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Subject: Should 343i remove Auto Aim from Halo entirely?


Posted by: tsujen

Posted by: KaRiK
Ever tried shooting a teammate? Next time you're in a game try strafing back n forth with a teammate and see how many shots you land to the head and how great that would be.

I just tried it and it took 5 shots to kill my team mate. What is your point? Am I supposed to do less damage to team mates or something? I don't get it.

Edit: ohh you mean you can't hit team mates because you rely on auto aim. My bad. I don't have that problem myself as I know how to aim.

[Edited on 02.24.2012 10:32 AM PST]

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Posted by: I RaveN I
I would to direct you to Halo 2 Vista. Plug in your controller, then run this. Record your gameplay, and post here.

You would get destroyed. Imagine no-scoping every shot without bullet magnetism.

Oh wait, you were being sarcastic. I hope.


It's a lot easier to aim with a mouse. Honestly, you try so hard to make Halo look easy because of your inability to admit that you suck at it.

  • 02.24.2012 10:32 AM PDT
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lulz yeah kid we all believe you now..You can sit there and shoot an afk guest not moving 5 times and kill him pretty easy, but when you've got 2 players trying to kill each other 99.9% of the time it will take you more than 5 shots.

Here actually i'll invite you to a 1v1 and we'll both be on the same team and see how easy it is to kill each other, i'd love to see your 5 shot dmr lol

[Edited on 02.24.2012 10:41 AM PST]

  • 02.24.2012 10:38 AM PDT

Halo 2 > Halo 3 > Halo 3 ODST > Halo Reach > Halo CE

Based on campaigns.

No. Why does everything have to be about skill, has the fun factor been forgotten or something?

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Posted by: Mark V guy
No. Why does everything have to be about skill, has the fun factor been forgotten or something?


Fun is subjective. I have fun when the winner is the better player.

  • 02.24.2012 10:45 AM PDT

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So basically... Waypoint is pro-vanilla?

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Posted by: Mark V guy
No. Why does everything have to be about skill, has the fun factor been forgotten or something?

A more skillful game is also more fun for the casuals (ex. Halo CE, Halo 2, Halo 3). Reach is less skillful, as well as less fun for casuals (as shown by the declining population).

  • 02.24.2012 10:46 AM PDT


Posted by: tsujen
lulz yeah kid we all believe you now..You can sit there and shoot an afk guest not moving 5 times and kill him pretty easy, but when you've got 2 players trying to kill each other 99.9% of the time it will take you more than 5 shots.

Here actually i'll invite you to a 1v1 and we'll both be on the same team and see how easy it is to kill each other, i'd love to see your 5 shot dmr lol

He wasn't AFK, he was actually trying to kill me. I 5 shot him while he was even using the evade armor ability. He tried to kill me when he respawned but I did the exact same thing again, 5 shot him.

I'm sick of people who can't aim posting on this forum. Nothing that you says matters if you can't aim. Why are you even playing a FPS if you rely on auto aim to play?

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Posted by: SouthPoIe
Right now we need some degree of aim assist simply because the controllers aren't fully capable of being extremely precise.

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Inheritor #156 :p

Soo you gonna come into that 1v1 than since it's sooo easy? :D

Oh wait no you're not because you're trollin and think you're amazing at the game lulz

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Posted by: Mark V guy
No. Why does everything have to be about skill, has the fun factor been forgotten or something?

Facing players of the same level with crisp competitive gameplay, is my fun.

Reach ruined that for me.

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Posted by: Apocalypse
OP you're honestly retarded if you truly think an online, console, shooter can run without any form of auto aim or bullet magnetism.

Sorry to burst your biased bubble but it needs some to a degree.


What I would support would be custom game options to increase or decrease at will. With CEA they made a skull that had the ability to turn auto aim on and off. Why not expand upon that and try to make them adjustable by the players?

Make Halo completely competitive out of the box, MLG plays the same thing casuals would play out of the box. Nothing different, aside from MLG turning down auto aim.

Casuals would see it as "Oh hey they're playing the same thing I am but with less auto aim, its harder to aim they must be good".

Done.

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Posted by: Apocalypse


Buts that's still more or less what MLG is doing right now. You're right when you say that the game should be ready to play right out of the box.

Just have a set level of aim assist. Not too much, but also not too little.

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Posted by: RC Clone

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It would be close to impossible to hit anything unless there were some adjustments.

That brings skill into the game. Only the best quality controllers combined with the bet quality thumbs can win.


And the one with the lowest ping from host to help of course.

Allso dosent many PC games offer 0 auto aim option?

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Halo Reach aim assist needed to be toned down a bit when zero bloom was introduced. Reach has the most helpful aim assist of any halo title to date.


That does not mean that it needs to be taken out of the game.

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Posted by: analbumcover
Halo Reach aim assist needed to be toned down a bit when zero bloom was introduced. Reach has the most helpful aim assist of any halo title to date.


That does not mean that it needs to be taken out of the game.

Nope. Halo 2 has a higher auto aim and magnetism.

  • 02.24.2012 11:30 AM PDT

Ruin Halo? It would do the opposite. No longer could casuals enter a game and expect to get a few kills. Instead they would be mercilessly slaughtered by those of us who could aim.

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No it what makes halo halo

  • 02.24.2012 12:04 PM PDT

Halo 2 > Halo 3 > Halo 3 ODST > Halo Reach > Halo CE

Based on campaigns.


Posted by: KaRiK
Ruin Halo? It would do the opposite. No longer could casuals enter a game and expect to get a few kills. Instead they would be mercilessly slaughtered by those of us who could aim.


Just because you can aim doesnt mean you and a few other 'pros' should get the game to yourself. I bought this game and I have the right to play it and have fun, and if auto aim means fun, then so be it

[Edited on 02.24.2012 12:11 PM PST]

  • 02.24.2012 12:10 PM PDT

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Posted by: Maximus Decimus
Agreed. All the changes are good and add variety. Do we really want another Halo 3? Just running around with one gun and no armor abilities? It's good that 343 wants to try something new. Do we really want the same thing for three more games?

Obvious troll is obvious. Just let the thread die, guys.

  • 02.24.2012 12:31 PM PDT

This guy has no proof he is even good at the game, yet he talks like he is a pro. Get out troll.

  • 02.24.2012 12:35 PM PDT

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Posted by: Maximus Decimus
Agreed. All the changes are good and add variety. Do we really want another Halo 3? Just running around with one gun and no armor abilities? It's good that 343 wants to try something new. Do we really want the same thing for three more games?


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Posted by: tsujen

Posted by: KaRiK
Ever tried shooting a teammate? Next time you're in a game try strafing back n forth with a teammate and see how many shots you land to the head and how great that would be.

I just tried it and it took 5 shots to kill my team mate. What is your point? Am I supposed to do less damage to team mates or something? I don't get it.

Edit: ohh you mean you can't hit team mates because you rely on auto aim. My bad. I don't have that problem myself as I know how to aim.
OMFG THIS IS THE WORST TROLL EVER. QUIT RESPONDING TO THIS THREAD GUYS. WTF

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