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Subject: Who would Covenant or Empire

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Poll: Who would Covenant or Empire  [closed]
Covenant:  53%
(19 Votes)
Empire:  47%
(17 Votes)
Total Votes: 36

Who would the covenant in halo or Empire from star wars?

  • 02.17.2012 10:04 AM PDT

Empire. They can destroy entire planets.

  • 02.17.2012 10:11 AM PDT

Empire got the force! and ships magnitudes bigger then the covenant, but yeah the death star, ASSUMING the rebels didn't blow it up yet... or the second one.

  • 02.17.2012 10:18 AM PDT

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The empire hasn't exactly figured out aiming down the sights or using smart-linked scopes yet...

  • 02.17.2012 10:21 AM PDT

I think the Covenant is a pretty cool guy. He kills humans and doesn't afraid of anything.

  • 02.17.2012 10:27 AM PDT

This makes no sense.

  • 02.17.2012 10:49 AM PDT
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Posted by: chotato
smart, interesting, seems out of place.


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Covenant. I'd like to see the Imperial army fight off 2,000 plus Grunts at a time, not to mention the fact that Sangheili and Brutes have personal shielding, can smash a tank with their bare hands, and could probably snap a Stormtrooper in half.

  • 02.17.2012 10:57 AM PDT

"I don't care if it's God's own anti-Son of a -blam!- Machine or a giant hula-hoop!"

Covenant. Shielding is better than no shielding.

  • 02.17.2012 11:03 AM PDT

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This, again?

  • 02.17.2012 11:59 AM PDT

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Pahh an army of soldiers who can not shoot versus, a grunt.

  • 02.17.2012 12:05 PM PDT

Empire rapestomps. One Imperial Star Destroyer has more firepower than the entire covenant navy put together, not to mention that there are 5 times as many Imperial Star Destroyers alone than there is ships in the Covenant navy at it's peak.

As for ground combat, I believe the Imperial Army is the largest group of soldiers in mainstream sci-fi. With tens of trillions of troops and hundreds of billions of vehicles, they can outgun even the Imperial Guard from 40k. That doesn't even include the billions of Stormtroopers, the trillions of Imperial Navy personnel, and various other sects such as Dark Jedi and the Sith Lords.

  • 03.08.2012 7:26 PM PDT

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Wow, lots of Star Wars fans here. Anyways, I am pretty sure that 4 Covenant Capital Ships like the Long Night of Solace (A Supercarrier) with The Defense Fleet of High Charity (The Biggest Covenant Fleet ever seen) can overpower The Death Star and its defenses.

[Edited on 03.08.2012 7:39 PM PST]

  • 03.08.2012 7:39 PM PDT
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Posted by: greatestSheriff
Wow, lots of Star Wars fans here. Anyways, I am pretty sure that 4 Covenant Capital Ships like the Long Night of Solace (A Supercarrier) with The Defense Fleet of High Charity (The Biggest Covenant Fleet ever seen) can overpower The Death Star and its defenses.


You kidding, right? You have to be kidding.

...unless we factor in the Keyship. Before it's disarmament.

  • 03.08.2012 7:44 PM PDT

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Posted by: greatestSheriff
Wow, lots of Star Wars fans here. Anyways, I am pretty sure that 4 Covenant Capital Ships like the Long Night of Solace (A Supercarrier) with The Defense Fleet of High Charity (The Biggest Covenant Fleet ever seen) can overpower The Death Star and its defenses.


You kidding, right? You have to be kidding.

...unless we factor in the Keyship. Before it's disarmament.


I'm going with the covantant... that is until the Empire fix the HOLE problem with the death star.

[Edited on 03.08.2012 7:54 PM PST]

  • 03.08.2012 7:52 PM PDT
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Posted by: SC Matt Klassen

Posted by: greatestSheriff
Wow, lots of Star Wars fans here. Anyways, I am pretty sure that 4 Covenant Capital Ships like the Long Night of Solace (A Supercarrier) with The Defense Fleet of High Charity (The Biggest Covenant Fleet ever seen) can overpower The Death Star and its defenses.


You kidding, right? You have to be kidding.

...unless we factor in the Keyship. Before it's disarmament.


I'm going with the covantant... that is until the Empire fix the HOLE problem with the death star.

The problem will be taking down the shields in the first place. Seeing as how the Covenant would probably genocide the Ewoks in their first encounter, they wouldn't have the help of the little furry munchkins in their assault on the shield generator, and the Covenant haven't exactly been known for being sneaky.

  • 03.08.2012 7:58 PM PDT

"I may not be perfect, but always been true."

I wonder how well High Charity would fare shield wise against the Death Star, I mean, it must have stronger shields than the unyielding hierophant and that things shields were said to resist the collision of a small moon, so we can just wonder.

  • 03.08.2012 8:02 PM PDT

The Death Star has multiple overlapping planetary shielding devices. But before we get into that, let's look at an Imperial Star Destroyer's (ISD) stats. The shielding is capable of tanking over 2 petatons of energy per second, and it's main armament can dole out well over 100 teratons of firepower per volley. I'm fairly certain that Covenant shields fail after 1 kiloton of energy, which I also read is the yield of their ship-ship plasma cannons.

I also remember seeing that the Covenant fleet at it's peak had something along the lines of 2.5-5 thousand ships. If each had 10 plasma cannons, that's 50,000 kt of energy per volley of every ship. That literally isn't even .0001% of what an ISD can tank effortlessly.


And again, along the lines of ground combat, there really isn't a way to deal with an army tens of trillions strong, augmented by insanely OP combat units like Dark Troopers and Dark Jedi.

