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Subject: Title Update

I Retired Gears of War 2, Sold it to buy Halo 3. And I have not had this much fun playing Video Games in a long time :)
Now that Halo Reach is out. My life has never been better.
Thanks Bungie.

Hi all.

I am asking this question for the blog I do about Halo Reach.

I would like to know your thoughts on the Title Update taking affect of most of Halo: Reach now. TU is in all playlist except for: Rumble Pit, Team Slayer (1/2 TU 1/2 Vanilla), and Invasion. How do you think this will affect the future of Halo: Reach, and what are YOUR final thoughts on TU. What is your opinion on TU, and it's final outcome.

Please elaborate on all the changes you can think of about the Title Update. The more you write, the better.

This week, I will be making a video, and connect it with my blog. You can check out my introduction video to my blogs here.

  • 02.21.2012 7:26 PM PDT
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Posted by: Horse Repairman
RC RuNz the internet. Like the superintendent.

Posted by: SouthPoIe
Clone is an internet God.

Posted by: DerpRoids
RC Clone is the anti-thesis of a lurker.

Altering bloom - good

Not completely removing crap Armor Abilities - retarded

Making melee stronger - retarded, but can be fixed even though it won't be.

Not fixing grenades or shield recharge - dumb as 3 legged man in a square dancing competition

Still haven't fixed Prisoner.

  • 02.21.2012 7:35 PM PDT
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Thor's Mjolnir

I only play Anniversary list now becasue I love the original game play. although I have played some Team SLayer in the hope of getting the 50k jackpot

  • 02.21.2012 7:38 PM PDT
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If you have to use labels like 'Retarded' to describe anyone who disagrees with you, Then your arguement has lost any weight it might of had, and I personally will assume you are just trying to get a rise out of people.

Also to those who think that having a high KDR means you're beast; just the fact that boosters exist is a prime reason that any thumbless noob can achieve it throwing the 'my high KDR validates my opinion" logic out the window.

No Comment.

They aren't going to remove an entire feature from the game, That would be stupid.

Melee being stronger is far less annoying than being DMR headshot while still having a shield. I could go on a rant about the whole bleedthrough with non/Power weapons, but I digress as it is.

The problem isn't grenades, it's tiny maps (Countdown) that just explode with them all the time. (You name me one game on Camptown that you DIDN'T get fragged at least 3 times by a stray grenade.)

No comment on anniversary maps, Haven't actually played them yet.

  • 02.21.2012 7:44 PM PDT
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Posted by: Horse Repairman
RC RuNz the internet. Like the superintendent.

Posted by: SouthPoIe
Clone is an internet God.

Posted by: DerpRoids
RC Clone is the anti-thesis of a lurker.


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They wouldn't be a problem if they didn't have a ridiculous blast radius and extremely short fuse.

I want my hard to place Halo 3 nades back.

  • 02.21.2012 7:48 PM PDT

Posted by: Darkside Eric
So basically... Waypoint is pro-vanilla?

Posted by: Sentox6
Waypoint isn't pro-anything so much as they're just anti-intelligence.

OP, rumble pit has been updated to TU settings.

And anybody who doesn't like the TU is probably retarded.

  • 02.21.2012 7:56 PM PDT
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Posted by: Horse Repairman
RC RuNz the internet. Like the superintendent.

Posted by: SouthPoIe
Clone is an internet God.

Posted by: DerpRoids
RC Clone is the anti-thesis of a lurker.

Just noticed Sentox got a shout out in your blog.


I could type up a giant paragraph on what I think about each attribute of the title update, but this isn't last month and I no longer type that much in one sitting anymore.

  • 02.21.2012 8:00 PM PDT
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Yeah sweet blog bro.

  • 02.21.2012 8:33 PM PDT

Yes of course.

Me and a great deal of others are not fans of the title update for the following reasons.

I'll start with the way it affects the load outs.

1. Armor lock.

This load out has been criticized from the very start, far more than any of the others so I will begin by discussing it first.
TU reduces their load out by making them take damage while in armor lock. One of the biggest complaints about armor lock is that when stuck the armor locker can survive by going into armor lock. This has always been an Armor lockers privilege. They still have to remain stationary and defend themselves when they come out of armor lock which requires timing and accuracy to survive. They do not enjoy the privileges that other load outs enable so why take away from them?

