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Subject: Why do you quit? Now gathering statistics!

i have learned its better to be nice, than not to be.

on the subject of quitting.

Quitting is ok when it is justified.

Dashboarding is network manipulation. Which I feel should be bannable.

  • 02.21.2012 5:46 PM PDT
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Halo: Reach is the beginning of a new age for gaming.
It proves that developers can get away with punishing their players instead of fixing their game....and yet the fanboys will still sing praises to them.

-blam!- all of you fanboys!

I aint done hijacking this thread yet.

First. Who cares about the reasons. Everyone has their own reasons to quit.

Who are you to tell them their reasons are not good enough?



Then.. there is this.

Do you realize that every FPS that utilizes a server browser style of multiplayer...

The only reason I ever quit out of a match under those circumstances is because of hackers/cheaters. That's it.. That's the only thing.

I don't quit because of map, because guess what?.. I CHOSE THAT MAP!
I don't quit because of gametype because.... yep, you guessed it.
I don't quit because of skill levels, because. Well WHO THE HELL CARES!?
I don't quit because of lag because....I chose a server with low ping.

Hackers...that's the only reason to quit a room when matchmaking isn't creating all these other reasons to quit a room.

And matchmaking knows how to piss people off just about every time a person hits the button to look for a game. Especially, when you are playing alone.

Guess what type of people quit the most? People who play alone.
Why are they quitting so much? Because matchmaking give them NO CONTROL WHATSOEVER on how they get to spend their time. Their entire time online is at the whim of what everyone else wants to play.. There is something seriously wrong when I have to bend over backwards for people I could give a -blam!- about whenever I want to play MP game as a lone wolf

I would expect to have to give way to other people preferences when I'm playing in a team....

But when I'm by myself. Why should I have to play to someone elses rules just about every damn time I attempt to play this game?

Explain that. Why are lone wolves treated with such disdain when it comes to multiplayer?

Quit ban = You shouldn't play Halo as a lone wolf.

WELL -blam!- THAT!

[Edited on 02.21.2012 6:08 PM PST]

  • 02.21.2012 5:47 PM PDT

Thread just got derailed by retardation.

  • 02.21.2012 5:48 PM PDT
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Always up for REACH customs!

E0S, quitting matters because it affects other people besides yourself. If you don't get that, you're selfish or you're trolling. Let's get back on topic.

  • 02.21.2012 5:53 PM PDT
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Halo: Reach is the beginning of a new age for gaming.
It proves that developers can get away with punishing their players instead of fixing their game....and yet the fanboys will still sing praises to them.

-blam!- all of you fanboys!

Explain why lone wolves are at the mercy of the Majority so much.

Then explain why a single lone wolf can be allowed to ruin games simply by quitting?

Why do solo players quit so much?

Because matchmaking is bending them over and -blam!- them over at every turn.

[Edited on 02.21.2012 5:55 PM PST]

  • 02.21.2012 5:55 PM PDT

i have learned its better to be nice, than not to be.


Posted by: the pib
E0S, quitting matters because it affects other people besides yourself. If you don't get that, you're selfish or you're trolling. Let's get back on topic.


absolutely true, because i just love being in black screen for minutes on end.

  • 02.21.2012 5:55 PM PDT
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Halo: Reach is the beginning of a new age for gaming.
It proves that developers can get away with punishing their players instead of fixing their game....and yet the fanboys will still sing praises to them.

-blam!- all of you fanboys!

Seriously, you want to solve the issue with quitters?
Go to server browsers.
DONE.
Nothing else to talk about.

Put customs at the forefront of the multiplayer experience and give people the ability of fill that room with other players, besides just those on your friends list ffs. That would solve a good majority if not everything that is wrong with this game.

[Edited on 02.21.2012 6:00 PM PST]

  • 02.21.2012 5:56 PM PDT

Posted by: ღMidnight Hawk2ღ
Everyone is entitled to their own wrong opinion.


I'm part of the Bungie.net Minecraft group/server called SeptaCrafters
We're a Bungie.net group that goes to our very own Bungie server. Most players are from the Halo community either off Bungie itself or through word to Halo friends.

I don't need a messy long list for this.

1.)I get booted from someone stepping in front of my sniper
2.)I lag out, get host booted, internet goes down, power goes out.
3.)I am getting spawned killed (has not happened yet)
4.) (hasn't happened) I need to get off NOW.

  • 02.21.2012 5:58 PM PDT

i have learned its better to be nice, than not to be.


Posted by: MR E0S
Explain why lone wolves are at the mercy of the Majority so much.

