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Subject: Why can't we have a Filter/Block function?

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Posted by: spartain ken 15
1st point: If someone is being a Jerk, they are breaking the rule "Don't be a Jerk" and you should PM a mod. If it gets too bad, that user may face moderation.

This is poor assumption. You are suggesting that the only reason a user would want to block someone is if they're being a "jerk". This isn't the case; there are a number of other reasons a user may want to block another. It's up to them to decide in order to make their experience greater.

Not only that, but this function would reduce the amount of problems the moderators have to deal with, giving themselves more time to discuss topics within the community; and solely focus on stopping users who go severely against the CoC.

2nd point: No one said you have to respond to any user. YOU are the best ignore feature.
Not everyone has the luxury or man-power to simply by-pass all posts by each user they want to block. It's inconvenient, and if they're doing this already, then it'd be no different to adding an ignore feature, which would give a user convenience; something which is logical and a must.

[Edited on 02.23.2012 2:59 PM PST]

  • 02.23.2012 2:58 PM PDT

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Cause any member could just block any opposing opinions, and live in an ignorant blissful utopia of ignorance.

Oh? You respectfully disagree with me and bring up many good points? BLOCK.

Oh? You like armour lock? BLOCK.

I believe there has been a long topic about this before, where Achronos responded.

  • 02.23.2012 3:02 PM PDT

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Posted by: POKEY CLYDE
Cause any member could just block any opposing opinions, and live in an ignorant blissful utopia of ignorance.

Oh? You respectfully disagree with me and bring up many good points? BLOCK.

Oh? You like armour lock? BLOCK.

It's not going to effect anyone else on the site, so who cares if someone uses it to see "how many members they can block" or if they choose to block other members for having a "Z" in their username? If a user does that, then that is that one users problem.

  • 02.23.2012 3:06 PM PDT

It's not can't. It's don't.

  • 02.23.2012 3:08 PM PDT
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Posted by: POKEY CLYDE
Cause any member could just block any opposing opinions, and live in an ignorant blissful utopia of ignorance.

Oh? You respectfully disagree with me and bring up many good points? BLOCK.

Oh? You like armour lock? BLOCK.

I believe there has been a long topic about this before, where Achronos responded.
Idiots will be idiots.


Posted by: Zealot Tony

Posted by: POKEY CLYDE
Cause any member could just block any opposing opinions, and live in an ignorant blissful utopia of ignorance.

Oh? You respectfully disagree with me and bring up many good points? BLOCK.

Oh? You like armour lock? BLOCK.

It's not going to effect anyone else on the site, so who cares if someone uses it to see "how many members they can block" or if they choose to block other members for having a "Z" in their username? If a user does that, then that is that one users problem.
What he said.

[Edited on 02.23.2012 3:10 PM PST]

  • 02.23.2012 3:09 PM PDT


Posted by: POKEY CLYDE
Cause any member could just block any opposing opinions, and live in an ignorant blissful utopia of ignorance.

Oh? You respectfully disagree with me and bring up many good points? BLOCK.

Oh? You like armour lock? BLOCK.

I believe there has been a long topic about this before, where Achronos responded.


If they're the type of person who would do this, then chances are I don't want to talk to them anyways. Why come to a discussion forum if you don't want to discuss anything?

  • 02.23.2012 3:11 PM PDT
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Posted by: POKEY CLYDE
Cause any member could just block any opposing opinions, and live in an ignorant blissful utopia of ignorance.

Oh? You respectfully disagree with me and bring up many good points? BLOCK.

Oh? You like armour lock? BLOCK.

I believe there has been a long topic about this before, where Achronos responded.


If they're the type of person who would do this, then chances are I don't want to talk to them anyways. Why come to a discussion forum if you don't want to discuss anything?
Indeed, plus you wouldn't even know if you were blocked.

  • 02.23.2012 3:13 PM PDT

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Posted by: Zealot Tony
It's not going to effect anyone else on the site,
It affects the users that use it. Why grow with the community and become more mature, more open minded, why learn restraint to reply to spam or restraint to flame? When you can stay the same immature user who only allows a certain flow of information to them?

If an ignore feature was allowed way back when, when I joined. I would be a much different user. My spelling and grammar would not be as good as it is now. I would probably constantly flame other users, then block them. I would be the cancer that is most new users to Bungie.

Learn and grow when we don't have the Utopian forum, where everyone agrees on everything and you're never wrong, because if you are wrong, you just block the people who disagree with you, or point out how wrong you are.

It's like getting rid of all the friends who don't praise everything you ever do, but give you constructive criticism. Without constructive criticism, no one ever learns, or becomes better.

(Also: side point, lets say I block a user, and they come up with a really great thread that I would be interested in being a part of. I don't know he made it, so I can't be a part of it. And I miss out.)

