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Posted by: Invisablade
Also, did n/eone else see that the AR in the trailer seemed to light? When MC brought it from his shoulder to his hand it looked like the AR was way to light, not because of his mega strength it just seemed almost fake or to light. Hopefully they don't have this problem with the final product. I didn't really see that that much in Halo 2 or CE so it shouldn't be in 3, it's supposed to be better


What?..............

It looked fine to me...........

  • 05.20.2006 5:01 PM PDT
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well the only reason i liked the AR is because it was after seeing how sucky the SMG was. so thats why ppl like that AR .i mean the BR is much better for everything but for mowing down grunts its the AR and very close range.

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Posted by: Invisablade
Also, did n/eone else see that the AR in the trailer seemed to light? When MC brought it from his shoulder to his hand it looked like the AR was way to light, not because of his mega strength it just seemed almost fake or to light. Hopefully they don't have this problem with the final product. I didn't really see that that much in Halo 2 or CE so it shouldn't be in 3, it's supposed to be better


What?..............

It looked fine to me...........


seriously dude...how can u tell an ANIMATED GUNS WEIGHT

WTF are you DavidBlane?

STFU

  • 05.21.2006 12:27 AM PDT
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Posted by: Fear the Midfrog
I'm just curious because when i used to play Halo CE i really never used the AR, i mean, you got started with it a lot during the levels and yea it was cooler than an SMG, but seriously why make such a big deal about bringing back the AR? it wouldnt really be that cool if they did. BR owns anyway. Just like the pistol, yea i can see why people want the pistol back, that thing was awesome, but the AR did -blam!-, you know it.


I've been thinking the same thing...

  • 05.21.2006 12:29 AM PDT
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BR was a good weopon on H2 but other than the pistol the AR sounded awsome was pretty good and looks sick,was fun to play with

  • 05.21.2006 12:46 AM PDT
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The AR isn't good, face the fact. Only on easy, and who plays on easy anyway?

So for the weight in the trailer, the ammo counter was 00 and a weapon is much lighter when there is no ammo in it.

As for the total ammo, in Halo CE you could run around with 660 rounds in total, as for the BR it's something like 144 and with one SMG it's 240 rounds, With 2 it's 420 rounds (if it's not correct then I defend myself that I just got out of bed and it was all done in my head) so we see a drastic total ammo drop and I doubt that IF they put in a new kind of AR into Halo 3 then you will be able to have 11 clips.

I've read somewhere that the covenant Carbine replaced the pistol.

Anyway, the only way to bring back the AR is to make it a little stronger than one SMG but not 2 but you'll be able to throw grenades with it.

  • 05.21.2006 12:53 AM PDT
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actually if you can use the AR good it works pretty good on heroic

  • 05.21.2006 12:56 AM PDT
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Posted by: Naqser
The AR isn't good, face the fact. Only on easy, and who plays on easy anyway?

So for the weight in the trailer, the ammo counter was 00 and a weapon is much lighter when there is no ammo in it.

As for the total ammo, in Halo CE you could run around with 660 rounds in total, as for the BR it's something like 144 and with one SMG it's 240 rounds, With 2 it's 420 rounds (if it's not correct then I defend myself that I just got out of bed and it was all done in my head) so we see a drastic total ammo drop and I doubt that IF they put in a new kind of AR into Halo 3 then you will be able to have 11 clips.

I've read somewhere that the covenant Carbine replaced the pistol.

Anyway, the only way to bring back the AR is to make it a little stronger than one SMG but not 2 but you'll be able to throw grenades with it.


DuDe...how can u see the ammo counter on the gun in the trailer? when can u see it, i never noticed it. but then again i didnt notice the new hand and foot armor either.

  • 05.21.2006 2:18 AM PDT

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Becouse it´s the AR man! I mean... it´s the AR, you know. It´s like really important. Griff tell him why the AR is so important...

  • 05.21.2006 2:19 AM PDT
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Posted by: Fear the Midfrog
Posted by: Naqser
The AR isn't good, face the fact. Only on easy, and who plays on easy anyway?

So for the weight in the trailer, the ammo counter was 00 and a weapon is much lighter when there is no ammo in it.

As for the total ammo, in Halo CE you could run around with 660 rounds in total, as for the BR it's something like 144 and with one SMG it's 240 rounds, With 2 it's 420 rounds (if it's not correct then I defend myself that I just got out of bed and it was all done in my head) so we see a drastic total ammo drop and I doubt that IF they put in a new kind of AR into Halo 3 then you will be able to have 11 clips.

I've read somewhere that the covenant Carbine replaced the pistol.

Anyway, the only way to bring back the AR is to make it a little stronger than one SMG but not 2 but you'll be able to throw grenades with it.


DuDe...how can u see the ammo counter on the gun in the trailer? when can u see it, i never noticed it. but then again i didnt notice the new hand and foot armor either.


Exactly 1 minute in the trailer you can see some numbers on the ammocounter. Those are 00, it's been discussed before and confrimed it's 00.

  • 05.21.2006 5:59 AM PDT
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I respect your opinion, I'm probably just going to disagree with it.

