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Subject: It looks like TU is showing how bad/good everyone really is...

Remember a system called "Highest Skill"? Remember when one or two people had camo and not the whole team? Remember everyone had to climb up to the top of the map, NOT FLY? Remember when nobody could run faster than the other? Remember when you couldn't stall your own death? Remember when there was a variety of maps? Remember when we set our OWN challenges for fun, not by Bungie for credits? Remember when "General" meant something? Remember Halo...3? Forget Reach.

Posted by: tsujen
You can't adapt to something what is random.. Many people adapted to horrible bloom but wanted something better and we got it.

All thanks to 343i for the TU!

  • 02.23.2012 5:25 AM PDT

Remember a system called "Highest Skill"? Remember when one or two people had camo and not the whole team? Remember everyone had to climb up to the top of the map, NOT FLY? Remember when nobody could run faster than the other? Remember when you couldn't stall your own death? Remember when there was a variety of maps? Remember when we set our OWN challenges for fun, not by Bungie for credits? Remember when "General" meant something? Remember Halo...3? Forget Reach.

Posted by: Milky Bravo
love 4 shot needle rifle...

It's 7sk in both vanilla and TU (got fixed) and the magnum also got fixed to a 5sk, so what's your point?

  • 02.23.2012 5:26 AM PDT

~ Life is Killing Me. ~

~ I hate, therefore I am. ~

Once zero bloom hits SWAT, I'll be a God... ;)

I hate the TU playlists, Reach was just fine the way it was. But once it hits SWAT, it will be too easy to just run amok...

edit = early morning spelling...

[Edited on 02.23.2012 5:51 AM PST]

  • 02.23.2012 5:40 AM PDT

~ Life is Killing Me. ~

~ I hate, therefore I am. ~


Posted by: Leon Kennedy85
Noep

I love Vanilla Reach, the TU made it so the DMR > all, and tbh, I like some variety in my game. Not just the same gun over and over again. 343 cannot address certain things without addressing everything. They tried to make Halo 3 out of Reach, and failed to do so. Bleedthrough is ridiculous. the DMR is pretty much the only weapon people use, getting in a vehicle is pointless because a DMR will just destroy it, and camo is useless. No point to having an AA designed to hide you if you cannot be hidden well. When Team Slayer and Invasion go to TU, that's when Reach will be sold, and Halo 3 will become my main Halo until Halo 4. I want to play my way, not the DMR way.

inb4hatebecauseIdon'tlikeTUsettings


This. I hate the direction 343i is going with Halo.

I play Reach because the gameplay is/was great before 343 started pushing buttons. It's doubtful that I'll even pick up Halo 4. I'll probably just continue to play Halo 3 & Reach until the 360 servers for LIVE are shut off in favor of the next Xbox system.

It's sad too. Halo has been my absolute favorite series for the last decade, with Reach being at the pinnacle of that. It will actually break my heart when 343 drives it into its grave.

  • 02.23.2012 5:50 AM PDT
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Halo: Reach is the beginning of a new age for gaming.
It proves that developers can get away with punishing their players instead of fixing their game....and yet the fanboys will still sing praises to them.

-blam!- all of you fanboys!

Stupid -blam!-s couldn't adapt to one weapon having a VERY MINOR random element added to it.

How -blam!- -blam!- is that?

That your entire experience and enjoyment of this game all pretty much rode on ONE WEAPON with a little bit of bloom...

ARE YOU PEOPLE -blam!- SERIOUS!

Then I try to explain to you that...hey. TEAMWORK OVERCOMES BLOOM!

Who complains the most about bloom?
People who have teamwork up the ASS!
Who are the people with a team, saying that it is helping out the most?
People who have no teamwork

"I get randomly beat by some noob in a 1v1 DMR battle....boo hoo!"

THEN TELL YOUR -blam!- MLG FRIENDS TO DO THEIR -blam!- JOBS AND ACT LIKE A -blam!- TEAM! INSTEAD OF A BUNCH OF TRY-HARD RAMBO'S WITH SOMETHING TO PROVE.

It's as though owning a bunch of random noobs isn't enough for you people...you also have to show up everyone else on your team as well. And because of that need to stroke your e-peen amongst yourselfs you refuse to use actuall TEAMWORK when you play this game.

You're all -blam!- idiots.


Do you -blam!- crybabies not have this need to get more kills than someone else on the same team as you? Well guess what? It's that mentality that -blam!- everything up.

And now...because you all think bullets should fly straight out of the barrel every time you pull the trigger...

You know what, we may as well just go back to playing those stupid ass inst-gib laser gametypes from the Unreal days.

Because that's exactly where your -blam!- opinions lead.

[Edited on 02.23.2012 6:07 AM PST]

  • 02.23.2012 5:56 AM PDT

Frank O'Connor said he doesn't think the Halo series needs to be taken in a radical new direction... it just needs to go "deeper"

"Ultimately the core game mechanic and strength of the universe doesn't need to be changed, it just needs to be taken deeper. We want to make Halo games - we don't want to make Call of Duty or Ridge Racer. We want to make Halo games because we understand what's special about Halo."

Posted by: Falerin
Okay, you got me.