2. The Jet packers

Its now open season on all Jet Packers
By increasing the firing rate everyone but especially those in the air, have less reaction time. Jet packers movement around the board is especially unique in that they are able to use more of the map. I have enjoyed playing with some great jet packers who are also highly skilled with a DMR. Their directional movement forces players to look up and greatly increases the dynamic of the game. The firing rate has increased but jet pack speed hasn't increased so they are being shot and brought down like flies.

3. Melee bleed through

The dynamic of this interaction has been greatly changed by the TU update in multiple ways. I will do my best to try and explain it as thoroughly as possible.
A player who is skilled at maneuvering the board can often avoid the majority of an opponents gunfire and get close enough to double pummel. This forces the opponent to engage close quarters with a pummel of their own and to counter the movement accordingly with gunfire, grenades, maneuvering, ect.

The bleed through means that if you are sprinting at your opponent with the intention of engaging close quarters and you get shot only a couple times one pummel with bring you down. This of course works both ways. If I shoot my opponent then run up and we both melee then we both just drop. This reduces ALL the fantastic and utterly brilliant measures that may have taken place had we both been able to survive the initial pummel and the heart thumping interactions thereafter. This was true especially for those of us who enjoyed the sprint load out and also enjoy forcing our opponents to play close quarters. The TU update discourages close quarters. For us CC lovers the fun of the game is being in your face and getting close up forcing the opponent to engage you. This type of action was extremely fun and intense requiring precision timing, accuracy and focus. Now players most often just trade a fast kill.

4. The SWORD DUEL

Sword duel has been taken away with TU update. For those of us who love the sword, and love competition, this type of close quarters action is intense. Now there is no way for my opponent to counter the sword lunge with a duel. This makes it less of an effort for me to beat my opponent, hence cutting the fun and competition in half. The sword duel interactions are some of the most heart pounding adrenaline inducing moments in the game. Taking it away removes a unique close quarters dynamic. I dislike this aspect of the TU the most and feel it must be brought back along with the rest of the defaults.

5. Finally the DMR

The biggest fans of TU seem to love this weapon. This is not to say that all DMR fans love TU. MANY do not. With TU the bloom/firing rate has increased for this weapon. I have listened to the arguments supporting this feature and am still at a loss to explain how/why they think the game improved. The thing I hear most often in support of this is that you now need to be more accurate, and that the skill curve has increased.

Myself and others totally disagree with this for multiple reasons. Firstly anyone can pick up a DMR and now shoot their opponent faster. It doesn't force anyone to be more accurate it just allows them to shoot faster. Fans of the DMR who are NOT TU supporters counter by pointing this out; People who weren't as skilled with a DMR, including myself, will now pick it up more frequently because this weapon has become a more powerful tool with the TU. This reduces competition and skill in one stroke. My DMR overall is slightly negative and I will be the first to point it out. I don't pick the DMR up often because it is a long range weapon. I am a close quarters player but even I can see that it is now easier to beat someone more skilled than me with a DMR by getting the jump on them and shooting them first. What a shame. Again this interaction is cut short and all the great measures that would have occurred in between.

In short the TU update hurts the game play by increasing the firing rate for DMR, effecting the load outs, killing close quarters with melee bleed through and removing the sword duel.

Halo Reach was more than just a FPS by providing players a depth to the game that included all load outs and all weapons plus great dynamic and changing that shows a gross misunderstanding of the games potential. Duh!!

[Edited on 02.22.2012 8:45 AM PST]

  • 02.22.2012 7:54 AM PDT

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Posted by: HagbarChaline
In short the TU update hurts the game play by increasing the firing rate for DMR, effecting the load outs, killing close quarters with melee bleed through and removing the sword duel.


-Firing rate was unaffected.
-AL still works as it always has but is no longer a 6 second pause button
-CQB is more alive than ever.
-Sword block was just as stupid as AL to begin with.

  • 02.22.2012 8:23 AM PDT
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I'm perfectly happy with all the changes, except the guesswork inherent in bleedthrough melees is frustrating, especially with the health pack bug.

  • 02.22.2012 8:31 AM PDT

I like every part of the title update other than bleedthrough. Bleedthrough damage is stupid and makes melee more random than ever. I would love if the bleedthrough system were put back to what it were.

