Halo 3 Forum
This topic has moved here: Subject: Why the UNSC isnt as "advanced" as it should be.
  • Subject: Why the UNSC isnt as "advanced" as it should be.
  • Pages:
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • of 4
Subject: Why the UNSC isnt as "advanced" as it should be.
  • gamertag:
  • user homepage:
  • last post: 01.01.0001 12:00 AM PDT

Theory Number 1: Before the Covenant War, war between the UNSC and rebels was very similar to how we fight today, using smart missiles and SpecOps. We had never really created super high tech "Massive Standing Armies", we just pressed button and bunker busting missile flew out of a nearby star ship and blew a rebel inhabited astroid to pieces. Then however the Covenant attacked and warfare changed, as it usually does.

Theory Number 2 (less likely): Many ppl play halo and wonder "y is the UNSC less advanced that it should be." lots of ppl (like myself) have seen clips on the discovery channel or on the news about military and basic technological advancement. After watching it u would think "OMG imagine what it will be like twenty years from now at this rate of improvemnt." In the next paragraph i will explain a reason (besides just bungie flaw) to why the UNSC is like how it is and not like Star Wars.

WARNING THIS MABYE SOME-WHAT CONTROVERSIAL, YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED: the only way to stop improvement is to stop the ppl improving...or stop the motive of improvent. In the United States ppl r motivated to create improvement not out of the goodness of their hearts but because theres sumthing in it for them. that sumthing is money. Bungie made halo because there was money in it...becasue if they made a great game there would be money in it. the necesarry flip side of this is that if u suck at what u do you dont make money...if ur a bad business u go out of buisness. if u can die u have to survive and if u can survive in a better way than you'll do what it takes (a.k.a. getting rich). This system is called Capitalism. The inverse of this is communism and communism has failed this wrld. Nonetheless however communism isnt the only culprit of ruining mprovement and proseprity. the other is DESTRUCTION. However just like everything...this idea has 2 faces. And so the story begins...

It is the year 2015. Iran has developed Nuclear weaponry and has now used this weapnry to threaten the western world. The constant TUG-OF-WAR of Nuclear weaponry has thrown the western world and a large amount of Middle Eastern countries into Cold War, just as it was between the US and the USSR (Soviet Union). This Cold War II has become a battle of espionage. Between agencies like the CIA and Iranian spy units. This cold war inspired rapid technological evoltuion introducing infustructure. computers, weapons and other things to countries that had had none before. Counties like the US experienced vast evolution of technology.

Cold War II had remained COLD until the 2032. In a bold attempt to stop Iranian technological improvemnt from continuing and spreading throughout its Middle Eastern and Persian allies, the Jewish State of Israel launched an attack. This started World War III. This war had lasted 100 years. 100 years of death and despare. Destruction and poverty. Terrorism and Totalitarysm. Once powerful nations like Israel and England crumbled under its inability to protect itself in numbers. Finally in the year 2134 the dying state of Israel lauched it last attempt to save the wrld from the Iranian and Middle Eastern Union that they belived to be evil with a unprecented Nuclear Annihalation of Sudan. In a chain reaction of chaos and confusement the world was thrown into Nuclear Holocaust. 97% of every Nuclear warhead every built was lauched within a matter of 20 minutes. 1 hour later the once green surface of the Earth was reduced to a smoldring landsacape of black, glassy ash. However not all was lost.

Seperate bunkers spread across countries like the US and England, under structures like the Penatgon and the white house had preserved a mere .73 million ppl. World leaders like the US president, US military brass, European prime ministers and many more had finally regained contact with one another and now formulated a plan to re-establish the wrld that they had just lost. These world leaders formed a pack known as the UE (United Earth) and the primary language as English. The UE was a pack that would end war and eliminate the possibility of another world war.

20 years from that day the surviors had managed to creat themsleves a nexus of bunkers not only increasing the room for themsleves but also linking them with the fellow survivors from other saftey bunkers. For foutrty years the population grew and the ideals of jobs and leaders came back into existance. In 2223 Dr. Hideki Shaw-Fujikawa created the first model of the Slip space engine. Anxious Pioneers took the first ships set to discover new homeworlds where humanity could live again. after this point the referbiration of Earth and the migration to inhabitable worlds began. Un enforced space also became a hot zone for Pirates, Thugs, Terrorists, and Black Marketers. This why the UNSC came to be. To enforce Space.

