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In a time long past, the armies of the dark came again to the lands of men. Their leaders became known as the fallen lords, and their terrible sorcery was without equal in the west.
In 30 years they reduced the civilized nations into carrion and ash. Until the free city of Madrigal alone defined them. An army gathered there, and a desperate battle was joined against the fallen
Heros were born in the fire and bloodshed of the wars which followed and their names and deeds will never be forgotten

there are many people that make accounts, troll, etc. What do you think wold be good to add to accounts to encourage good behavior and wanting to maintain an account.

I di not think title bars are enough but at the same time I do not know any alternate features that would be good.

  • 02.24.2012 7:48 AM PDT

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  • 02.24.2012 7:49 AM PDT

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I really see no problem with the status quo. If people see no intrinsic value in their account, it is an error on behalf of the user, not the system.

Negligent use of accounts does not arise from lack of value, it arises from the desire to use them for negligent purposes.

  • 02.24.2012 7:50 AM PDT

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Posted by: True Underdog
Only after we ban Bricypoo.

Every new member must go through a wet noodle initiation.

  • 02.24.2012 7:51 AM PDT

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Posted by: mubox47
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Adding 'value' to accounts wouldn't stop trolling in any way.

  • 02.24.2012 7:51 AM PDT

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People see value differently. People with Halo 2 stats should feel a sense of value in my opinion because you can no longer collect Halo 2 stats.

Soon Halo 3 and Reach stats will be frozen and new people won't be able to collect them anymore. We will all have unique avatars and they won't.

Even with all this, some people wouldn't care. Some people create accounts just to troll. They are not gonna want Halo stats. It all depends on what is valuable to you.

  • 02.24.2012 8:07 AM PDT

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Posted by: Bricypoo
Every new member must go through a wet noodle initiation.


Thats only if you get to become a *looks around* Nin............

Also I think its fine the way it is, but maybe something could work who knows.

[Edited on 02.24.2012 9:24 AM PST]

  • 02.24.2012 8:10 AM PDT

Posted by: A Bit Of Zero
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Posted by: King Dutchy
I broke one of the cords for my X11s because I couldn't get past the final American course in Doritos Crash Course.

Add xp and leveling, -blam!-es love leveling.

What?
Your account is evolving...


...Congratulations! your account evolved into...exactly the same account. But look at the shiney graphic we made for leveling up! dont you want to see it again?!

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I'm all for adding value to accounts. Show a little love for those of us who have stuck around Bnet for a long time and have mostly good behavior.

However, doing that without alienating newish users or adding some perceived veil of elitism is a tricky thing. I see it work wonders in other gaming communities but Bnet could be a challenge. The size and attitude of this community is unique to say the least. These things are exacerbated during a dark period like now when the average forum goer has little to discuss so they all just end up debating and complaining about the community or site itself.

But rolling out something new and cool when the new site and new project are revealed? That could be good.

  • 02.24.2012 8:12 AM PDT

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Posted by: JobeTheConqueror
I'm all for adding value to accounts. Show a little love for those of us who have stuck around Bnet for a long time and have mostly good behavior.

However, doing that without alienating newish users or adding some perceived veil of elitism is a tricky thing. I see it work wonders in other gaming communities but Bnet could be a challenge. The size and attitude of this community is unique to say the least. These things are exacerbated during a dark period like now when the average forum goer has little to discuss so they all just end up debating and complaining about the community or site itself.

But rolling out something new and cool when the new site and new project are revealed? That could be good.


I do agree with this.

  • 02.24.2012 8:14 AM PDT

Maybe the option, after a certain amount of time, you could submit an Avatar for personal use, and with an okay, you would be allowed to use it.

  • 02.24.2012 8:16 AM PDT
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Add post streaks that unlock medals for your profile. Whenever you get a medal, Jeff Steitzer's voice will say the name of it.

Posting Spree- Post 5 times without getting warned or banned
Posting Frenzy- Post 10 times without getting warned or banned
Posting Riot- Post 15 times without getting warned or banned
Spampage- Post 20 times without getting warned or banned

We can also have multipost medals.

Double Post- Post 2 times within 10 seconds
Triple Post- Post 3 times within 20 seconds
Overpost- Post 4 times within 30 seconds
Posttacular- Post 5 times within 40 seconds

The spam filter would have to be removed for the multi post medals, but I think it would be worth it. We can also have special medals for quoting Bungie employees. And whenever you get banned, you lose the last 10 medals you earned.

[Edited on 02.24.2012 8:33 AM PST]

  • 02.24.2012 8:31 AM PDT

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Posted by: Eraclio
Add post streaks that unlock medals for your profile. Whenever you get a medal, Jeff Steitzer's voice will say the name of it.

Posting Spree- Post 5 times without getting warned or banned
Posting Frenzy- Post 10 times without getting warned or banned
Posting Riot- Post 15 times without getting warned or banned
Spampage- Post 20 times without getting warned or banned

We can also have multipost medals.

Double Post- Post 2 times within 10 seconds
Triple Post- Post 3 times within 20 seconds
Overpost- Post 4 times within 30 seconds
Posttacular- Post 5 times within 40 seconds

The spam filter would have to be removed for the multi post medals, but I think it would be worth it. We can also have special medals for quoting Bungie employees. And whenever you get banned, you lose the last 10 medals you earned.
I really hope you're joking, because all of those seem like terrible ideas. I'm not trying to be rude if you're serious, but i don't see how promoting people to quote Bungie employees as fast as possible will reduce spam and trolling.

