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why didn't you just keep your little -blam!- mouth shut? i dont know if you realize this but you at that point in time came up with the worst idea to ever be in not only a halo game but in all video games in general. in fact that may be the worst idea in the history of the human race. it does nothing and i mean nothing but annoy people. and you know what instead of putting in a horrible quit ban system as a complete cop out why didn't you have the decency to actually make the game worthy of not quitting. their are countless things wrong with this game in general that people mention all the time and NOTHING is done about it.yeah sure their was a TU but that wasn't perfect in fact a lot of people actually hate the game MORE now which defeats the purpose of the TU. im not trying to completely bash on reach becuase it is my most played game, but its just that i feel like their could have been more effort on everyone involved with this game. i mean especially with the ranked system i have experienced way to many completly uneven matches in arena. in fact social slayer to me has more balanced teams than arena which is complete horse -blam!-. arena needs to be stricter in its ranking. everything should count towards your rank. everything from kills to assists to medals to wins and losses to deaths to games finished and to objectives caught and to objectives stopped. i mean yeah it may take longer to find a match, but i would rather wait forever for one good match then play a million easy to find uneven matches. i dont care if im winning or losing those even matches or not its despite the point in ranked to me. also for -blam!- sake seasons are also a horrible idea. the point of seasons was to prevent deranking. well guess what thats what it does any way it deranks everyone on purpose. this makes it so i'm mid season as a bronze playing people who were goddamn onyxs last season but didnt rank this season so that one game completely -blam!-s my rank. and another thing if your going to have a broken system why cant it work in my favor as well? i mean becuase i always seem to have a fairly balanced team every time i play against another team that isnt. if you know what im sayin.

as you can tell yes i did just have a horrible game of arena where i rage quit and then got immediately quit banned. this is why i think the game should have just been improved in development and not been so rushed then things like quit bans wouldnt even need to exist and i and everyone else who has ever been through this wouldn't have to wright threads like this over and over and over and over and over again.

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Quit ban is a great idea and should be harsher. You kids need to stop quitting and ruining my games.

  • 02.23.2012 3:34 PM PDT

Posted by: Killer VVhale
Quit ban is a great idea and should be harsher. You kids need to stop quitting and ruining my games.

  • 02.23.2012 3:35 PM PDT
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Posted by: boomdeyadah
Posted by: Killer VVhale
Quit ban is a great idea and should be harsher. You kids need to stop quitting and ruining my games.

  • 02.23.2012 3:37 PM PDT
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Posted by: Killer VVhale
Quit ban is a great idea and should be harsher. You kids need to stop quitting and ruining my games.

no its just a cop out the game should be good enough were the thought of quiting never crosses my mind.

  • 02.23.2012 3:37 PM PDT

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Posted by: boomdeyadah
Posted by: Killer VVhale
Quit ban is a great idea and should be harsher. You kids need to stop quitting and ruining my games.


I disagree. A ranking system did its job enough to discourage quitting. You quit, you lose, your rank probably goes down. It gave that incentive to stay and try to win.

Especially for H2, since ranks were a lot harder to obtain. While Halo 3 added the exp ranks, you quit you also lose an exp and have to win another game to get it back. That gave some incentive to not quit out either, because you wanted your next exp rank.

Reach MM as a whole is just broken an bad w/o ranks and party restrictions.

  • 02.23.2012 3:45 PM PDT

YOU FOOL! THE GOD OF HELLFIRE HAS NO NEED FOR COUPONS!

tl;dr

  • 02.23.2012 3:49 PM PDT

quit ban is pretty dumb for people who search by themselves. i wouldnt want to 1v6 people in invasion (spawn kill) and when people betray for snipe and u betray back...pretty retarded. but for the ppl that leave before the match even begins...that should be punished.

  • 02.23.2012 3:49 PM PDT
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Posted by: Achronos
It isn't our shiznit anymore.

I'm more wondering why the surrender option guy didn't speak up.

