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Subject: It looks like TU is showing how bad/good everyone really is...

Posted by: Stardriver 1
Bungie told you long before the game came out that it was going to be different. You bought the game anyway and were "surprised" when it didn't play like the trilogy games.
There is good change, and then there is bad change. Reach was bad change.
You complained to Bungie. Bungie held their ground.No. Bungie didn't do anything because THEY COULDN'T. Their contract with MS was basically over after Noble Map Pack. They weren't allowed to alter the game after that.
343i took over, couldn't stand the complaining,lol 343 realized that more people like the old Halo gameplay and not massive bad changes. You should be thankful there is still bloom in TU.
You guys don't like Bungie's Reach because killing people was too hard.No, because randomness is BAD. Bloom = random = terrible competitive game (Note: Halo has always been a more competitive than casual game)
You couldn't let go of your H3 playstyle. Removing bloom and nerfing AA's makes it easier for everyone. Halo is supposed to be hard.No Halo is supposed to require some sort of skill. Not getting lucky and using a get out of jail free card to save you when you make bad mistakes.
You can't handle hard. You like easy. Apparently you like really easy. Pat yourselves on the back for making a hard game into an easy game. You deserve it.You are a -blam!- idiot. Please, just stop. TU doesn't make this game easier, it makes it better.

Wait, looks like I found the problem.

[Edited on 02.22.2012 6:31 PM PST]

  • 02.22.2012 4:20 PM PDT

Well, I guess we can all agree on one simple thing. If it ain't broke, don't fix it!

  • 02.22.2012 5:05 PM PDT

Reach is 100% perfect, and the single most competitive game since Candyland. Anyone who dares question the godly powers of Bungie is obviously just bad at Halo.

I'm definitely doing better post-title update, but more important than that is I'm actually have fun on this game....like, as much as I had on Halo 2 and 3

  • 02.22.2012 6:29 PM PDT

Reach is 100% perfect, and the single most competitive game since Candyland. Anyone who dares question the godly powers of Bungie is obviously just bad at Halo.


Posted by: Stardriver 1
For the TU loving crowd.

Bungie told you long before the game came out that it was going to be different. You bought the game anyway and were "surprised" when it didn't play like the trilogy games. You complained to Bungie. Bungie held their ground. 343i took over, couldn't stand the complaining, and tried to adapt the game they didn't make to the complainers, with questionable success. Why, when they are making the next trilogy anyway?

You guys don't like Bungie's Reach because killing people was too hard. You couldn't let go of your H3 playstyle. Removing bloom and nerfing AA's makes it easier for everyone. Halo is supposed to be hard. You can't handle hard. You like easy. Apparently you like really easy. Pat yourselves on the back for making a hard game into an easy game. You deserve it.

Now, continue to tell everyone how good you are.

Hard game into an easy game? I fail to see how a game revolving around holding hands, using crutches, and getting lucky is harder than a game revolving around precision and teamwork....and I will tell you how good I am because your K/D is 0.62

Why is your K/D relevant? Because it proves that you have no -blam!- idea how high level gameplay works.

  • 02.22.2012 6:33 PM PDT

Personally, I like the TU. Reminds me of old style Halo.

  • 02.22.2012 6:49 PM PDT

@boomdeyadah

I say again - no bloom and nerfed AA's makes it easier for everyone to get kills. If you're bad you get kills. If you're good you get more kills faster. That's what you guys like. That's why you rage out when someone armor locks. You can't kill them. You have to wait. It slows down gameplay. Waahhh!

Yeah. I've got a low rank and a terrible K/D. It's no secret. It doesn't bother me. I'll still play. That's not the issue.

When I lose a game, for whatever reason, I don't cry to the developer to make the game easier for me. I play the hand I'm dealt. I paid attention to what Bungie said the game was going to be like. I didn't expect Halo 3.5 when I bought Reach. I don't think 343i has any business messing with Bungie's last Halo game. Anyone that didn't like it still has Halo 3. It plays the way you like. But no, you don't want to play the old game. You want to play the shiny new game, but you want the new game to play like the old game, even though it was not made that way.

When you resort to stat bashing that's the clearest indication that you have LOST the argument. Completely and utterly lost.

What's going to happen to Reach when Halo 4 ships. Reach's population drops to current Halo 3 levels. Maybe lower, we'll see. TU lovers will undoubtedly not touch Reach ever again. Why bother changing the game under those circumstances?

It's called the scorched earth policy. Haters don't like it and they don't want any vestige left when they leave. Admit it.