I deserve to play what I paid for because the caretakers of Halo now, 343i, said I would still be able to. Both settings would still be playable in MM. This is quickly becoming a lie.

Slayer DLC.

  • 02.23.2012 6:01 AM PDT


Posted by: MR E0S


still raging i see.

  • 02.23.2012 6:05 AM PDT

This sig will Self-Destruct in 3.... 2.... 1.... Thank you for your time. Cookie?

Posted by: Leon Kennedy85
Noep

I love Vanilla Reach, the TU made it so the DMR > all, and tbh, I like some variety in my game. Not just the same gun over and over again. 343 cannot address certain things without addressing everything. They tried to make Halo 3 out of Reach, and failed to do so. Bleedthrough is ridiculous. the DMR is pretty much the only weapon people use, getting in a vehicle is pointless because a DMR will just destroy it, and camo is useless. No point to having an AA designed to hide you if you cannot be hidden well. When Team Slayer and Invasion go to TU, that's when Reach will be sold, and Halo 3 will become my main Halo until Halo 4. I want to play my way, not the DMR way.

inb4hatebecauseIdon'tlikeTUsettings


tbh...

1) Halo has always been about precision weapons. In Halo 1, it was the Pistol. In 2 and 3, it was the BR. In ODST, it was the Magnum. In Reach, it was the DMR. No one's really ever complained about the fact that automatic weapons are nerfed in comparison to their automatic weapon counterparts, and I do like it that way. This isn't like CoD, where automatic weapons are worth -blam!- since everyone dies within a few shots and a half. You need precision and those headshots or that person can very well turn around and empty five shells into you.

2) Bleedthrough is just fine. If you keep getting killed by bleedthrough, you're either taking too many grenades to the face or are getting hit too much. It's not working against you; you're just overestimating how good of a strafer you are.

3) lol Vehicles are useless? Say that to a conditioned Warthog or Banshee. Even if all DMRs went ZB, a good Banshee or Warthog can get at least ten good kills before they go down. Don't even get me start on the lolScorpion.

4) Camo was ALWAYS useless. tbh, only casuals and idiots fall for camo. Once you've seen it seven or so times, you know what to look for, and suddenly that AA is lolbad. The only time it's useful is during sniping, but even then a good countersniper will kill you 9 times out of 10.

  • 02.23.2012 6:14 AM PDT
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Halo: Reach is the beginning of a new age for gaming.
It proves that developers can get away with punishing their players instead of fixing their game....and yet the fanboys will still sing praises to them.

-blam!- all of you fanboys!

ThunderCavaler.

STFU.

A good countersniper is going to win 9 out 10 times against a sniper who is using invis aa???

no... really STFU.

Congrats on your new DMR:Reach game.

[Edited on 02.23.2012 6:19 AM PST]

  • 02.23.2012 6:17 AM PDT

True. Zero bloom shows it even more.

  • 02.23.2012 7:04 AM PDT
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I play games for gameplay, not silly gimmicks

H3 MM warrior

Reach S7, 8 and 9 arena warrior.

H4 MM legend

We adapted to the crappy default settings. We still dominated with things like 100% bloom, AL, and jetpack.

We wanted something better, and here it is. The TU actually makes reach somewhat playable, and I found that when I actually got on the other day I was able to enjoy myself without raging, or being mad at too many stupid gameplay features.

This game is by no means Halo 3, and in no way resembles such. However its a good start to how Reach should have been to begin with.

  • 02.23.2012 7:10 AM PDT
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I play games for gameplay, not silly gimmicks

H3 MM warrior

Reach S7, 8 and 9 arena warrior.

H4 MM legend


Posted by: MR E0S
Stupid -blam!-s couldn't adapt to one weapon having a VERY MINOR random element added to it.


minor? No. Besides we did, thats why anyone who is good was still top onyx players....

How -blam!- -blam!- is that?

That your entire experience and enjoyment of this game all pretty much rode on ONE WEAPON with a little bit of bloom...


No, it was a multitude of things ranging from bloom, to bad maps, to beatdowns, to AAs, to sword block, and more.



ARE YOU PEOPLE -blam!- SERIOUS!

Then I try to explain to you that...hey. TEAMWORK OVERCOMES BLOOM!


Having teamwork doesnt make bloom go away. There is a reason I was single digit onyx every season.... Ill give you a hint. I have better teamwork than you. Doesnt make bloom less broken.

Who complains the most about bloom?
People who have teamwork up the ASS!
Who are the people with a team, saying that it is helping out the most?
People who have no teamwork

"I get randomly beat by some noob in a 1v1 DMR battle....boo hoo!"


If you know how to play reach, you very rarely end up in a 1v1 to begin with. And people with the most teamwork (the good players) are the ones complaining about bloom.



THEN TELL YOUR -blam!- MLG FRIENDS TO DO THEIR -blam!- JOBS AND ACT LIKE A -blam!- TEAM! INSTEAD OF A BUNCH OF TRY-HARD RAMBO'S WITH SOMETHING TO PROVE.


Unless you are playing with pretzels or whale(sometimes) there arent a whole lot of good players who do this. And those 2 are really good at going rambo.