Then explain why a single lone wolf can be allowed to ruin games simply by quitting?

Why do solo players quit so much?

Because matchmaking is bending them over and -blam!- them over at every turn.


i will give you an actually example.
me and two friends playing in a party, we pick up a lone wolf in lobby.
the game is going in our favor, i get a killing spree, frenzy,running riot, and because it pops on the screen everyone else knows it. lone wolf gets on his mic and say " I am going to ruin your perfection." i say "oh yeah" he quits, my sprees get reset. Rage quit!!

  • 02.21.2012 5:59 PM PDT
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Halo: Reach is the beginning of a new age for gaming.
It proves that developers can get away with punishing their players instead of fixing their game....and yet the fanboys will still sing praises to them.

-blam!- all of you fanboys!

that was a stupid example...
It really was.

Because you should have first asked yourself this.

Why is that guy griefing? What's his purpose.

And...besides that...how the hell does him quitting ruin your perfection?

He's no longer in the game to interfere. That's what I don't get. How can someone ruin a game if they are not in that game.

THEY CAN'T!

Cheaters ruin a game because they DON'T QUIT!
AFK players ruin games because they DON'T QUIT!

see where I'm going with this?

How the hell does someone who doesn't exist in your game, ruin it?

Because you have an open slot? So how is the quitter supposed to fix that. It's not their job to fill open slots. That's matchmakings job. But...oh guess what......

[Edited on 02.21.2012 6:05 PM PST]

  • 02.21.2012 6:03 PM PDT

Posted by: Akdave420
i will give you an actually example.
me and two friends playing in a party, we pick up a lone wolf in lobby.
the game is going in our favor, i get a killing spree, frenzy,running riot, and because it pops on the screen everyone else knows it. lone wolf gets on his mic and say " I am going to ruin your perfection." i say "oh yeah" he quits, my sprees get reset. Rage quit!!
Perfections aren't based off spree's. The description says 15 KILLS not a RUNNING RIOT.

  • 02.21.2012 6:03 PM PDT

I intend to live forever, or die trying,

so far, so good.

I never Quit, even if it is 1 v 8 and im the 1. I won't quit.

I only quit due to connection problems. As in, my internet has been discpnnected or i lagged from the game. Which is not quitting.

[ ] I refuse to play the map people voted for, period. (Which
maps? Explain below)
[ ] I refuse to play the gametype people voted for, period. (Which gametypes? Explain below)
[ ] People voted for AR starts and I'll only play DMR starts.
[ ] People voted for DMR starts and I'll only play AR starts.
[ ] I've played this map too many times in a row.
[ ] I've played this gametype too many times in a row.
[ ] I started a game I didn't have time to finish.
[ ] The other team is a full party of tryhard pros, I'll quit before the match starts.
[ ] My teammates are immature or abusive over their headsets.
[ ] My teammates are griefing, betraying each other, or betraying me.
[ ] My teammates are really bad or not even trying or AFKing.
[ ] Several of my teammates have already quit.
[ ] Someone took my favorite power weapon or vehicle.
[ ] The lag is unbearable.
[ ] We're losing so badly I have no chance of winning.
[ ] I don't want the stats from this game going on my record.
[ ] My team is getting spawn-killed.
[ ] The other team is hiding, holding the objective, or doing something unsportsmanlike.
[ ] Everyone on the other team has quit except one guy, and this is boring.
[ ] Enemies are "abusing" certain Armor Abilities.
[ ] Rage quit for other reason. (What else causes you to rage quit? Explain below)
[ X ] Network troubles frequently cause me to lose connection and lag out.
[ ] Other, please explain......

  • 02.21.2012 6:05 PM PDT

I intend to live forever, or die trying,

so far, so good.


Posted by: boomdeyadah
Posted by: Akdave420
i will give you an actually example.
me and two friends playing in a party, we pick up a lone wolf in lobby.
the game is going in our favor, i get a killing spree, frenzy,running riot, and because it pops on the screen everyone else knows it. lone wolf gets on his mic and say " I am going to ruin your perfection." i say "oh yeah" he quits, my sprees get reset. Rage quit!!
Perfections aren't based off spree's. The description says 15 KILLS not a RUNNING RIOT.


You would still get a perfection, you may lose a chance of getting your 20 kills medal, but as long as you don't die, win and have 15 kills, you get the medal.

  • 02.21.2012 6:06 PM PDT
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Bringing in Fikst. Bringing back lmao.
Inheritor # 475 world,

#6 In the Country.