Although the UNSC needed weapns, momentarily pacifist, war-aphobic humanity did not divert its research to weapnry improvements. Most of research was diverted to space travel, medical research, and planet teraforming (transforming). Everything else from this point is written info from bungie that i do not wish to contardict so this im where my theory ends.

[Edited on 5/22/2006]

  • 05.20.2006 3:56 PM PDT

This my friend, would be when the Lord returns.

  • 05.20.2006 4:01 PM PDT
  • gamertag: [none]
  • user homepage:

I'm a BLACKJACKass and proud of it.....
The place to be.....
Ownage.....
The Hax War!.....
Conquerer of Sniper McGee's empire..........

I smell politics...........................

Or it could be the pile of dog -blam!- in my yard.........but really the two aren't different at all.......................

  • 05.20.2006 4:03 PM PDT

-------------------------------------------------------------------------

Erepublik: Save the world from oppression!
--------------------------------------------------------------------------

Well, there have been many threads about this. The prime reasons are:
A: As Shishka stated, by 2500, you would have smart warfare. There would be no need for troops on the front line. Really, all they should be doing is pressing buttons from 500 miles away and launching missiles at each other. Now would that be fun? No.

B: You have to think prespectively. This is 2500. The Covenant stuff is strong, everything has been upgraded. Obviously, the technology is in the same prespective as today. If I take an hellfire missile and launch it at a tank, the tank is gonna blow up.

  • 05.20.2006 4:05 PM PDT
  • gamertag:
  • user homepage:
  • last post: 01.01.0001 12:00 AM PDT

Posted by: BLACKJACK green
I smell politics...........................

Or it could be the pile of dog -blam!- in my yard.........but really the two aren't different at all.......................


Politics - opionated dicussion about government

Fact- the US is a capitalist nation
Fact- Communism is a form of government that has rapidly depleted throughout the wrld so it has hence failed.
Fact- Iran has Uranium, we just dont know if it is weaponized.

presenting facts is not against bungie rules. My statemnts are as political as saying that the US has retired the Stealth Fighter (which it has)

  • 05.20.2006 4:12 PM PDT
  • gamertag:
  • user homepage:
  • last post: 01.01.0001 12:00 AM PDT

actually good point made by Shishka. Before the Covenant War the UNSC fought Spec Op wars and pushed buttons. Then a new war came

  • 05.20.2006 4:14 PM PDT
  • gamertag:
  • user homepage:
  • last post: 01.01.0001 12:00 AM PDT

It's simple, really.

The President and Government of the Human empire are secretly working in cahoots with the Covenant in a state of perpetual warfare. Allthough the Covenant may appear to be kickin' tail, the pendulum will "mircaulously" swing the other way, in the Human's favor, until a homeworld of one species of the Covenant is reached. Then, the Covenant will regain the upper hand, and so on and so on, with neither side accually winning or losing.

This is done in order to keep the High in power. With contant warfare, all food and supplies can be diverted to the "war effort," keeping the Middle and (especially) the Low in a contant state of desparation, surviving only on Goverment (or High Council) handouts that are just enough to keep you alive and hungry. For, when one is starving, and the government gives you food, one really does not care what party is in power.

The first to get the reference gets a cookie.

  • 05.20.2006 4:14 PM PDT
  • gamertag: [none]
  • user homepage:

I'm a BLACKJACKass and proud of it.....
The place to be.....
Ownage.....
The Hax War!.....
Conquerer of Sniper McGee's empire..........

Posted by: ONI Operative
Posted by: BLACKJACK green
I smell politics...........................

Or it could be the pile of dog -blam!- in my yard.........but really the two aren't different at all.......................


Politics - opionated dicussion about government

Fact- the US is a capitalist nation
Fact- Communism is a form of government that has rapidly depleted throughout the wrld so it has hence failed.
Fact- Iran has Uranium, we just dont know if it is weaponized.

presenting facts is not against bungie rules. My statemnts are as political as saying that the US has retired the Stealth Fighter (which it has)


Really?.........No -blam!-?...........