The TU did not make Reach better. It didn't make it worse, either. It just changed it. If you wanted it changed you're happy. If you didn't want it changed you're not. Fair enough. My point is that there was no point in changing it. None. The changes did NOT bring back the masses. The changes did NOT put Reach at the top of the charts. The changes did NOT make MLG jettison CoD and hump Reach's leg like a lovesick puppy. All it did was make some crybabies happy and confuse the hell out of everyone else. You don't need a 2.0 K/D to see that. If 343i had left Reach alone just about everyone playing now would still be playing because there's nothing else out there. Even if it dropped to Halo Wars levels it would not hurt the franchise. Everyone will buy Halo 4 when it ships just like they did when Reach shipped, because it will be NEW and because it will be HALO (and Master Chief will be back). Reach, good or bad, won't matter. Halo 4's success will depend on 343i. NOT Reach.

343i did not have to touch Reach. Some of us believe they shouldn't have. Bungie seemed to be able to handle the critics pretty well. 343i strikes me as kind of wussy. You might want to keep those Halo 3 disks handy.

  • 02.22.2012 8:33 PM PDT

Posted by: aBlueBookshelf
Goat was famous. Irie was infamous. Gh0st was FaMaS.

My stats in Halol 4

Typical Waypoint post.
no it's "its got to go" you wouldn't say the "it is got to go" would you?

This stardriver kid seems mad.

  • 02.22.2012 8:40 PM PDT


Posted by: SYN Burning Sky


Hard game into an easy game? I fail to see how a game revolving around holding hands, using crutches, and getting lucky is harder than a game revolving around precision and teamwork
Precision and teamwork is the point of Reach. Anyone you can't kill is using a crutch, and anyone that kills you is lucky. Did I get that right?

The game was hard because it's harder to kill the players using the crutches. That's why the crutches upset you. They make you work. They make you have to think of something else. You don't seem to have that capacity. YOUR crutch was to make them change the game.

....and I will tell you how good I am because your K/D is 0.62MY low K/D makes YOU good?

Why is your K/D relevant? Because it proves that you have no -blam!- idea how high level gameplay works.And what, exactly, makes you believe I give a rat's butt about high level gameplay? My K/D is low because I play campaign and tried to slug my way through Legendary solo right out of the box. I died a lot. When I go back in and play with all skulls on I expect my K/D will drop significantly. You wanna go ahead and alert the media?

  • 02.22.2012 8:55 PM PDT

Posted by: aBlueBookshelf
Goat was famous. Irie was infamous. Gh0st was FaMaS.

My stats in Halol 4

Typical Waypoint post.
no it's "its got to go" you wouldn't say the "it is got to go" would you?


Posted by: Stardriver 1

Posted by: SYN Burning Sky


Hard game into an easy game? I fail to see how a game revolving around holding hands, using crutches, and getting lucky is harder than a game revolving around precision and teamwork
Precision and teamwork is the point of Reach. Anyone you can't kill is using a crutch, and anyone that kills you is lucky. Did I get that right?

The game was hard because it's harder to kill the players using the crutches. That's why the crutches upset you. They make you work. They make you have to think of something else. You don't seem to have that capacity. YOUR crutch was to make them change the game.

....and I will tell you how good I am because your K/D is 0.62MY low K/D makes YOU good?

Why is your K/D relevant? Because it proves that you have no -blam!- idea how high level gameplay works.And what, exactly, makes you believe I give a rat's butt about high level gameplay? My K/D is low because I play campaign and tried to slug my way through Legendary solo right out of the box. I died a lot. When I go back in and play with all skulls on I expect my K/D will drop significantly. You wanna go ahead and alert the media?
lol you're so -blam!- retarded. Campaign has nothing to do with your matchmaking k/d dumbass.

  • 02.22.2012 8:56 PM PDT


Posted by: Gh0st is Bad
This stardriver kid seems mad.
Naa. Not mad. Irked maybe, but not mad.

BTW I'm probably older than your dad.

  • 02.22.2012 8:58 PM PDT

Posted by: aBlueBookshelf
Goat was famous. Irie was infamous. Gh0st was FaMaS.

My stats in Halol 4

Typical Waypoint post.
no it's "its got to go" you wouldn't say the "it is got to go" would you?


Posted by: Stardriver 1

Posted by: Gh0st is Bad
This stardriver kid seems mad.
Naa. Not mad. Irked maybe, but not mad.

BTW I'm probably older than your dad.
Cool. I guess that would make you dead.