  • 02.23.2012 3:17 PM PDT

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Posted by: spartain ken 15
1st point: If someone is being a Jerk, they are breaking the rule "Don't be a Jerk" and you should PM a mod. If it gets too bad, that user may face moderation.
Stop. Talking. About. The. Rules.

Seriously. Stop.

This discussion is not about the rules in ANY way WHATSOEVER and your continued defense of your stance by thrusting verses from the rules at us as if it lends anything to your argument is becoming quite a bit silly.


2nd point: No one said you have to respond to any user. YOU are the best ignore feature.
We don't need avatars. YOUR PERSONALITY is the best way to be unique.

We don't need the little flaming webmaster next to threads with 51+ replies. YOU are the best determinant of what is or is not a "hot topic."

If knowledgeable enough, a person, by hand, without making any mistakes, could most likely produce a more quality product (cars, toys, furniture, what have you) than a machine. But we build these machines to make our lives easier.

Your argument of "YOU are the best ignore feature" is silly and goes against the technological trends of mankind since the beginning of time.


But at this point I don't care. I really do not think we need an ignore feature, it is not right for Bungie.net, but everyone wants it.


NOBODY has said that we need this. Stop using things that NOBODY is saying or implying as a base upon which to launch a rebuttal.

  • 02.23.2012 3:19 PM PDT

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Posted by: POKEY CLYDE
Cause any member could just block any opposing opinions, and live in an ignorant blissful utopia of ignorance.

Oh? You respectfully disagree with me and bring up many good points? BLOCK.

Oh? You like armour lock? BLOCK.

I believe there has been a long topic about this before, where Achronos responded.
That's not what this feature would be used for by the vast majority of people on the site and even if they did use it in that manner, it only effects them.

If someone is going to be so immature as to block someone over a petty dispute about armor lock, is that really the kind of person you're going to cry over not being able to converse with anymore? The kind of people who would do that could be completely excluded from all discussion with anyone and everyone and the community would not be affected at all.

  • 02.23.2012 3:23 PM PDT

It isn't a matter of 'why can't we.' Achronos has said plenty of times that he wants to implement such a feature. It just hasn't happened yet that's all.

  • 02.23.2012 3:33 PM PDT

Ugh...

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ODST;MYTHIC Screenshot winner! One of the first to get their hands on the mythic map pack.

Huge thread about the exact same feature being discussed by many, with MANY posts by Achronos

He agrees that this feature would be good, but he also has some worries that I have. The forums becoming an 'echo chamber' for users who abuse this feature.

Enjoy.

  • 02.23.2012 3:33 PM PDT

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  • 02.23.2012 3:36 PM PDT

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Posted by: POKEY CLYDE
Huge thread about the exact same feature being discussed by many, with MANY posts by Achronos

He agrees that this feature would be good, but he also has some worries that I have. The forums becoming an 'echo chamber' for users who abuse this feature.

Enjoy.

How can someone abuse this? Is this the new method of self-abuse for you kiddies?

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Posted by: POKEY CLYDE
Huge thread about the exact same feature being discussed by many, with MANY posts by Achronos

He agrees that this feature would be good, but he also has some worries that I have. The forums becoming an 'echo chamber' for users who abuse this feature.

Enjoy.
Impossible to abuse.

  • 02.23.2012 3:45 PM PDT

"We live in a special time; the only time where we can observationally verify that we live in a very special time" - Lawrence Krauss.

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Posted by: POKEY CLYDE
It affects the users that use it. Why grow with the community and become more mature, more open minded, why learn restraint to reply to spam or restraint to flame? When you can stay the same immature user who only allows a certain flow of information to them?

Why have to learn restraint from people who bother a user to begin with? You shouldn't have to deal with people who are a constant nuisance to you. This is a problem which may (and probably has) drive members away from a community to begin with.

It's not immature; it's about enhancing a users experience. One shouldn't have to resort to restraining from flaming, abuse, or replying to spam if there is something which can stop a user altogether; and it's hard to grow when you have to put up with it all the time. Every user has a threshold where they are going to go from "maturing" (via restraint), to plain out attack, and possibly getting themselves in trouble. Something like this feature would minimise this problem.

However, I'd only be in support of it if it had a toggle at will option.

  • 02.23.2012 3:47 PM PDT
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Posted by: Zealot Tony

Posted by: POKEY CLYDE
It affects the users that use it. Why grow with the community and become more mature, more open minded, why learn restraint to reply to spam or restraint to flame? When you can stay the same immature user who only allows a certain flow of information to them?

Why have to learn restraint from people who bother a user to begin with? You shouldn't have to deal with people who are a constant nuisance to you. This is a problem which may (and probably has) drive members away from a community to begin with.