  • 02.22.2012 8:32 AM PDT

Posted by: Tom T
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Posted by: An average gamer
I like every part of the title update other than bleedthrough. Bleedthrough damage is stupid and makes melee more random than ever. I would love if the bleedthrough system were put back to what it were.


Bleedthrough is far better than the flawed vanilla settings.

  • 02.22.2012 8:46 AM PDT


Posted by: Kira Onime
-Firing rate was unaffected.


???????

  • 02.22.2012 8:47 AM PDT

Halo 2 > Halo 3 > Halo 3 ODST > Halo Reach > Halo CE

Based on campaigns.

Personally I hate it. AR melee rushers, grenade spammers winning over Armour lock, I think it should stay out of our precious vanilla

Vote vanilla!

  • 02.22.2012 8:52 AM PDT

Posted by: Tom T
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Posted by: Kira Onime
-Firing rate was unaffected.


???????


DMR doesn't magically fire faster after the TU.

  • 02.22.2012 9:02 AM PDT

the TU is awesome, I'll take the minor annoynance of bleedthrough over sword block/AL/Bloom all day everyday.

  • 02.22.2012 9:02 AM PDT


Posted by: Kira Onime
Bleedthrough is far better than the flawed vanilla settings.


Vanilla's shield system took skill and let the more skilled live. If some guy decided it was a good idea to run up to you and try to double melee you, you could shoot at him while he's running, then continue to shoot while he was in the process of punching you. His shields would drop and you could melee/kill him before he could punch back. You'd live, he'd die.

It worked in a similar fashion with AR death charges. If you were shot at and then meleed while you had shield, you could live and continue to shoot your opponent until their shields dropped, then melee them to death.

Bleedthrough just makes AR death charges work again and leads to pointless trade kills. No bleedthrough was far superior, and FAR less random than the garbage in place now.

  • 02.22.2012 9:10 AM PDT
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I love TU
I hate bloom
The bleed threw issue everyone is talking about doesent bother me. I think the TU is a good change.

  • 02.22.2012 9:13 AM PDT
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I miss the BR
sorry just had flash backs of halo 3

  • 02.22.2012 9:15 AM PDT

Posted by: Tom T
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Posted by: An average gamer
Vanilla's shield system took skill and let the more skilled live.


Definitely not.

  • 02.22.2012 9:19 AM PDT


Posted by: Kira Onime
Definitely not.


Definitely yes and I already said why. Bleedthrough blows. Scientifically proven protip fact.

  • 02.22.2012 9:20 AM PDT

I debated on weather to grace you with another reply but I just can't seem to help myself.
Posted by: Kira Onime

Posted by: HagbarChaline

Posted by: Kira Onime
-Firing rate was unaffected.


???????


DMR doesn't magically fire faster after the TU.


That's right Kira the DMR doesn't magically fire faster. The game also doesn't magically fly in the console and I'm sorry princess fairy but unicorns are not real. You have to push the button for it to work and pushing the button faster now makes rifle go boom boom quick time fast fast. O.K. princess?

[Edited on 02.22.2012 9:22 AM PST]

  • 02.22.2012 9:20 AM PDT

"Angry Angels, Honour & Loyalty!"

Me? I m just happy today is the last day of the Choice-we-have-to-make-between-a TU-Map-and-a-crappier-map thing.Twice.

  • 02.22.2012 9:23 AM PDT
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GrownPrism is NOT my gt. Happened when signing into my xbox live account. My real gt is here:

http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Reach/Default.aspx?player=SYNTHES lS&sg=0


Posted by: HagbarChaline
I debated on weather to grace you with another reply but I just can't seem to help myself.
Posted by: Kira Onime

Posted by: HagbarChaline

Posted by: Kira Onime
-Firing rate was unaffected.


???????


DMR doesn't magically fire faster after the TU.


That's right Kira the DMR doesn't magically fire faster. The game also doesn't magically fly in the console and I'm sorry princess fairy but unicorns are not real. You have to push the button for it to work and pushing the button faster now makes rifle go boom boom quick time fast fast. O.K. princess?


You're retarded. People have been able to spam since Reach started, he TU didn't change that.

[Edited on 02.22.2012 9:24 AM PST]

  • 02.22.2012 9:24 AM PDT

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