You're still pretty mad, and still pretty retarded, so I don't know why you would say you're older than a corpse.

  • 02.22.2012 9:00 PM PDT

Leon > HUNK > Wesker > Ada > Jill > Claire > Chris

Noep

I love Vanilla Reach, the TU made it so the DMR > all, and tbh, I like some variety in my game. Not just the same gun over and over again. 343 cannot address certain things without addressing everything. They tried to make Halo 3 out of Reach, and failed to do so. Bleedthrough is ridiculous. the DMR is pretty much the only weapon people use, getting in a vehicle is pointless because a DMR will just destroy it, and camo is useless. No point to having an AA designed to hide you if you cannot be hidden well. When Team Slayer and Invasion go to TU, that's when Reach will be sold, and Halo 3 will become my main Halo until Halo 4. I want to play my way, not the DMR way.

inb4hatebecauseIdon'tlikeTUsettings

  • 02.22.2012 9:06 PM PDT


Posted by: Gh0st is Bad

lol you're so -blam!- retarded. Campaign has nothing to do with your matchmaking k/d dumbass.
I work in a school district, sometimes with students that actually have special needs. Out of respect we don't use that term since we are not medical professionals.

I'm not going to argue about my K/D since that's not the topic. If you want to discuss my K/D you should start another thread.

My point (regardless of my K/D or yours) is that the TU was pointless. If your K/D went up after the TU you weren't very good to begin with.

  • 02.22.2012 9:07 PM PDT


Posted by: Gh0st is Bad

Cool. I guess that would make you dead.

You're still pretty mad, and still pretty retarded, so I don't know why you would say you're older than a corpse.
Now who's mad?

  • 02.22.2012 9:09 PM PDT
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If it's not broken we'll fix until it is.

-Bungie


Posted by: Fahn777
TU is great. I have found that I've improved a bit since I began playing TU playlists (thank God TU is in Rumble Pit now).

I still suck, but whatever. At least my DMR spread has gone from -637 to only -98. A few more games and I'll finally break even.


Agreed, best thing to happen to RP.

I find myself raging a lot less since the TU.

  • 02.22.2012 9:09 PM PDT

Leon > HUNK > Wesker > Ada > Jill > Claire > Chris


Posted by: boomdeyadah
Posted by: Stardriver 1
Bungie told you long before the game came out that it was going to be different. You bought the game anyway and were "surprised" when it didn't play like the trilogy games.
There is good change, and then there is bad change. Reach was bad change.
You complained to Bungie. Bungie held their ground.No. Bungie didn't do anything because THEY COULDN'T. Their contract with MS was basically over after Noble Map Pack. They weren't allowed to alter the game after that.
343i took over, couldn't stand the complaining,lol 343 realized that more people like the old Halo gameplay and not massive bad changes. You should be thankful there is still bloom in TU.
You guys don't like Bungie's Reach because killing people was too hard.No, because randomness is BAD. Bloom = random = terrible competitive game (Note: Halo has always been a more competitive than casual game)
You couldn't let go of your H3 playstyle. Removing bloom and nerfing AA's makes it easier for everyone. Halo is supposed to be hard.No Halo is supposed to require some sort of skill. Not getting lucky and using a get out of jail free card to save you when you make bad mistakes.
You can't handle hard. You like easy. Apparently you like really easy. Pat yourselves on the back for making a hard game into an easy game. You deserve it.You are a -blam!- idiot. Please, just stop. TU doesn't make this game easier, it makes it better.

Wait, looks like I found the problem.

You need a crutch TU to make your DMR better than every gun in the game. That means you are asking to make a hard game easy.

  • 02.22.2012 9:13 PM PDT


Posted by: Leon Kennedy85

Posted by: boomdeyadah
Posted by: Stardriver 1
Bungie told you long before the game came out that it was going to be different. You bought the game anyway and were "surprised" when it didn't play like the trilogy games.
There is good change, and then there is bad change. Reach was bad change.
You complained to Bungie. Bungie held their ground.No. Bungie didn't do anything because THEY COULDN'T. Their contract with MS was basically over after Noble Map Pack. They weren't allowed to alter the game after that.
343i took over, couldn't stand the complaining,lol 343 realized that more people like the old Halo gameplay and not massive bad changes. You should be thankful there is still bloom in TU.
You guys don't like Bungie's Reach because killing people was too hard.No, because randomness is BAD. Bloom = random = terrible competitive game (Note: Halo has always been a more competitive than casual game)
You couldn't let go of your H3 playstyle. Removing bloom and nerfing AA's makes it easier for everyone. Halo is supposed to be hard.No Halo is supposed to require some sort of skill. Not getting lucky and using a get out of jail free card to save you when you make bad mistakes.
You can't handle hard. You like easy. Apparently you like really easy. Pat yourselves on the back for making a hard game into an easy game. You deserve it.You are a -blam!- idiot. Please, just stop. TU doesn't make this game easier, it makes it better.

