comparing to.
Rofl. Everyone better than the OP = booster, I bet. There's a lot of boosters.

Oh and go ahead quote everything I say your opinions mean slightly less to me than a hole in the wall.
That's fine, because your dismal failures at producing a competent argument mean precious little to us.

2. you don't care how the update effects everyone else because you have things your way. This makes you all very selfish and immature.
Bemusingly, you used to have things your way (a game mechanic catering to the lowest common denominator of skill - i.e., a crutch for bad players who can't aim) and I don't recall you around here caring about the concerns of more skilled players.

So guess what, karma.

  • 02.20.2012 6:43 PM PDT

@ Sentox6 Really? I think the argument has been articulated fairly well.

The designers of the game, Bungie, spent countless hours and dollars making the game a certain way. They are the original creators of the game and I agree with them not you and not the changes that the recent stewards 343 have implemented. I enjoy playing Halo Reach not Call of Duty.

TU requires less precision and timing. To speak only of your precocious DMR. The other aspects of the game it destroy you could never understand at your level.


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Bemusingly, you used to have things your way (a game mechanic catering to the lowest common denominator of skill - i.e., a crutch for bad players who can't aim) and I don't recall you around here caring about the concerns of more skilled players."


This sort of thing just makes me want to laugh and cry at the same time. You really do think it makes the game more skillful I know. Well your right about one thing.

There are more skilled players out there than me. Your just not one of them.

http://www.bungie.net/stats/reach/careerstats/weapons.aspx?pl ayer=HagbarChaline&vc=3&pf=101&compare=Sentox6

  • 02.20.2012 6:59 PM PDT

Forget it man, and get with the countdown. Shake this square world and blast off for Kicksville.

Reach host ranking algorithm: (a*quit_percentage + b*isMexican + c*(1/KDR) + d*hasGuest) * 100
where a > b = d > c

Posted by: HagbarChaline
TU requires less precision and timing. To speak only of your precocious DMR. The other aspects of the game it destroy you could never understand at your level.

I've seen my DMR called many things, but never has it been accused of being unusually apt for its age.

That someone who only wins 50% of his games and has sword and melee as his top two ToDs is evening talking about "levels" is so hilarious I don't have the words for it. I now remove the crown from Plunderfuq and bestow it upon you.

There are more skilled players out there than me. Your just not one of them.
I don't say this often, because I'm not good at this game, but I am definitively better than you at Reach, by a significant margin.

Also, lrn2english.

Edit: for the lulz...
Posted by: HagbarChaline
The greatest fun close quarters was dodging most of your DMR bullets and getting close for the double melee, which most DMR biggies never figured out how to work and could never come close to maneuvering this skillfully.


[Edited on 02.21.2012 1:15 AM PST]

  • 02.21.2012 1:11 AM PDT
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Honestly I'm not going to read all of that....

There should be some CQC but not made where its relied upon. Theres no reason someone should be able to run a good distance, while getting shot at and double melee someone in a FPS.


Also "CQC" doesn't necessarily mean beatdowns, simply fighting near one another could classify as CQC. Which is quite often in Halo, so I'd say its "essential".

  • 02.21.2012 2:10 AM PDT

@Sentox6 "I don't say this often, because I'm not good at this game" The only intelligent/accurate thing that has come out of this guys mouth!

Apparently your not good at math either. In rumble pit the measure is more than win or lose because you have more than 1st and second place. I wouldn't expect you to understand that, you have a very narrow view of the game like most TU supporters. At least you realize your not good at it though and that's a start.

This is a perfect representation of the way this game has been influenced unfairly. A loud mouth with no real appreciation for the game but big on forum banter can get on here and whine and criticize someones opinion all day long. a perfect candidate for trolling the forums.

Your not good at the game by your own admission which is easy enough to see by your stats yet like the other sad fellows posting in here you think you know something more about the game than the creators or fans.

I'll say this again more thoroughly this time.

Bungie spent many man hours researching and designing the game.
The production of this game was a result of all the money playing time and inspiration that went into creating it. We agree with the CREATORS of the game and compliment them on their original design. This is the game that we purchased. This is why we purchased Halo Reach not COD.

TU update drastically alters the game play. It is now even EASIER for us to beat you. We don't enjoy this as much because unlike supporters of TU we realize the dynamic of the game has been lessened and the overall competition will suffer.



