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Subject: It looks like TU is showing how bad/good everyone really is...
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Posted by: MR E0S

And now...because you all think bullets should fly straight out of the barrel every time you pull the trigger...

Is that really too much to ask? Really?

Bullets going where you point them?

Why would you want that?

Only trolls think aiming should be taken into account with bullet trajectory.

  • 02.23.2012 11:24 AM PDT

Posted by: CultMiester4000
I'm not really an Apple person (Bananas forever) but damn, that's kinda sad.

Only retards think weapons shouldn't have limiting factors :D

  • 02.23.2012 11:34 AM PDT
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Posted by: ParagonRenegade
Only retards think weapons shouldn't have limiting factors :D

We're not saying that the DMR or any other weapon should cause instant death the moment it is used, but saying that bullets shouldn't go where you have aimed them is ridiculous.

What is the point of the targeting reticle if the bullets can miss at five feet while perfectly aimed?

  • 02.23.2012 11:39 AM PDT

Posted by: CultMiester4000
I'm not really an Apple person (Bananas forever) but damn, that's kinda sad.


Posted by: RC Clone

Posted by: ParagonRenegade
Only retards think weapons shouldn't have limiting factors :D

We're not saying that the DMR or any other weapon should cause instant death the moment it is used, but saying that bullets shouldn't go where you have aimed them is ridiculous.

What is the point of the targeting reticle if the bullets can miss at five feet while perfectly aimed?


Wasn't supporting bloom, but you guy seem to forget Reach's sandbox is completely broken without it :D

  • 02.23.2012 11:45 AM PDT
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Posted by: ParagonRenegade

Posted by: RC Clone

Posted by: ParagonRenegade
Only retards think weapons shouldn't have limiting factors :D

We're not saying that the DMR or any other weapon should cause instant death the moment it is used, but saying that bullets shouldn't go where you have aimed them is ridiculous.

What is the point of the targeting reticle if the bullets can miss at five feet while perfectly aimed?


Wasn't supporting bloom, but you guy seem to forget Reach's sandbox is completely broken without it :D
Implying Reach's sandbox was not already broken with bloom.

[Edited on 02.23.2012 11:52 AM PST]

  • 02.23.2012 11:52 AM PDT

Posted by: CultMiester4000
I'm not really an Apple person (Bananas forever) but damn, that's kinda sad.


Posted by: Negative 9
Implying Reach's sandbox was not already broken with bloom.


Wasn't great, but it was better than in ZB

  • 02.23.2012 11:54 AM PDT
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Posted by: ParagonRenegade

Posted by: Negative 9
Implying Reach's sandbox was not already broken with bloom.


Wasn't great, but it was better than in ZB

Only because ZB speeds up the kills times but leaves other weapons with ridiculously slow kill times.

  • 02.23.2012 12:05 PM PDT

i am a veteran halo player, and TU bloom is more enjoyable than ZB....the game should take some skill while shooting but not the epic randomness of vanilla reach

  • 02.23.2012 12:13 PM PDT

Oh hey look, another topic badmouthing people who don't like the TU. Bloom is great. 85% bloom is great. ZB sucks.

You call TU Reach competitive. They made it EASIER for you to hit your target. If anything, Vanilla was more competitive, because you had to pace your shots more. Maybe you were bad at Vanilla?

The TU isn't all that bad. I just hate people like you who think that others that don't agree with them must be bad.

I would be happy with the TU if they nerfed the freakin pummeling. That is the ONE thing that makes me hate the TU.
How can anyone like playing when you get shot with an AR maybe 6 times, then die by a single pummel. While you had full health and roughly half shields.

  • 02.23.2012 1:01 PM PDT

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Bungie created the host-selection system.

And you know this how?


LOL, Mains kids


Posted by: Falerin
I deserve to play default settings because it's what I paid for.
I deserve to play Halo because that's what I paid for.

  • 02.23.2012 1:18 PM PDT

Posted by: LordMonkey
Posted by: ICanHasRofl
Bungie created the host-selection system.

And you know this how?


LOL, Mains kids


Posted by: wdPaul21
Bloom is great. 85% bloom is great. ZB sucks.
lol, go away with this stupidity.

You call TU Reach competitive. They made it EASIER for you to hit your target. If anything, Vanilla was more competitive, because you had to pace your shots more. Maybe you were bad at Vanilla?
I'm not even going to stat check you, but I know you're a colonel or worse, or a silver kid.