Wait, looks like I found the problem.

You need a crutch TU to make your DMR better than every gun in the game. That means you are asking to make a hard game easy.


Nope, I just spam shot kids when they vote that garbage default reach

I will abuse the hell out of this game

:)

  • 02.22.2012 9:18 PM PDT

Mediocre Backpacker
56% W\L
2.86 k\d
3.18 DMR
7.29 God Magnum
7.79 Sniper
5.34 Needle Rifle

Why is it,that everyone that doesn't like the TU, is stupidly terrible? You'll just be written off as a retard.

[Edited on 02.22.2012 9:19 PM PST]

  • 02.22.2012 9:19 PM PDT

Leon > HUNK > Wesker > Ada > Jill > Claire > Chris


Posted by: Blackdog Rker
Why is it,that everyone that doesn't like the TU, is stupidly terrible? You'll just be written off as a retard.

Define terrible.

inb4youcan'tuseaprecesionweaponandrelyontheARbullethose

  • 02.22.2012 9:22 PM PDT

Mediocre Backpacker
56% W\L
2.86 k\d
3.18 DMR
7.29 God Magnum
7.79 Sniper
5.34 Needle Rifle


Posted by: Leon Kennedy85

Posted by: Blackdog Rker
Why is it,that everyone that doesn't like the TU, is stupidly terrible? You'll just be written off as a retard.

Define terrible.

inb4youcan'tuseaprecesionweaponandrelyontheARbullethose

Being one in nearly everything.

  • 02.22.2012 9:29 PM PDT


Posted by: Leon Kennedy85

Posted by: Blackdog Rker
Why is it,that everyone that doesn't like the TU, is stupidly terrible? You'll just be written off as a retard.

Define terrible.

inb4youcan'tuseaprecesionweaponandrelyontheARbullethose


Define terrible?

You're the definition.

  • 02.22.2012 9:31 PM PDT


Posted by: Leon Kennedy85

Posted by: boomdeyadah
Posted by: Stardriver 1
Bungie told you long before the game came out that it was going to be different. You bought the game anyway and were "surprised" when it didn't play like the trilogy games.
There is good change, and then there is bad change. Reach was bad change.
You complained to Bungie. Bungie held their ground.No. Bungie didn't do anything because THEY COULDN'T. Their contract with MS was basically over after Noble Map Pack. They weren't allowed to alter the game after that.
343i took over, couldn't stand the complaining,lol 343 realized that more people like the old Halo gameplay and not massive bad changes. You should be thankful there is still bloom in TU.
You guys don't like Bungie's Reach because killing people was too hard.No, because randomness is BAD. Bloom = random = terrible competitive game (Note: Halo has always been a more competitive than casual game)
You couldn't let go of your H3 playstyle. Removing bloom and nerfing AA's makes it easier for everyone. Halo is supposed to be hard.No Halo is supposed to require some sort of skill. Not getting lucky and using a get out of jail free card to save you when you make bad mistakes.
You can't handle hard. You like easy. Apparently you like really easy. Pat yourselves on the back for making a hard game into an easy game. You deserve it.You are a -blam!- idiot. Please, just stop. TU doesn't make this game easier, it makes it better.

Wait, looks like I found the problem.

You need a crutch TU to make your DMR better than every gun in the game. That means you are asking to make a hard game easy.
Bloom was the crutch, it gave bad players who couldn't aim more time to line up their shots and the chance of getting a lucky kill. TU's a step in the right direction but ultimately ZB is where it's at.

  • 02.22.2012 9:44 PM PDT
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I like ZB and TU.

85% and AA`s are crap IMO.

  • 02.22.2012 9:51 PM PDT

Posted by: Leon Kennedy85
You need a crutch TU to make your DMR better than every gun in the game. That means you are asking to make a hard game easy.
lol bloom is the crutch. Consistency >>>>>> inconsistency

You like bloom because you can get lucky kills off better players.

The fact that EVEN I can stat check Halo 3 is depressing.

  • 02.22.2012 9:51 PM PDT

love 4 shot needle rifle...

  • 02.23.2012 5:14 AM PDT