[Edited on 02.21.2012 4:45 AM PST]

  • 02.21.2012 4:39 AM PDT

Forget it man, and get with the countdown. Shake this square world and blast off for Kicksville.

Reach host ranking algorithm: (a*quit_percentage + b*isMexican + c*(1/KDR) + d*hasGuest) * 100
where a > b = d > c

Posted by: HagbarChaline
In rumble pit the measure is more than win or lose because you have more than 1st and second place.

Hahahaha. This just gets better and better.

True, Rumble Pit has three divisions for the losers instead of one. I don't really give a flying -blam!- which of those divisions you turn up in, though.

You win about 50% of your games in the playlist you seem to care about, and your K/D is awful despite your sword whoring. If you're good at Rumble Pit, your stats look like this. As far as Team Slayer is concerned, which you've played a fair bit of, you're -blam!- awful at that too.

I can understand why you're upset, though. Your K/D, which is bad enough, is entirely built on abusing Sword-sprinting. If I was reliant on one cheap tactic for my entire gameplay strategy, I'd get unnerved when the developers messed with it too.

Frankly, I think your Halo 3 stats demonstrate just how good you were without being able to abuse sprint to reduce engagements to a low-skill CQC encounter.

Your not good at the game by your own admission which is easy enough to see by your stats yet like the other sad fellows posting in here you think you know something more about the game than the creators or fans.
This one paragraph is so fallacious I'm not even sure where to begin.

The creators of the game are not perfect, omniscient deities. I'm not even sure what qualifies as a fan (apparently I'm not one?), but if you're referring to people more interested in Halo lore, or just people irrationally attached to a franchise label, then their opinion on gameplay mechanics hardly carries any great weight.

Bungie spent many man hours researching and designing the game.
The production of this game was a result of all the money playing time and inspiration that went into creating it. We agree with the CREATORS of the game and compliment them on their original design. This is the game that we purchased. This is why we purchased Halo Reach not COD.

This is the most -blam!- -blam!-brained thing you've said yet. I, and a lot of other people, purchased Halo: Reach because we expected it to play like Halo. Instead we got a game that had been changed from its predecessors with the intention of reducing the skill gap.

Get this through your head: with a 1.4 K/D and a 50% win rate you're not beating anyone good.

I'm starting to think you're actually trolling. For one, if you were actually deployed to Iraq (I have my doubts, but still) then you can't be completely functionally retarded. And no person with an iota of sense and your stats would believe that they're at the "higher end of the skill spectrum".

...actually, I'm impressed. Admittedly this level of stupidity wouldn't have worked on most forums. Here, I would actually believe that someone could be this delusional. Then I read statements like:
Know that Hagbar has nothing against you. In fact I admire your love of the game. You must realize though that the game has an incredible dynamic that includes all weapons and load outs. This game would never be what it is was without us who have perfected our skill in other areas. We enhance the dynamic. You and the game are at a serious loss without us and one day I hope you realize that.
So touche. I got trolled. Well done.

  • 02.21.2012 11:20 AM PDT

lol.. I couldn't even get through your thread I was laughing so hard. Uhm.. yeah I made you mad mad mad and your rant was wonderful.
I'm just below Naded in the rumble leader board. Top 50 in the world. I was hoping I wouldn't have to point that out. His stats are incredibly sic by the way which is the opposite of yours but you already said your not good and I agree with you.
Your precious DMR is your primary weapon, like most TU fanatics, at 2.05 KD my Primary as you've pointed out more than once, the sword, is more than 200% greater than your DMR KD in your best playlist. Now I'm done comparing your weak blam stats to mine it makes me feel dirty.

Uhm the rest of what you said is so mind numbingly retarded that the left half of my body has seized up trying to read it and some brain fluid just began leaking from my right nostril so I'm afraid I'm unable to get through it all. Get bent and have a nice day son!


[Edited on 02.21.2012 12:37 PM PST]

  • 02.21.2012 12:36 PM PDT

Forget it man, and get with the countdown. Shake this square world and blast off for Kicksville.

Reach host ranking algorithm: (a*quit_percentage + b*isMexican + c*(1/KDR) + d*hasGuest) * 100
where a > b = d > c

Posted by: HagbarChaline
I'm just below Naded in the rumble leader board. Top 50 in the world.

Trolololol.