  • 02.23.2012 3:54 PM PDT
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The 343 forums suck. They're full of retarded kids and mods who got butthurt in the B.net forums for being told that they're bad.

A quit ban only really works when the matches are even-ish to begin with. The current matchmaking system sucks five million dongs; quitting is rampant because there aren't evenly-matched games.

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Posted by: B Rye
A quit ban only really works when the matches are even-ish to begin with. The current matchmaking system sucks five million dongs; quitting is rampant because there aren't evenly-matched games.


Bingo.

But an alternative punishment that would have made more sense than a 10 min ban.... taking Cr from quitters. Since this game revolves around rank/Cr.

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Posted by: Myth iZ

Posted by: B Rye
A quit ban only really works when the matches are even-ish to begin with. The current matchmaking system sucks five million dongs; quitting is rampant because there aren't evenly-matched games.


Bingo.

But an alternative punishment that would have made more sense than a 10 min ban.... taking Cr from quitters. Since this game revolves around rank/Cr.
yeah i would much rather have my credits taken away becuase they are meaningless, but still games that arent quitable is still the ideal

  • 02.23.2012 4:07 PM PDT
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The 343 forums suck. They're full of retarded kids and mods who got butthurt in the B.net forums for being told that they're bad.


Posted by: Myth iZ

Posted by: B Rye
A quit ban only really works when the matches are even-ish to begin with. The current matchmaking system sucks five million dongs; quitting is rampant because there aren't evenly-matched games.


Bingo.

But an alternative punishment that would have made more sense than a 10 min ban.... taking Cr from quitters. Since this game revolves around rank/Cr.


Yeah, that works better. Take away the reward playing games when you quit, like in Halo 3, and quitters are reluctant to quit.

But then you'll get more games where it's 1v4 and it turns into a hide-and-seek game which is BORING AS FUDGE.

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Posted by: boomdeyadah
Posted by: Killer VVhale
Quit ban is a great idea and should be harsher. You kids need to stop quitting and ruining my games.


I disagree. A ranking system did its job enough to discourage quitting. You quit, you lose, your rank probably goes down. It gave that incentive to stay and try to win.

Especially for H2, since ranks were a lot harder to obtain. While Halo 3 added the exp ranks, you quit you also lose an exp and have to win another game to get it back. That gave some incentive to not quit out either, because you wanted your next exp rank.

Reach MM as a whole is just broken an bad w/o ranks and party restrictions.
That was incentive for a lot of people TO quit. Ever hear of De-ranking?



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Posted by: analbumcover
That was incentive for a lot of people TO quit. Ever hear of De-ranking?



That was because of how H3s ranking was, its flaws, compiled with the fact people hate being told they're worse than what they think they are. Don't blame ranking systems in general on it.

Its quite obvious with Reach how much a ranking system is needed. No ones happy with the Reach MM system as a whole.

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Posted by: analbumcover

Posted by: Apocalypse

Posted by: boomdeyadah
Posted by: Killer VVhale
Quit ban is a great idea and should be harsher. You kids need to stop quitting and ruining my games.


I disagree. A ranking system did its job enough to discourage quitting. You quit, you lose, your rank probably goes down. It gave that incentive to stay and try to win.

Especially for H2, since ranks were a lot harder to obtain. While Halo 3 added the exp ranks, you quit you also lose an exp and have to win another game to get it back. That gave some incentive to not quit out either, because you wanted your next exp rank.

Reach MM as a whole is just broken an bad w/o ranks and party restrictions.
That was incentive for a lot of people TO quit. Ever hear of De-ranking?

thats why you make it so you can only derank from quiting only so far. so like if you want to derank from a 50 by quiting the lowest you could go could be maybe 45. after that it just keeps you at 45 until you play.

  • 02.23.2012 4:13 PM PDT

tl;dr.

Quit ban is a great idea and I hope it stays in future games. Most everyone gets a match once in a while where the teams are stacked. Suck it up and continue to play. It's not like you get quit-banned for doing it occasionally. Reach is broken in a few areas, but not here.