  • 03.08.2012 8:08 PM PDT
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Posted by: Chopsticks08
This makes no sense.

OP: who would win or lose?

  • 03.08.2012 8:12 PM PDT

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Posted by: MikeM1K30
The Death Star has multiple overlapping planetary shielding devices. But before we get into that, let's look at an Imperial Star Destroyer's (ISD) stats. The shielding is capable of tanking over 2 petatons of energy per second, and it's main armament can dole out well over 100 teratons of firepower per volley. I'm fairly certain that Covenant shields fail after 1 kiloton of energy, which I also read is the yield of their ship-ship plasma cannons.

I also remember seeing that the Covenant fleet at it's peak had something along the lines of 2.5-5 thousand ships. If each had 10 plasma cannons, that's 50,000 kt of energy per volley of every ship. That literally isn't even .0001% of what an ISD can tank effortlessly.


And again, along the lines of ground combat, there really isn't a way to deal with an army tens of trillions strong, augmented by insanely OP combat units like Dark Troopers and Dark Jedi.


Lol, Covenant shields don't take 1 kiloton nor do they dish that.

It takes at least 3 MAC shots and a multitude of Archer shields to lower their shields. Most MAC cannons are 64 kilotons per hit, so yeah.

and their torpedos are in the megatons range.

  • 03.08.2012 8:14 PM PDT
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Posted by: goldhawk
We should know better, because we are better.

This deserves a Vlad Tepes award. This is not even close to being fair. The Empire can wipe the floor with the Covenant.

  • 03.08.2012 8:19 PM PDT

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Posted by: SC Matt Klassen

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Posted by: greatestSheriff
Wow, lots of Star Wars fans here. Anyways, I am pretty sure that 4 Covenant Capital Ships like the Long Night of Solace (A Supercarrier) with The Defense Fleet of High Charity (The Biggest Covenant Fleet ever seen) can overpower The Death Star and its defenses.


You kidding, right? You have to be kidding.

...unless we factor in the Keyship. Before it's disarmament.


I'm going with the covantant... that is until the Empire fix the HOLE problem with the death star.

The problem will be taking down the shields in the first place. Seeing as how the Covenant would probably genocide the Ewoks in their first encounter, they wouldn't have the help of the little furry munchkins in their assault on the shield generator, and the Covenant haven't exactly been known for being sneaky.


True, without the Ewoks it would be tough.

  • 03.08.2012 8:22 PM PDT

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Posted by: Xd00999
This deserves a Vlad Tepes award. This is not even close to being fair. The Empire can wipe the floor with the Covenant.


If the rebels could defeat them. Couldn't anything? I mean I guess the covenant doesn't have the force though.

[Edited on 03.08.2012 8:24 PM PST]

  • 03.08.2012 8:23 PM PDT

"I may not be perfect, but always been true."

Considering how the Covenant is not from that Universe, The Force would probably not affect them.

  • 03.08.2012 8:26 PM PDT
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Posted by: MikeM1K30
Covenant shields fail after 1 kiloton of energy, which I also read is the yield of their ship-ship plasma cannons.

wut

If this is true a single S1 Goa'uld Ha'tak could go rampaging through the entire Covenant armada.

And it would be laughable when they go up against UNSC ships, which are VERY nuke missile happy and carry 64kt MACs as standard loadout.

[Edited on 03.08.2012 8:29 PM PST]

  • 03.08.2012 8:27 PM PDT

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Posted by: MikeM1K30
The Death Star has multiple overlapping planetary shielding devices. But before we get into that, let's look at an Imperial Star Destroyer's (ISD) stats. The shielding is capable of tanking over 2 petatons of energy per second, and it's main armament can dole out well over 100 teratons of firepower per volley. I'm fairly certain that Covenant shields fail after 1 kiloton of energy, which I also read is the yield of their ship-ship plasma cannons.

I also remember seeing that the Covenant fleet at it's peak had something along the lines of 2.5-5 thousand ships. If each had 10 plasma cannons, that's 50,000 kt of energy per volley of every ship. That literally isn't even .0001% of what an ISD can tank effortlessly.


For now, Empire roflstomps the Covenant easily.

However, your information is severely incorrect on many parts including calculations. In other words, you're a moron.

First Part:

Source for that? I'm pretty sure that SD is nowhere in teratons range, only in gigatons range in proper usage of reactors. However, a single SD can dish out over 860 teratons BY diverting ALL OF ITS power from reactor which it means that everything will be slightly powered down, including turning off shields for increased firepower. Fun fact: Each Turbolasers FIRES several hundred megatons to low digit gigatons per second.

Second part: Once again, you're a moron. UNSC's standard MAC travels at 30,000 km/s, the slug weights about 600 tons. Guess what? It means that you gotta use Ke formula for this. Ke= 1/2(mass x velocity)^2

Which, it translates that UNSC's standard MAC is calibrated to be 64.5 kilotons (as lowest tier so far). Which... it takes three MAC shots to down a single covenant shields. Shields in Covenant VARY widely, due to size and class of ships. Let's use this example: 3 MAC shots = 192 kilotons against a Battle-cruiser.

And third part:

Wrong on plasma cannon yields, bub. It's actually in reasonable range of low digit megatons to mid level megatons.

So, I would strongly recommend you to cease and decease the action of spreading idiotic information that has no sources and extremely flawed to everyone else.

However, I can agree that Empire wins against Covenant. I'm just pointing out that you are wrong on every aspect on Halo information on ships and also calculations as well.

  • 03.08.2012 8:31 PM PDT

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