As for the rest, I am disappointed. I'm freely admitting that you had me going hook, line, and sinker for your trolling at first, but now you're just trying downright banal stuff :|

Edit: if you improved your English beyond preschool level that would make your trolling attempts more effective. Just a friendly tip. Also, work on your math: your percentage estimate is wrong.

[Edited on 02.21.2012 1:10 PM PST]

  • 02.21.2012 1:06 PM PDT

Hi.

Bleed through is amazing.

Adapt to 10 years of bleed through in Halo.

  • 02.21.2012 2:22 PM PDT

@Sentox6

O.K. man I get it. You are in love with me. I can understand that. Hagbar possesses a certain animal quality that makes it hard for even those "curious" guys to resist. I didn't realize it fully until you sent me that lengthy PM. Really man that was just gross and made me blush. That stuff you said you can do with candy apples is really not my style.

Make sure you wear protection when trying those kinda things. You know, to prevent the spread of disease and stuff.

  • 02.21.2012 2:39 PM PDT

Forget it man, and get with the countdown. Shake this square world and blast off for Kicksville.

Reach host ranking algorithm: (a*quit_percentage + b*isMexican + c*(1/KDR) + d*hasGuest) * 100
where a > b = d > c

@TheMagneticHagbar

You should post the PM here. Everyone deserves to know the depth of my love... nay, raw lust for you.

  • 02.21.2012 2:42 PM PDT

Ohai, I'm Loscocco (pronounced Loss-cocoa). I'm a college student (computer science major), 3D animator, and long-time Halo player.

Why is anyone actually trying to argue with the OP? It's not like it will matter; he will just keep ignoring whatever you say to continue spewing mindless dribble about how he thinks he is good and should be running the playlists.

  • 02.21.2012 2:54 PM PDT

Forget it man, and get with the countdown. Shake this square world and blast off for Kicksville.

Reach host ranking algorithm: (a*quit_percentage + b*isMexican + c*(1/KDR) + d*hasGuest) * 100
where a > b = d > c

Posted by: Mikelp_1
Why is anyone actually trying to argue with the OP? It's not like it will matter; he will just keep ignoring whatever you say to continue spewing mindless dribble about how he thinks he is good and should be running the playlists.

I'm a sucker for punishment.

  • 02.21.2012 2:59 PM PDT


Posted by: Mikelp_1

[quote] "Do you think dying children is a good thing?"

Of course no one (...that isn't sadistic) is going to say "yes. I love when children die," so basing those results on whether or not those people would support the cause is completely inapplicable.


Now Mike you know after the other days big news break you really should stop talking about children while he wasn't busy trolling forums

[Edited on 02.21.2012 3:46 PM PST]

  • 02.21.2012 3:18 PM PDT

The Halo series was my first and favorite FPS series.
I enjoy most games throughout all systems despite what some people say.

Oh, and on the forums, I tell it like it is, like it or not.

Topic is over thought. Close quarters is never necessary. However, on some stages, it does more good than harm.

  • 02.21.2012 4:34 PM PDT
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Posted by: Horse Repairman
RC RuNz the internet. Like the superintendent.

Posted by: SouthPoIe
Clone is an internet God.

Posted by: DerpRoids
RC Clone is the anti-thesis of a lurker.

lol

  • 02.23.2012 5:56 PM PDT
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Posted by: An average gamer
So basically you're saying they should remove bleedthrough.

I agree, but all that text isn't really necessary to get that point across. Bleedthrough just sucks and dumbs down the game.
no keep bleedthrough just dont make it headshot weapons only.

  • 02.23.2012 8:32 PM PDT

Posted by: aBlueBookshelf
Goat was famous. Irie was infamous. Gh0st was FaMaS.

My stats in Halol 4

Typical Waypoint post.
no it's "its got to go" you wouldn't say the "it is got to go" would you?

I understand that it's hard for you to figure out how to aim without spazzing out like an autistic child who just saw his first episode of Pokemon, but to the majority of Reach players, punching is about as essential as cigarettes.

  • 02.23.2012 8:33 PM PDT

Leon > HUNK > Wesker > Ada > Jill > Claire > Chris

I think they should have updated MLG and MLG only. Leave the regular playlists to Vanilla Reach considering how the TU implies if you don't use a precision weapon, then you are doing it wrong.

  • 02.23.2012 8:45 PM PDT

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