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I loved the needler in CE and in H2 it kind of sucks.

  • 05.20.2006 2:05 PM PDT
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rilly? i thot it sucked in CE but better in 2

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Posted by: freddy twotimes
I loved the needler in CE and in H2 it kind of sucks.
I think you just suck with it. In Halo2 it doesn't take as many needles to blow someone up, and the duel weilding is great. You just gotta catch your enemy off gaurd. But it will probably be a diffrent needler in halo 3 a new improved one, neither the one in CE or halo 2, a better, more deadly weapon.

  • 05.20.2006 2:08 PM PDT
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Then what were you? High?

It's very underpowered in both games, but paradoxically, satisfying to use in H:CE due to the awesome sound effects, and great looking explosion. In H2 it's even worse due to weakened needles, a lethargic rate of fire, and even more reduced homing. And it's not satisfying.

It needs a significant boost.

  • 05.20.2006 2:09 PM PDT
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Then what were you? High?

It's very underpowered in both games, but paradoxically, satisfying to use in H:CE due to the awesome sound effects, and great looking explosion. In H2 it's even worse due to weakened needles, a lethargic rate of fire, and even more reduced homing. And it's not satisfying.

It needs a significant boost.
No it's easier to use in 2, it doesn't take as many needles.

A new diffrent needler should be in 2, like a Needler octa-shot, where it is designed to shot 8 rounds(sufficient for an explosion), at the same time at a target, kinda like a shotgun, but deadlier. Plus you wouldn't need host to use this "pink shotgun".

  • 05.20.2006 2:12 PM PDT
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I agree. Even the sound feels weaker in H2. And I <3 the needler.

  • 05.20.2006 3:17 PM PDT
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Posted by: freddy twotimes
I loved the needler in CE and in H2 it kind of sucks.


I distinctly remember Bungie saying that the needler was made stronger in h2 on purpose.

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  • 05.20.2006 3:19 PM PDT
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It was still piddly, though, een when dual-wielded. Which is a pity, as the Needler was the most origional and interesting weapon in both games...

  • 05.20.2006 4:19 PM PDT

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I think if you made it too strong, it would dominate. Come on, if you make it stronger, its like a super weapon. Guided mini exploding rockets?!

  • 05.20.2006 4:29 PM PDT
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Needles rox

  • 05.20.2006 4:42 PM PDT
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I'm gonna have to say the needler in H2 was far superior to the H:CE one. I never used the damn thing in H:DE, but in H2, I certainly don't mind using it in single player or multiplayer. Plus the duel wielded needlers, can be a real killer if done correct. I hope Bungie does not change the needler mechanics as some have suggested. If they want to balance it in some fashion, whatever, that's fine...but no "pink shotgun"!!!

  • 05.20.2006 4:48 PM PDT

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way worse in halo 2. i remember only using one in halo: ce and it was a force. when was the last time you saw someone using one needler and actually putting up a fight in halo 2?

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  • 05.20.2006 5:06 PM PDT
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It had a pretty decent explosive/destructive force in both games, although in Halo 2 (with the inclusion of dual wielding + increased fire rate), it was more of a 'shock and awe' weapon.

Unload on your enemy, confuse him as he gets hit and blasted away, then run off and reload. Not very good for successive kills in MP though!

  • 05.20.2006 5:08 PM PDT
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i loved the needler in CE, i could go through whole levels with it, now its trash unless duel weilded. i want it the original way

  • 05.20.2006 5:15 PM PDT
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IMO, the needler was better in H2.
Having two was sic; double the speed and needles.

  • 05.20.2006 5:18 PM PDT
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i think they should make the needler more powerfull in halo 3, and with better homing. sseing someone die from a needler is awesome, it would be cool to have it a little better to liven multiplayer, i mean wtf it wouldnt be any worse than BR rapage.

  • 05.20.2006 5:25 PM PDT
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If you took the needler and kept it the same as in H2 except make the explosion from multiple needles much stronger, maybe like a grenade. It would then be worth using. If you could catch someone from behind and kill them and do damage to the people around them it would be worth taking the risk to use it. We all know that the needler doesn't work against anyone good because it is so easy to dodge but if it was more powerful it would be worth the chance

  • 05.20.2006 5:54 PM PDT
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Ever seen the needles in the Macworld '99 video? Yeah, let's have those.

  • 05.20.2006 5:55 PM PDT