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Posted by: THOMSY99

Posted by: boomdeyadah
Posted by: Akdave420
i will give you an actually example.
me and two friends playing in a party, we pick up a lone wolf in lobby.
the game is going in our favor, i get a killing spree, frenzy,running riot, and because it pops on the screen everyone else knows it. lone wolf gets on his mic and say " I am going to ruin your perfection." i say "oh yeah" he quits, my sprees get reset. Rage quit!!
Perfections aren't based off spree's. The description says 15 KILLS not a RUNNING RIOT.


You would still get a perfection, you may lose a chance of getting your 20 kills medal, but as long as you don't die, win and have 15 kills, you get the medal.


You don't have to win.

  • 02.21.2012 6:10 PM PDT

i only quit when exveryone else has left. Otherwise i need to be a good spartan and fight to the death, no matter the level of adversity.

  • 02.21.2012 6:35 PM PDT

[ ] I refuse to play the map people voted for, period. (Which maps? Explain below)
[ ] I refuse to play the gametype people voted for, period. (Which gametypes? Explain below)
[ ] People voted for AR starts and I'll only play DMR starts.
[ ] People voted for DMR starts and I'll only play AR starts.
[ ] I've played this map too many times in a row.
[ ] I've played this gametype too many times in a row.
[X] I started a game I didn't have time to finish.
[ ] The other team is a full party of tryhard pros, I'll quit before the match starts.
[ ] My teammates are immature or abusive over their headsets.
[ ] My teammates are griefing, betraying each other, or betraying me.
[X] My teammates are really bad or not even trying or AFKing.
[ ] Several of my teammates have already quit.
[ ] Someone took my favorite power weapon or vehicle.
[X] The lag is unbearable.
[ ] We're losing so badly I have no chance of winning.
[ ] I don't want the stats from this game going on my record.
[X] My team is getting spawn-killed.
[ ] The other team is hiding, holding the objective, or doing something unsportsmanlike.
[ ] Everyone on the other team has quit except one guy, and this is boring.
[ ] Enemies are "abusing" certain Armor Abilities.
[ ] Rage quit for other reason. (What else causes you to rage quit? Explain below)
[ ] Network troubles frequently cause me to lose connection and lag out.
[ ] Other, please explain......

  • 02.21.2012 6:43 PM PDT

i have learned its better to be nice, than not to be.

I see, i received the perfection, but not the rampage. I was under the impression that when it blackscreened when host quits that, all your sprees reset.

Kill based would explain that, i apologize that i dont, necessarily pour over everything like i am about to be tested or win a cash prize. Members here have turned into jaded-cynics, like outcasts who refuse evolution. What turned you all this way?

[Edited on 02.21.2012 7:04 PM PST]

  • 02.21.2012 7:03 PM PDT
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PRYING OPEN MY THIRD EYE. PRYING OPEN MY THIRD EYE. PRYING OPEN MY THIRD EYE. PRYING OPEN MY THIRD EYE. PRYING OPEN MY THIRD EYE. PRYING OPEN MY THIRD EYE. PRYING OPEN MY THIRD EYE. PRYING OPEN MY THIRD EYE. PRYING OPEN MY THIRD EYE.

[ ] I refuse to play the map people voted for, period. (Which maps? Explain below)
[ ] I refuse to play the gametype people voted for, period. (Which gametypes? Explain below)
[ ] People voted for AR starts and I'll only play DMR starts.
[ ] People voted for DMR starts and I'll only play AR starts.
[ ] I've played this map too many times in a row.
[ ] I've played this gametype too many times in a row.
[ ] I started a game I didn't have time to finish.
[ ] The other team is a full party of tryhard pros, I'll quit before the match starts.
[ ] My teammates are immature or abusive over their headsets.
[X] My teammates are griefing, betraying each other, or betraying me.
[ ] My teammates are really bad or not even trying or AFKing.
[X] Several of my teammates have already quit.
[ ] Someone took my favorite power weapon or vehicle.
[ ] The lag is unbearable.
[ ] We're losing so badly I have no chance of winning.
[ ] I don't want the stats from this game going on my record.
[X] My team is getting spawn-killed.
[ ] The other team is hiding, holding the objective, or doing something unsportsmanlike.
[ ] Everyone on the other team has quit except one guy, and this is boring.
[ ] Enemies are "abusing" certain Armor Abilities.
[ ] Rage quit for other reason. (What else causes you to rage quit? Explain below)
[ ] Network troubles frequently cause me to lose connection and lag out.
[ ] Other, please explain......