It's as though owning a bunch of random noobs isn't enough for you people...you also have to show up everyone else on your team as well. And because of that need to stroke your e-peen amongst yourselfs you refuse to use actuall TEAMWORK when you play this game.


You wouldnt get 5 kills on a good team. Our teamwork is much better than yours.

You're all -blam!- idiots.


thats not nice


Do you -blam!- crybabies not have this need to get more kills than someone else on the same team as you? Well guess what? It's that mentality that -blam!- everything up.


We dont care about who ends up with the most kills... We only care about winning and having good chemistry. If you were half decent, you would know that.

And now...because you all think bullets should fly straight out of the barrel every time you pull the trigger...


I was fine with spread. Bloom is retarded, especially in halo.

You know what, we may as well just go back to playing those stupid ass inst-gib laser gametypes from the Unreal days.

Because that's exactly where your -blam!- opinions lead.


Thats where you claim our opinions lead. Too bad you actually have no idea what you are talking about.

  • 02.23.2012 7:21 AM PDT

Posted by: Recon Number 54
Life is a journey, if you spend all of it with your nose in your map, you may miss some of the best parts.


Posted by: MR E0S


Every time you enter a thread, I lose IQ points.

  • 02.23.2012 7:31 AM PDT

Breaking barriers.

I much prefer the title update. I've only had three instances where bloom lost me a kill in over 2 weeks. In vanilla reach it was 3 times per game...

  • 02.23.2012 8:18 AM PDT

I don't mind the update, though I do prefer it over the vanilla Reach. I just don't understand why so many are going on and on like its frigging judgement day or something?

  • 02.23.2012 8:23 AM PDT

Posted by: CultMiester4000
I'm not really an Apple person (Bananas forever) but damn, that's kinda sad.

TU is better is some ways, but it has numerous faults that were not addressed/were created

[Edited on 02.23.2012 9:18 AM PST]

  • 02.23.2012 9:18 AM PDT

"Before you insult someone, try walking a mile in their shoes. This way, when you insult them, you are a mile away and have their shoes."


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Posted by: Falerin
I deserve to play default settings because it's what I paid for.
lol. Devs can freely change the game to whatever they like.


Bungie changed the Halo formula with Reach to fit what they wanted, yet a small forum minority whined and got it changed. Statement is not really true.

  • 02.23.2012 9:21 AM PDT

"Before you insult someone, try walking a mile in their shoes. This way, when you insult them, you are a mile away and have their shoes."


Posted by: RustedEdge

Posted by: MR E0S


Every time you enter a thread, I lose IQ points.


It's amazing enough people like you know what IQ stands for.

  • 02.23.2012 9:21 AM PDT

Tin shacks and catfish bones.


Posted by: Mikelp_1
I find their arguments funnier.

"TU shouldn't exist. I should get MY way because the competitive players got their way. If only I could think of a legitimate reason to why my way is better. Nah, I'd rather just say that the competitive community couldn't adapt to Vanilla Reach."


So it goes both ways. Amazing...

  • 02.23.2012 9:22 AM PDT

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This thread reminds me of the old your K/D sucks therefore you have no opinion argument.


I prefer the TU and I suck, what does that mean?

  • 02.23.2012 9:29 AM PDT

Posted by: CultMiester4000
I'm not really an Apple person (Bananas forever) but damn, that's kinda sad.


Posted by: analbumcover
I prefer the TU and I suck, what does that mean?


It means your opinion is obviously invalid :3

  • 02.23.2012 9:30 AM PDT

The Title Update is alright. The only problem that I can't get over is how powerful the melee is. I feel that I shouldn't die with roughly half my shield still present. I feel it took 3 melee pummels to kill someone with full shield in Halo 3 (If I'm mistaken, please tell me)? Also, I feel bloom should be taken out? Is the purpose of bloom is that they didn't want people to be spamming the trigger the whole time? Well, it didn't work. Honestly, if you can keep your controller and hand steady, and consistently keep the reticle on top of a person; then the player ought to get the kill, point, or whatever.

  • 02.23.2012 9:54 AM PDT

I am from Mars, that is why I wear red and was issued the MJOLNIR Powered Assault Armor/M variant helmet, was also issued the experimental version of the Camo unit, that is why i have the Recon shoulder. I excel at CQB, hence the CQC shoulder. I have trained extensively with operation of vehicles therefore the armor on my left side is more substantial and the GPS navigator. the ODST chest is because I was embedded with a unit from the 105TH for 7 SpecOP missions, I have a great respect for them

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Posted by: analbumcover
This thread reminds me of the old your K/D sucks therefore you have no opinion argument.


I prefer the TU and I suck, what does that mean?

  • 02.23.2012 10:57 AM PDT
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Posted by: analbumcover
This thread reminds me of the old your K/D sucks therefore you have no opinion argument.


I prefer the TU and I suck, what does that mean?

Your brain can see logic. That's what it means.

  • 02.23.2012 11:01 AM PDT


Posted by: MR E0S

And now...because you all think bullets should fly straight out of the barrel every time you pull the trigger...

Is that really too much to ask? Really?

  • 02.23.2012 11:20 AM PDT