It's not immature; it's about enhancing a users experience. One shouldn't have to resort to restraining from flaming, abuse, or replying to spam if there is something which can stop a user altogether; and it's hard to grow when you have to put up with it all the time. Every user has a threshold where they are going to go from "maturing" (via restraint), to plain out attack, and possibly getting themselves in trouble. Something like this feature would minimise this problem.

However, I'd only be in support of it if it had a toggle at will option.
I refer you to...



Posted by: Terran Marine
Wait OP, do you want the post like the blacklist notice? Completely blocked?




I had a suggestion a while back in which ignored users would be collapsed just like a reported user...it would be like a cookie on your browser that lists all the users you've chosen to ignore.

  • 02.23.2012 3:52 PM PDT

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No, I think it is a good idea but not for this Dev site...

  • 02.23.2012 3:59 PM PDT

Ugh...

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Posted by: Terran Marine
Wait OP, do you want the post like the blacklist notice? Completely blocked?




I had a suggestion a while back in which ignored users would be collapsed just like a reported user...it would be like a cookie on your browser that lists all the users you've chosen to ignore.
This sounds like a good idea.

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Posted by: POKEY CLYDE
Posted by: Terran Marine
Wait OP, do you want the post like the blacklist notice? Completely blocked?




I had a suggestion a while back in which ignored users would be collapsed just like a reported user...it would be like a cookie on your browser that lists all the users you've chosen to ignore.
This sounds like a good idea.
I'm not internet savvy...but that would be what a cookie is right?

  • 02.23.2012 4:04 PM PDT

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Posted by: POKEY CLYDE
Huge thread about the exact same feature being discussed by many, with MANY posts by Achronos

He agrees that this feature would be good, but he also has some worries that I have. The forums becoming an 'echo chamber' for users who abuse this feature.

Enjoy.
Just because people want to exhibit self destructive behavior like that, and considering it doesn't affect anyone else's experience apart from the abuser, why should that inhibit people who want to use it constructively?

[Edited on 02.23.2012 4:07 PM PST]

  • 02.23.2012 4:06 PM PDT

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Couldn't this "block user" feature lead to threads having 10 replies but with only a few actual readable posts. It really would chop down the size of a lot of threads. Like, if I have blocked 15 users and I look at a massive "*repeat post" thread like the Member Title post. Instead of having 1059 pages of posts it might only have 700. Ultimately taking away from the Bungie experience.

While "annoying" or "stupid" users can derail a thread or start an argument, they can post useful and meaningful content occasionally. Some might even become jerks contextually, posting Quality in the community forum and Qrap in the flood forum.

Overall, I think it would take a way from the experience of these forums. With "annoyance" being dictated completely by opinion it would reduce the forums to a core collection of 100 users that everyone can see. You gotta take the community as a whole and not a filtered "better" version that you'd prefer.


i wud bloc du modz cuz den tey cuoldtn bannd me.!!!.

  • 02.23.2012 4:35 PM PDT

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Posted by: defnop552
Couldn't this "block user" feature lead to threads having 10 replies but with only a few actual readable posts. It really would chop down the size of a lot of threads. Like, if I have blocked 15 users and I look at a massive "*repeat post" thread like the Member Title post. Instead of having 1059 pages of posts it might only have 700. Ultimately taking away from the Bungie experience.

While "annoying" or "stupid" users can derail a thread or start an argument, they can post useful and meaningful content occasionally. Some might even become jerks contextually, posting Quality in the community forum and Qrap in the flood forum.

Overall, I think it would take a way from the experience of these forums. With "annoyance" being dictated completely by opinion it would reduce the forums to a core collection of 100 users that everyone can see. You gotta take the community as a whole and not a filtered "better" version that you'd prefer.


i wud bloc du modz cuz den tey cuoldtn bannd me.!!!.
The blocking feature would only affect the people who block the user.

Therefore the reduced size of the threads would be nothing but beneficial to them. And I'm fairly certain the webteam would be able to implement the feature in such a way that would adjust the projected number of replies based on your ignore list.

  • 02.23.2012 4:43 PM PDT

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Posted by: defnop552
Couldn't this "block user" feature lead to threads having 10 replies but with only a few actual readable posts. It really would chop down the size of a lot of threads. Like, if I have blocked 15 users and I look at a massive "*repeat post" thread like the Member Title post. Instead of having 1059 pages of posts it might only have 700. Ultimately taking away from the Bungie experience.
No it wouldn't. Something you're all failing to realize is that this is a user feature. By no means does this effect Bungie.net or anyone's experience here -- this is personal. And don't assume just because one person is going to block a user, that the rest will follow. That's not how it should work.

  • 02.23.2012 4:45 PM PDT

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While this would be a nice feature to have, it could possibly effect the activity of the forums if people start blocking each other too much. Think about it, if someone blocks you, your thread won't even show up to them. Even though this has a small chance of happening, I thought I would just throw it out there.

[Edited on 02.23.2012 4:53 PM PST]

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