  • 02.21.2012 7:49 PM PDT

[X] I refuse to play the map people voted for, period. (Which maps? Explain below) - Swordbase
[X] I refuse to play the gametype people voted for, period. (Which gametypes? Explain below) - Rockethog
[ ] People voted for AR starts and I'll only play DMR starts.
[ ] People voted for DMR starts and I'll only play AR starts.
[ ] I've played this map too many times in a row.
[ ] I've played this gametype too many times in a row.
[X] I started a game I didn't have time to finish.
[ ] The other team is a full party of tryhard pros, I'll quit before the match starts.
[ ] My teammates are immature or abusive over their headsets.
[X] My teammates are griefing, betraying each other, or betraying me.
[ ] My teammates are really bad or not even trying or AFKing.
[ ] Several of my teammates have already quit. - sometimes if I am the last one against pros but normally not.
[ ] Someone took my favorite power weapon or vehicle.
[ ] The lag is unbearable.
[ ] We're losing so badly I have no chance of winning.
[ ] I don't want the stats from this game going on my record.
[X] My team is getting spawn-killed.
[ ] The other team is hiding, holding the objective, or doing something unsportsmanlike.
[X] Everyone on the other team has quit except one guy, and this is boring.
[ ] Enemies are "abusing" certain Armor Abilities.
[ ] Rage quit for other reason. (What else causes you to rage quit? Explain below)
[X] Network troubles frequently cause me to lose connection and lag out.
[X] Other, please explain...... A friend comes over and wants to chill or if I am going to eat dinner.

  • 02.21.2012 7:55 PM PDT

I've lagged out before but I don't quit.

[Edited on 02.21.2012 7:57 PM PST]

  • 02.21.2012 7:56 PM PDT

Quitting is an art for me in Reach.

[X] I refuse to play the map people voted for, period. (Which maps? Explain below)
[X] I refuse to play the gametype people voted for, period. (Which gametypes? Explain below)
[X] My teammates are griefing, betraying each other, or betraying me.
[X] My teammates are really bad or not even trying or AFKing.
[X] Several of my teammates have already quit.
[X] The lag is unbearable.
[X] Rage quit for other reason. (What else causes you to rage quit? Explain below)
[X] Other, please explain......

Maps:
oh I have no problem quitting in a game like derp reach. For maps I refuse to play on hemorrhage more than once every time I log on if I'm playing BTB. That map is terrible, once is enough. If it gets voted in again i just quit at the beginning and find a better lobby of players who vote for a more reasonable map that is actually fun to play on.

Gametypes:
I will never ever ever EVER play Elite slayer. Tell me why I must play a stupid gametype like elite slayer that forces me to be an elite? I chose to be a spartan why should the game force me to be a derp dino. no just no, that gametype is terrible. Keep elites in terribad invasion where they belong.

Teammates:
If they aren't playing (like AFK, betraying, or not taking the match serious) or just plain bad, like so bad they can't even get a single kill I leave. I don't like wasting my time on pointless matches.

Lag:
Surprise surprise reach but your network sucks compared to halo 3's!!! Nowhere in halo 3 does the game go black screen so much in the middle of a match or at the beginning for me than reach. Why on earth does reach throw me into terrible red and yellow bar matches at random where the players are clearly terrible but the lag is so bad for me I can't even spawn. I leave those matches with no hesitation. MW3 has lag issues but sometimes Reach can trump that fail bar.

Other:
I have a 3 deaths rule. Kind of a "3 strikes you're done just leave" rule. If I'm not playing with friends and the beginning of the match I am killed 3 times or more in a row without getting a single kill yet I insta leave. I call BS and move on. This is really rare for me but most of the times those matches are related to having afk teammates or plain and simple bad lag matches. Either way I don't waste my time in compromised matches.

For the record. I've been quit banned multiple times (the 10 min ban) but you know what? I've never served the 10 min time . . . ever. Why you ask? I simply log out, log back in to another account and keep playing =) Reach gets the big middle finger thinking it can stop me from quitting terrible matches and maps. If I don't want to play it I'll leave and no penalty will ever get in my way.

  • 02.21.2012 8:19 PM PDT

Lol

When I have to carry my team mates to the point of getting 30+ kills every game.

  • 02.21.2012 8:31 PM PDT
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You must confront your inabilities
You must adjust to your capabilities

I raged quit for something going on outside the game.

  • 02.21.2012 8:39 PM PDT
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Posted by: iTz Hermione
Quitting is an art for me in Reach.