Dude, trust me.....someone will come here and spew political crap all over the place............it has happened many times before..............it's almost like a magnet.........

I'm not saying that it will immediatly happen.....hell it might not........but there is always that chance.............

  • 05.20.2006 4:15 PM PDT

Run DMC and Jam Master Jay

Posted by: ONI Operative
Posted by: BLACKJACK green
I smell politics...........................

Or it could be the pile of dog -blam!- in my yard.........but really the two aren't different at all.......................


Politics - opionated dicussion about government

Fact- the US is a capitalist nation
Fact- Communism is a form of government that has rapidly depleted throughout the wrld so it has hence failed.
Fact- Iran has Uranium, we just dont know if it is weaponized.

presenting facts is not against bungie rules. My statemnts are as political as saying that the US has retired the Stealth Fighter (which it has)


fact- you are a bush hater

and i saw on the news something about a stealth rocket that was launched in Iran...WWIII

UN: "oh no...there are civillians in iran"

USA: KISS MY ASS....tatatatatataboembooooooomm

3 days later

UN: thank you for saving the world USA!!!

USA: you're welcome...

LOLOLOL

  • 05.20.2006 4:20 PM PDT
  • gamertag:
  • user homepage:
  • last post: 01.01.0001 12:00 AM PDT


Really?.........No -blam!-?...........

Dude, trust me.....someone will come here and spew political crap all over the place............it has happened many times before..............it's almost like a magnet.........

I'm not saying that it will immediatly happen.....hell it might not........but there is always that chance.............[/quote]

r u saying that im being political or that this post will draw politics?

[Edited on 5/20/2006]

  • 05.20.2006 4:21 PM PDT
  • gamertag: [none]
  • user homepage:

I'm a BLACKJACKass and proud of it.....
The place to be.....
Ownage.....
The Hax War!.....
Conquerer of Sniper McGee's empire..........

Posted by: halomaniacforeve
Posted by: ONI Operative
Posted by: BLACKJACK green
I smell politics...........................

Or it could be the pile of dog -blam!- in my yard.........but really the two aren't different at all.......................


Politics - opionated dicussion about government

Fact- the US is a capitalist nation
Fact- Communism is a form of government that has rapidly depleted throughout the wrld so it has hence failed.
Fact- Iran has Uranium, we just dont know if it is weaponized.

presenting facts is not against bungie rules. My statemnts are as political as saying that the US has retired the Stealth Fighter (which it has)


fact- you are a bush hater

and i saw on the news something about a stealth rocket that was launched in Iran...WWIII

UN: "oh no...there are civillians in iran"

USA: KISS MY ASS....tatatatatataboembooooooomm

3 days later

UN: thank you for saving the world USA!!!

USA: you're welcome...

LOLOLOL


For some reason........I had a flashback to a simpsons episode................

  • 05.20.2006 4:23 PM PDT
  •  | 
  • Exalted Mythic Member

DMUKYA
Proud member of Eagle 117's theory group, The Watchers
Another great theorist group is Avignon
Interested in the mysteries within all of Bungie's games? Check out Theory of Unification
For the Biblical allegorist in you, there's מִכְמַן
Enjoy reading or writing sci-fi or fantasy? Come to New Horizons

as saying that the US has retired the Stealth Fighter (which it has)
Do you mean the F-117? Then yes, it has. For an extremely nice F-35 JSF...

  • 05.20.2006 4:24 PM PDT
  • gamertag: [none]
  • user homepage:

I'm a BLACKJACKass and proud of it.....
The place to be.....
Ownage.....
The Hax War!.....
Conquerer of Sniper McGee's empire..........

Posted by: ONI Operative

Really?.........No -blam!-?...........

Dude, trust me.....someone will come here and spew political crap all over the place............it has happened many times before..............it's almost like a magnet.........

I'm not saying that it will immediatly happen.....hell it might not........but there is always that chance.............[/quote]

r u saying that im being political or that this post will draw politics?


No, I'm not saying your being political......as a matter of fact I see some logic in your theory...........