  • 02.24.2012 8:35 AM PDT
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Let us sign up for Bungie ad manager and put ads on our profile to monetize our participation in the community.














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  • 02.24.2012 8:39 AM PDT

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The Webteam shouldn't have to add more value to accounts if the community would grow up first.

  • 02.24.2012 9:13 AM PDT

I don't think trolls care what value their accounts hold.

  • 02.24.2012 9:21 AM PDT

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Posted by: insaneAssass1n9
Maybe the option, after a certain amount of time, you could submit an Avatar for personal use, and with an okay, you would be allowed to use it.


I like that idea! We have plenty of Ninjas to make that process viable. If the qualifications for submitting an avatar were stringent, of course. You'd have to meet certain account requirements such as age, ban history, frequency of posts, etc.

And when you meet those reqs, you can submit this request from somewhere on your profile, where it shows up in the Ninjas action queue and one of them can approve or deny it as soon as possible.

  • 02.24.2012 9:21 AM PDT

Posted by: FALSE R3ALITYx
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Only after we ban Bricypoo.

Yes, but it is time for a change.


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Posted by: Bricypoo
Every new member must go through a wet noodle initiation.


Thats only if you get to become a *looks around* Nin............

Also I think its fine the way it is, but maybe something could wotk who knows.

  • 02.24.2012 9:23 AM PDT

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I think that adding value to accounts would be a good thing. It would encourage community activity and keep well meaning members from straying. However, don't think that it will stop trolls. They don't care about hats or trophies, and unless this becomes a pay-site (bad idea), the trolls will do their thing.

  • 02.24.2012 9:39 AM PDT


Posted by: acnboy34
The Webteam shouldn't have to add more value to accounts if the community would grow up first.

We should all listen to this guy.

  • 02.24.2012 9:44 AM PDT

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  • 02.24.2012 9:50 AM PDT
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Posted by: prometheus25
I really see no problem with the status quo. If people see no intrinsic value in their account, it is an error on behalf of the user, not the system.

Negligent use of accounts does not arise from lack of value, it arises from the desire to use them for negligent purposes.
Although I usually agree with Prommy, I would disagree with this.

While it is true that a user's account has whatever intrinsic value it is assigned by the user, I think that this site's current issues with alt accounts, flaming, and spamming are not the result users not intrinsically valuing their accounts, but rather of the system adding zero extrinsic value to any account.

Currently, a user on a two-week old alternate account has all of the exact same privileges and rights as a user who has only used one account for the last 7 or 8 years. There are around 40 community accounts out of the millions in existence here that have moderator tools, but that's it. The system tells every single other user here that once they are past the two-week mark (and thus are able to start creating groups), their account will never gain any further value. If a user doesn't care about creating a private group, then his or her account has the same value as a one-DAY old account.

Add in the facts that: (1) a new account can be created in a matter of minutes, for free; (2) there is no limit to the number of alternate accounts a user may have; (3) the system's method of deterring usage of alternate accounts is pitiful; (4) the moderators completely lack any tools for detecting alternate accounts except experience and judgment, and this is well-known by our more prolific trolls; (5) the tying of personal information to your account is HIGHLY discouraged, and users who have made their real-life identities known in the past have often been targeted for account theft or dissemination of highly personal information (including me).

What this all adds up to is a website that is essentially completely anonymous and which places an extrinsic value of zero on any particular user's account.

It sounds insane to me to think that adding certain measures to this website to increase the value of a single account would not be effective.

Imagine, hypothetically, that the site were able to put into place a measure that utterly ensured a one-account-to-one-user ratio, and that users' rights and privileges grew over time if they posted within the forum rules, and that such rights and privileges could be taken away in the event that they didn't post within the forum rules. It seems unthinkable that forums like the Flood and the Halo: Reach Forum would suffer from the flamebaiting/flaming/spamming problems that they currently have.

I don't think that the Bungie Web Team is particularly against adding value to accounts; they are mostly concerned with the best way to do it that does not make it difficult or impossible for new users to join up and be able to immediately (or at least quickly) start participating.

I have seen a new trend on some websites that I really like: telephone number verification (I think others have suggested this before as well). A phone number is not terribly sensitive information and can be easily changed. Each account would have to be matched with a phone number, verified by a phone call or text message code that the user must then enter on the site before he or she can begin posting. The phone number would, obviously, be kept confidential and only visible to website administrators.

Most of us only have one or two phone numbers, and very few people over the age of 13 or so do not have their own phone number. If every account were required to be matched up with a phone number before it could start posting, this would go a long way towards ensuring a one- or possibly two-or-three-account per person website.

I'm still in favor of other privileges and rights for long-time members, but this post is quite long enough, and that, perhaps, is another post for another thread :-)

[Edited on 02.24.2012 10:04 AM PST]

  • 02.24.2012 10:02 AM PDT
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Posted by: chotato
smart, interesting, seems out of place.


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Whoever goes a year without making an alt gets a date with Foman's mom.

  • 02.24.2012 10:05 AM PDT

I like how Foman posts a really well-thought out message with a balanced argument. And then this follows:
Posted by: Ktan Dantaktee
Whoever goes a year without making an alt gets a date with Foman's mom.

This made my evening XD

  • 02.24.2012 10:06 AM PDT

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