  • 02.23.2012 4:20 PM PDT
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Posted by: RecoveryOne R01
tl;dr.

Quit ban is a great idea and I hope it stays in future games. Most everyone gets a match once in a while where the teams are stacked. Suck it up and continue to play. It's not like you get quit-banned for doing it occasionally. Reach is broken in a few areas, but not here.
yeah once in a while i dont mind but i shouldnt want to quit all the time thats why the quit system in general is broken. the quit ban isnt the worse problem its the game in general. if you dont want people to quit dont ban them for it just make a better game in the first place

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Posted by: Apocalypse

Posted by: analbumcover
That was incentive for a lot of people TO quit. Ever hear of De-ranking?



That was because of how H3s ranking was, its flaws, compiled with the fact people hate being told they're worse than what they think they are. Don't blame ranking systems in general on it.

Its quite obvious with Reach how much a ranking system is needed. No ones happy with the Reach MM system as a whole.

Sure I could care less about rank (in any game) but I see that the majority of the community wants it so I think it should be in the next game. If rank is to return then deranking and rank boosting need to be made impossible.

-There should not be a negative credit or exp bonus for players that quit out of games - this will lead to deranking and will be viewed as a reward by some.

-If a player is AFK for 5 min they should be returned to the lobby. They should be awarded nothing and the stats gained in the game they AFKed in should account for nothing in terms of true skill.

-If a player is using a modded controller to stay in a game to avoid the AFK boot they should get a warning message after a few games telling them that if they ever do it again they will get banned and reset.

-If a player quits out of a game the stats he got in that game should not go towards or against his rank or credits. This will cut down on boosters.

[Edited on 02.23.2012 4:29 PM PST]

  • 02.23.2012 4:27 PM PDT

Posted by: Yamadog27
Opinions are like butholes. Everyone's got one, nobody wants to hear about it.

The only reason why I hate the quit ban is the broken betrayal/booting system.

  • 02.23.2012 4:31 PM PDT

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Why don't you stop quitting so much and stop ruining peoples's games?

  • 02.23.2012 5:09 PM PDT
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Posted by: B Rye

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Posted by: B Rye
A quit ban only really works when the matches are even-ish to begin with. The current matchmaking system sucks five million dongs; quitting is rampant because there aren't evenly-matched games.


Bingo.

But an alternative punishment that would have made more sense than a 10 min ban.... taking Cr from quitters. Since this game revolves around rank/Cr.


Yeah, that works better. Take away the reward playing games when you quit, like in Halo 3, and quitters are reluctant to quit.

But then you'll get more games where it's 1v4 and it turns into a hide-and-seek game which is BORING AS FUDGE.


Agreed it's boring as -blam!-. People that stay in this mess are ridiculous.

So take the quit process a step further. In a game with a 10 minute time limit, if other players on the enemy team start leaving and it's down to 1v4 say ... 2 minutes into the match, the game should end there and the last man left on the other team should be awarded 20% (2 of 10 mins) of the game complete credits, plus any commendations he earned up to that point. The game can automatically forfeit for them.

In Squad Slayer (5v5) or Invasion it should happen at 2v5 or 2v6. In BTB it could happen at 3v8.

Hopefully they're thinking about this -blam!- with Halo4 Multiplayer, but I doubt the Cr system will be back.

  • 02.23.2012 5:10 PM PDT
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Posted by: Blaze of Storm
Why don't you stop quitting so much and stop ruining peoples's games?


Should I really have to take on 5 Nova and higher dudes with 2.0 K/D with Sergeant Angelbaby11 and Warrant Officer Ha1oGirl4 as my comrades?

The game was RUINED before it even started for me.

[Edited on 02.23.2012 5:14 PM PST]

  • 02.23.2012 5:13 PM PDT
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Here are two perfect solutions.

1. Don't rage quit. You quitting is just a cop out of you not realizing you truly suck. If you don't quit you can learn form your mistakes.

2. Be social and play with friends.

  • 02.23.2012 5:14 PM PDT