I'm saying that the post can draw politics.................I've seen a thread about a hurricane turn into political debate, so its not far fetched...........

  • 05.20.2006 4:25 PM PDT

Run DMC and Jam Master Jay

5 days later

UN: "HELP!!!! they are bombarding uss!!!!"

USA: "no problem!!"

tkakakakakakakakboooooommmm "maydaymayday"..."winchester"!!!! winchester"!!!

"fox 1" booommmm "fox 3" boooomm


fact- USA is the banhammer of the world
fact- we need USA...without it...terrorism would pwn us

[Edited on 5/20/2006]

  • 05.20.2006 4:25 PM PDT
  • gamertag:
  • user homepage:
  • last post: 01.01.0001 12:00 AM PDT

halomaniac read my PM

  • 05.20.2006 4:32 PM PDT

Run DMC and Jam Master Jay

done

*f-15 crashes*

WTF attack!!!!!

*sends 100 F-15's*

hahaha
just a joke

  • 05.20.2006 4:34 PM PDT
  • gamertag:
  • user homepage:
  • last post: 01.01.0001 12:00 AM PDT

Oh my God! Your an idiot first the reason The UNSC was not as advanced as they should be was because of lack of supplies. You see the world coulden't make flying cars because of the lack of oil, inventors started working on thing to make the world comfortable, they know dought had to make an artifical atmosphere. Anyway the UNSC had fleets, the defence platforms, funding explorations. My point is the base of the Halo Universe was exploration, not defending planets from a enemy that didn't exist ( the covey eventually)

Besides the fact its a game its' very realistic, except for the Aliens and such.

Poster above i think ethonol was the use then. i mean NY already is in construction of a Ethonol plant and by 2015 they excpet the ethonol to program ot be in full swing, thats when the apockolypse begins.

[Edited on 5/20/2006]

  • 05.20.2006 4:42 PM PDT
  • gamertag:
  • user homepage:
  • last post: 01.01.0001 12:00 AM PDT

get off of oil, thats wicked political! Did anyone even read what i posted ?

  • 05.20.2006 7:00 PM PDT
  • gamertag:
  • user homepage:
  • last post: 01.01.0001 12:00 AM PDT

and what does oil have to do with anything anyway

  • 05.20.2006 7:01 PM PDT
  • gamertag:
  • user homepage:
  • last post: 01.01.0001 12:00 AM PDT

Its game. based in a universe most likely different from ours.


plus its exspensive enough as it is, no more money left to pay for upgrades.

  • 05.20.2006 7:04 PM PDT
  •  | 
  • Senior Mythic Member

"You must face the truth squarely and without flinching from duty. Our enemies are mortal no longer. Mercy for such as they is a chimera, self-deception is its only ally. Dedicate this weapon, given unto your hand at the behest of the Emperor, to their destruction. Regard its function as your only duty: you live only to bring cleansing fire."

interesting.

  • 05.20.2006 7:04 PM PDT
  • gamertag: OpsY
  • user homepage:

~~OpsY
Love you Bungie!
Still playing Halo1 Custom Edition!

I smell a lazy bastard that doesn't want to write "world" and jsut says "wrld"... besides, 100 years of war would never happebn. expect the nuke to be launched after maximum 15 years...By the ones who are loosing, Whoever it means( america).Bungie wanted a game in the future, to make sure it's cool to be in the space but didn't want us like the covenant or any other advanced specie... Halo 1 looked somehow realistic but when you play halo 2, you loose that feeling. Marines no longer have these plates, earth is dying, we have a SMG instead of a tight rifle.

  • 05.20.2006 7:10 PM PDT
  • gamertag:
  • user homepage:
  • last post: 01.01.0001 12:00 AM PDT

Acctually, they use lots and lots of nukes in the space battles. It's said in the books. I believe they called them 'Shiva's. Now THAT's a weapon I want to use on my enemies....even though I'd die in the explosion.

  • 05.20.2006 7:19 PM PDT
  • gamertag:
  • user homepage:
  • last post: 01.01.0001 12:00 AM PDT

thats a boring and dumb explanation, im trying to bring a little more life to the game

  • 05.20.2006 7:20 PM PDT

  • Pages:
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • of 4