Having to aim faster is more skillful than pacing your shots (which no one good did anyway because bloom was retardedly broken).

Get outta here with your stupidity.

  • 02.23.2012 1:20 PM PDT

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Posted by: wdPaul21
Oh hey look, another topic badmouthing people who don't like the TU. Bloom is great. 85% bloom is great. ZB sucks.

You call TU Reach competitive. They made it EASIER for you to hit your target. If anything, Vanilla was more competitive, because you had to pace your shots more. Maybe you were bad at Vanilla?

The TU isn't all that bad. I just hate people like you who think that others that don't agree with them must be bad.

I would be happy with the TU if they nerfed the freakin pummeling. That is the ONE thing that makes me hate the TU.
How can anyone like playing when you get shot with an AR maybe 6 times, then die by a single pummel. While you had full health and roughly half shields.


This.

  • 02.23.2012 1:22 PM PDT

Wow this thread struck a lot of nerves. Good. It should. Everyone is complaining because of that beat down strength after shooting someone. That's how powerful the beat down used to be in the early Halos. Players now have been so jaded with half-power fighting that it has become a shock to them to see what its like using a full strength hit. Same with aiming. You take out that bloom and the player actually has to get good at aiming and firing. You reduce the handouts and whiners keep whining. Its fun to read.

[Edited on 02.23.2012 1:23 PM PST]

  • 02.23.2012 1:22 PM PDT

Posted by: LordMonkey
Posted by: ICanHasRofl
Bungie created the host-selection system.

And you know this how?


LOL, Mains kids


Posted by: Uriel S167

Posted by: wdPaul21
Oh hey look, another topic badmouthing people who don't like the TU. Bloom is great. 85% bloom is great. ZB sucks.

You call TU Reach competitive. They made it EASIER for you to hit your target. If anything, Vanilla was more competitive, because you had to pace your shots more. Maybe you were bad at Vanilla?

The TU isn't all that bad. I just hate people like you who think that others that don't agree with them must be bad.

I would be happy with the TU if they nerfed the freakin pummeling. That is the ONE thing that makes me hate the TU.
How can anyone like playing when you get shot with an AR maybe 6 times, then die by a single pummel. While you had full health and roughly half shields.


This.
Why your opinion is invalid about anything Halo related.

  • 02.23.2012 1:24 PM PDT

Posted by: wdPaul21
I would be happy with the TU if they nerfed the freakin pummeling. That is the ONE thing that makes me hate the TU.
How can anyone like playing when you get shot with an AR maybe 6 times, then die by a single pummel. While you had full health and roughly half shields.
3 DMR shots + melee = 1 melee <<<< 3 DMR shots + melee = kill

Adapt.

  • 02.23.2012 1:25 PM PDT


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Posted by: Falerin
I deserve to play default settings because it's what I paid for.
I deserve to play Halo because that's what I paid for.

Inb4 BUT RAECH IS A HALO GAEM

  • 02.23.2012 1:25 PM PDT

Posted by: LordMonkey
Posted by: ICanHasRofl
Bungie created the host-selection system.

And you know this how?


LOL, Mains kids


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Posted by: Rage Twin 2

Posted by: Falerin
I deserve to play default settings because it's what I paid for.
I deserve to play Halo because that's what I paid for.

Inb4 BUT RAECH IS A HALO GAEM
We just can't adapt to it.

Oh, wait, adapt? Multiple Onyx placements. Decent w/l. High k/d. I think I've adapted better.

Oh...Adapt?

You mean blow Bungie and ignore everything that is bad about the game pre TU?

GOTCHA.

If that's the case, I've never adapted.

  • 02.23.2012 1:28 PM PDT


Posted by: VexedNytemare
In my opinion, the people complaining the most about TU simply aren't good enough. Good players adapt and don't complain. If you can't adapt and still play at a high level then you don't deserve a competitive shooter game. You deserve the original settings to Reach.
By your own argument, failing to adapt to the original settings means you're not a good player.

I wonder what would have happened if, instead of 343i trying to reproduce Halo 3 settings they had focused their attention on better matchmaking, better maps, tougher vehicles...