[X] I refuse to play the map people voted for, period. (Which maps? Explain below)
[X] I refuse to play the gametype people voted for, period. (Which gametypes? Explain below)
[X] My teammates are griefing, betraying each other, or betraying me.
[X] My teammates are really bad or not even trying or AFKing.
[X] Several of my teammates have already quit.
[X] The lag is unbearable.
[X] Rage quit for other reason. (What else causes you to rage quit? Explain below)
[X] Other, please explain......

Maps:
oh I have no problem quitting in a game like derp reach. For maps I refuse to play on hemorrhage more than once every time I log on if I'm playing BTB. That map is terrible, once is enough. If it gets voted in again i just quit at the beginning and find a better lobby of players who vote for a more reasonable map that is actually fun to play on.

Gametypes:
I will never ever ever EVER play Elite slayer. Tell me why I must play a stupid gametype like elite slayer that forces me to be an elite? I chose to be a spartan why should the game force me to be a derp dino. no just no, that gametype is terrible. Keep elites in terribad invasion where they belong.

Teammates:
If they aren't playing (like AFK, betraying, or not taking the match serious) or just plain bad, like so bad they can't even get a single kill I leave. I don't like wasting my time on pointless matches.

Lag:
Surprise surprise reach but your network sucks compared to halo 3's!!! Nowhere in halo 3 does the game go black screen so much in the middle of a match or at the beginning for me than reach. Why on earth does reach throw me into terrible red and yellow bar matches at random where the players are clearly terrible but the lag is so bad for me I can't even spawn. I leave those matches with no hesitation. MW3 has lag issues but sometimes Reach can trump that fail bar.

Other:
I have a 3 deaths rule. Kind of a "3 strikes you're done just leave" rule. If I'm not playing with friends and the beginning of the match I am killed 3 times or more in a row without getting a single kill yet I insta leave. I call BS and move on. This is really rare for me but most of the times those matches are related to having afk teammates or plain and simple bad lag matches. Either way I don't waste my time in compromised matches.

For the record. I've been quit banned multiple times (the 10 min ban) but you know what? I've never served the 10 min time . . . ever. Why you ask? I simply log out, log back in to another account and keep playing =) Reach gets the big middle finger thinking it can stop me from quitting terrible matches and maps. If I don't want to play it I'll leave and no penalty will ever get in my way.


I have literally done everything, or said everything in this post above. Even something similar to the 3 death rule. There are times when I bail when I'm at 2-6 or 2-8, the shieldless opposition is eating my shots yet I'm getting dropped after I've found cover (lag). That tells me it's already over, and to just leave.

But I don't see how you avoid the Quit Ban by switching accounts? If I'm serving a Quit Ban (10 mins) I can bail, my girlfriend can sign in, and she's stuck serving it as well .... it's always been a console wide ban for us.

  • 02.21.2012 9:09 PM PDT

Name's John. I'm a 21-year-old firefighter/EMT from lolhio who doubles as a die-hard Halo fan. I've been enjoying the franchise since 2001. My favorite iteration of Halo would have to be Halo 2 simply because I never got to experience the joy of a full-on Halo: CE LAN.


If you have any other questions, feel free to ask.

Oh yeah, and boot Zome.




[ ] I refuse to play the map people voted for, period. (Which maps? Explain below)
[ ] I refuse to play the gametype people voted for, period. (Which gametypes? Explain below)
[ ] People voted for AR starts and I'll only play DMR starts.
[ ] People voted for DMR starts and I'll only play AR starts.
[ ] I've played this map too many times in a row.
[ ] I've played this gametype too many times in a row.
[ ] I started a game I didn't have time to finish.
[ ] The other team is a full party of tryhard pros, I'll quit before the match starts.
[ ] My teammates are immature or abusive over their headsets.
[ ] My teammates are griefing, betraying each other, or betraying me.
[ ] My teammates are really bad or not even trying or AFKing.
[ ] Several of my teammates have already quit.
[ ] Someone took my favorite power weapon or vehicle.
[ ] The lag is unbearable.
[ ] We're losing so badly I have no chance of winning.
[ ] I don't want the stats from this game going on my record.
[ ] My team is getting spawn-killed.
[ ] The other team is hiding, holding the objective, or doing something unsportsmanlike.
[ ] Everyone on the other team has quit except one guy, and this is boring.
[ ] Enemies are "abusing" certain Armor Abilities.
[ ] Rage quit for other reason. (What else causes you to rage quit? Explain below)
[ ] Network troubles frequently cause me to lose connection and lag out.
[ X ] Other, please explain......



I quit if there's an Inheritor on the other team. They're so intimidating and good.

  • 02.21.2012 9:33 PM PDT

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