It isn't the Assault Rifle. It looks a lot like it, but it is very slightly different, so it is likely to be a slight conversion. Lol, this is me being pedantic, but you might as well call it the Assault Rifle.

I can't say I noticed the ammo count, I'm inspired to look now

  • 05.21.2006 6:05 AM PDT
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I respect your opinion, I'm probably just going to disagree with it.

And actually I disagree about either the SMG or the AR being crap, because they aren't. I completed Halo 1 on Legendary with an Assault Rifle, so anyone who says its crap doesn't know what theyre talking about. You just have to know how and when to use it, that's all.
My second point is people liked the AR because it looked and sounded cool, and because it was satisfying, not because it did 50,0012.3 damage units per bullets per gram or whatever stats it had, it was just the feel of the weapon. AND there's no point comparing it to the new one, because the new one is different anyway. Period.

Boy do I hate sounding grumpy.

  • 05.21.2006 6:10 AM PDT
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The AR rules...
Pity it is NOT! Its a CR (combat rifle)
AR= Assult Rifle
BR= Battle Rifle
CR= Combat Rifle
DR
ER
...ect. :)

  • 05.21.2006 6:11 AM PDT
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AR is cool and no so overpowered as the -blam!- pistol! the postol sucked.. why take another weapon if you started with the pistol.. it was to damn overpowered! i wont buy halo 3 if they put it back in!

  • 05.21.2006 6:13 AM PDT

Halo's a hell of a drug.

Good question. The AR was horrible. I used it during campaign mode, but during MP mode I used it only when there was nothing left. I say leave it out.

pros: it shoots a lot of bullets

cons: not accurate
cons: it took a whole clip to kill another player
cons: it smelled weird, like the underside of a watch strap

  • 05.21.2006 6:16 AM PDT
Subject: Why Does Everyone Like the AR so much?

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I like all the guns to be honest all of them kill things but i do prefer the grenade throwing option of having a MA5B but also like the damage of duel wielding but if i had to choose one it would be the AR + a grenade - plasma of course - and all i hope for is all the weapons from H:CE and H2 to be inculded. On a final note i reckon the AR in the trailer is an MA5B with a silencer fixed for better accuracy so by a different gun bungie could mean a MA5BS or something new like that

  • 05.21.2006 6:19 AM PDT
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If anyone has seen the "Making Halo 2" documentary on the special edition halo disc (comes in the metal case), you know that Bungie wanted the AR to act more like a real life rifle. And real life rifles don't shoot continuously, machine guns and sub-machine guns do. So they changed the Assault Rifles long continuous fire to short bursts like a real rifle and then slapped a new name on it. Then they created an smg because they still wanted a continuous fire weapon in the game.

Also. Maybe someone said this already(i haven't read the whole thread) but MAYBE the BR and AR were combined into one! I smell PDZ style primary and secondary functions!

  • 05.21.2006 6:24 AM PDT
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Posted by: cdviper79
YES HE IS HODLING THE AR tomkiller. Why is everyone so small minded. It is the AR. Of course it looks a little different becasue its on the 360. Think People!


it is and it is not an AR. this is a different, smaller version of the Halo CE version. if you read the Halo novels, you'd kno that there were 2 versions of the AR. the MA5B and the MA2B.

  • 05.21.2006 6:41 AM PDT
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they were practicly the same gun, one was slightly more lightwieght...

anyway, i like the AS over the BS because: my tactic is, if somthing charges me, i hold my position and stand it down by putting as many rounds in it as possible before it reaches me the AS was thew perfect weapon for this, but if you try to do the same with the BS you dont stand a chance (3 rounds every two seconds or so, its a complete joke!)

  • 05.21.2006 7:14 AM PDT

Posted by: Fatso
For the last time it was replaced by the SMG not the Battle Rifle. The BR replaced the pistol.


No. You are wrong. The BR is an upgrade of the AR.

  • 05.21.2006 7:21 AM PDT
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its a kick ass weapon

  • 05.21.2006 7:50 AM PDT

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It looks great, looks even better when firing. And the sound... Awesomeness.

And hopefully it will be a good weapon in Halo3. Cos even though I liked it more than any other weapon in Halo:CE it was pretty pants.

  • 05.21.2006 8:10 AM PDT
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Posted by: Fear the Midfrog
Posted by: cdviper79
YES HE IS HODLING THE AR tomkiller. Why is everyone so small minded. It is the AR. Of course it looks a little different becasue its on the 360. Think People!


Actually if you read the weekly update on Halo3...Bungie clearly states that its NOT the AR.

So STFU


I think they were kidding about that, because It looks WAY to much like the AR in Halo CE, the only thing that looked sort of different, was the extended barrel, which might give it more accuracey, and then the AR would be most excellent.

--anyways: I liked it because of all the ammo you could carry with it.

  • 05.21.2006 8:13 AM PDT

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I think what he was trying to say was that it is the AR but a slightly different variant. ie not a MA5B but maybe a MA5C

  • 05.21.2006 8:17 AM PDT

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