Would the population be any different than it is now? Better? Worse? Clearly the TU has not increased population. If the game is now "better", where are all those people who left? If the Halo 3 settings are so great, why doesn't anyone play it? It's still there.

If your stats improved after the TU, what does that say about your performance pre-TU? If they reset everything back the way it was would you be able to maintain your stats? Or would you just stop playing?

If YOU stopped playing would Reach die? Would that matter?

  • 02.23.2012 1:31 PM PDT
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Meagss brought the real talk ITT.

  • 02.23.2012 1:38 PM PDT


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Posted by: wdPaul21
I would be happy with the TU if they nerfed the freakin pummeling. That is the ONE thing that makes me hate the TU.
How can anyone like playing when you get shot with an AR maybe 6 times, then die by a single pummel. While you had full health and roughly half shields.
3 DMR shots + melee = 1 melee <<<< 3 DMR shots + melee = kill

Adapt.


Adapt, really? That seems to be the most common and annoying thing on this forum.

I guess I should put this in a way that you understand:

3 DMR shots + melee = 1 melee < 3 DMR shots + melee = kill

but

3 DMR shots + melee = kill < 3 DMR shots + melee = broken shield and some health damage

I'm not saying Vanilla pummeling was perfect. I hate noobs who double pummel for kills. But now, they have effectively made pummeling even more overpowered.

This way would be better than current TU settings. Oh wait, just tell me to adapt. I have adapted. I still play the game. I just think the game took a step backward instead of forward. That's irrelevant though, right, because all anyway says is adapt.

  • 02.23.2012 2:13 PM PDT
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Posted by: VexedNytemare
In my opinion, the people complaining the most about TU simply aren't good enough. Good players adapt and don't complain. If you can't adapt and still play at a high level then you don't deserve a competitive shooter game. You deserve the original settings to Reach.


I'm reading this, the title of the thread, and I'm going to agree 110% of the way.

The people struggling with the TU settings are no longer getting lucky kills/surviving (AL, what up?) on some BS. It's time to actually aim (85% bloom) and shoot your gun instead of double pummel (welcome, bleedthrough) as well as run and hide when you're in trouble (adios AL invincibility).

My advice to the kids struggling with the TU settings:

Learn to keep your head down. Learn how to sprint away from a battle and put walls between you and the kid that almost just DMR'd you to death. And for god's sake, go into FF or Campaign and learn how to aim/kill -blam!- with a precision weapon. Or go into BTB where the game is horribly slow and your chances of a 1v1 encounter are high.

  • 02.23.2012 2:19 PM PDT

Posted by: CultMiester4000
I'm not really an Apple person (Bananas forever) but damn, that's kinda sad.

TU is unbalanced and half-assed

  • 02.23.2012 2:24 PM PDT

"I'm reading this, the title of the thread, and I'm going to agree 110% of the way.

The people struggling with the TU settings are no longer getting lucky kills/surviving (AL, what up?) on some BS. It's time to actually aim (85% bloom) and shoot your gun instead of double pummel (welcome, bleedthrough) as well as run and hide when you're in trouble (adios AL invincibility).

My advice to the kids struggling with the TU settings:

Learn to keep your head down. Learn how to sprint away from a battle and put walls between you and the kid that almost just DMR'd you to death. And for god's sake, go into FF or Campaign and learn how to aim/kill -blam!- with a precision weapon. Or go into BTB where the game is horribly slow and your chances of a 1v1 encounter are high."

I'm glad you understand. People just get angry when they don't understand something. They take it as a threat. You see the truth.

[Edited on 02.23.2012 2:26 PM PST]

  • 02.23.2012 2:24 PM PDT

Forget it man, and get with the countdown. Shake this square world and blast off for Kicksville.

Reach host ranking algorithm: (a*quit_percentage + b*isMexican + c*(1/KDR) + d*hasGuest) * 100
where a > b = d > c

Posted by: ParagonRenegade
My posts are half-assed

You just don't try like you used to :(

  • 02.23.2012 2:29 PM PDT

Posted by: CultMiester4000
I'm not really an Apple person (Bananas forever) but damn, that's kinda sad.


Posted by: Sentox6
Posted by: ParagonRenegade
My posts are half-assed

You just don't try like you used to :(


I rely on reputation now :3

But really, it's half-assed

[Edited on 02.23.2012 2:55 PM PST]

  • 02.23.2012 2:55 PM PDT