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Subject: Is there anyone GOOD that likes Default more than TU?
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Posted by: ParagonRenegade

In some respects, default is better

In others, TU is better


Fact.

  • 02.26.2012 12:11 PM PDT

Welcome to the internet. Joy dies here.

Posted by: ParagonRenegade
The TU is somewhat good, but it has numerous problems that were not addressed/were exacerbated

^This

  • 02.26.2012 12:11 PM PDT

Posted by: CultMiester4000
I'm not really an Apple person (Bananas forever) but damn, that's kinda sad.


Posted by: Zomechin
Posted by: Metalignus
Does 85% belong to TU or Vanilla? I hate Vanilla, not a huge fan of ZB even though it beats the crappy Vanilla anyday.


I find 85% bloom the best.


Infact, -blam!- Vanilla, I can't think of myself playing non-bleedthrough Halo again.
85% is TU. And I agree.


Reach has horribly-large mutual-kill windows, which were almost entirely compensated for by no bleed-through mechanics. Now almost every other simultaneous melee is a mutual beatdown

  • 02.26.2012 12:12 PM PDT

"Don't go following causes. They'll just break your heart. When idealism meets reality, it's rarely reality that backs down."

Michael Liberty, UNN

Starcraft Universe


Posted by: ParagonRenegade

Posted by: Zomechin
Posted by: Metalignus
Does 85% belong to TU or Vanilla? I hate Vanilla, not a huge fan of ZB even though it beats the crappy Vanilla anyday.


I find 85% bloom the best.


Infact, -blam!- Vanilla, I can't think of myself playing non-bleedthrough Halo again.
85% is TU. And I agree.


Reach has horribly-large mutual-kill windows, which were almost entirely compensated for by no bleed-through mechanics. Now almost every other simultaneous melee is a mutual beatdown


Wasn't that one of the biggest complaints from halo 3?

  • 02.26.2012 12:13 PM PDT

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Posted by: ParagonRenegade

Posted by: Zomechin
Posted by: Metalignus
Does 85% belong to TU or Vanilla? I hate Vanilla, not a huge fan of ZB even though it beats the crappy Vanilla anyday.


I find 85% bloom the best.


Infact, -blam!- Vanilla, I can't think of myself playing non-bleedthrough Halo again.
85% is TU. And I agree.


Reach has horribly-large mutual-kill windows, which were almost entirely compensated for by no bleed-through mechanics. Now almost every other simultaneous melee is a mutual beatdown

Vanilla involved shooting to kill. TU is just shoot 3 times and melee.

  • 02.26.2012 12:14 PM PDT

Posted by: CultMiester4000
I'm not really an Apple person (Bananas forever) but damn, that's kinda sad.


Posted by: SPC COMMANDO
Wasn't that one of the biggest complaints from halo 3?


It's actually the official reason it was done

  • 02.26.2012 12:14 PM PDT

Hi.

Posted by: ParagonRenegade

Posted by: Zomechin
Posted by: Metalignus
Does 85% belong to TU or Vanilla? I hate Vanilla, not a huge fan of ZB even though it beats the crappy Vanilla anyday.


I find 85% bloom the best.


Infact, -blam!- Vanilla, I can't think of myself playing non-bleedthrough Halo again.
85% is TU. And I agree.


Reach has horribly-large mutual-kill windows, which were almost entirely compensated for by no bleed-through mechanics. Now almost every other simultaneous melee is a mutual beatdown
No, not really.

If you want to me to link my past 24 TU games in my fileshare for evidence, then okay.

  • 02.26.2012 12:16 PM PDT

Posted by: CultMiester4000
I'm not really an Apple person (Bananas forever) but damn, that's kinda sad.


Posted by: Zomechin
No, not really.

If you want to me to link my past 24 TU games in my fileshare for evidence, then okay.


This is in my experience, so I suspect it will be different for everyone.

But I think we can all agree there was a significant increase in mutuals

  • 02.26.2012 12:17 PM PDT


Posted by: WhackyGordon
Posted by: ParagonRenegade
The TU is somewhat good, but it has numerous problems that were not addressed/were exacerbated

^This

I agree with Whacky and Paragon, both settings have issues. But, in my opinion, I find the TU settings to be more enjoyable than the vanilla game. I don't think I'm good. I don't think vanilla players are "retarded." But, if it was up to me the TU would be applied to the entire game. Campaign, Firefight, SWAT ... all of it.

  • 02.26.2012 12:17 PM PDT

"Don't go following causes. They'll just break your heart. When idealism meets reality, it's rarely reality that backs down."

Michael Liberty, UNN

Starcraft Universe


Posted by: ParagonRenegade

Posted by: SPC COMMANDO
Wasn't that one of the biggest complaints from halo 3?


It's actually the official reason it was done


Watch, when Halo 4 comes out with no bloom, bleedthrough, and some new mechanic, everyone's gonna be crying for it to be like Reach. its happened with every game since Halo 2.

  • 02.26.2012 12:18 PM PDT

Posted by: CultMiester4000
I'm not really an Apple person (Bananas forever) but damn, that's kinda sad.


Posted by: albinogoat

Posted by: WhackyGordon
Posted by: ParagonRenegade
The TU is somewhat good, but it has numerous problems that were not addressed/were exacerbated

^This

I agree with Whacky and Paragon, both settings have issues. But, in my opinion, I find the TU settings to be more enjoyable than the vanilla game. I don't think I'm good. I don't think vanilla players are "retarded." But, if it was up to me the TU would be applied to the entire game. Campaign, Firefight, SWAT ... all of it.


I would as well if.......

DMR had RoF nerf

Mutual window of opportunity was lessened

Grenades were nerfed and given a longer fuse

Jump and movement buffs

:3

  • 02.26.2012 12:19 PM PDT

Hi.

Posted by: ParagonRenegade

Posted by: Zomechin
No, not really.

If you want to me to link my past 24 TU games in my fileshare for evidence, then okay.


This is in my experience, so I suspect it will be different for everyone.

But I think we can all agree there was a significant increase in mutuals
1 melee should not do the same damage as 3 shots and 1 melee. It increased mutuals (maybe increased - I don't know - I haven't noticed it at all) because it made the game more consistent and fair.

Mutuals > host-decided kills, anyways.

[Edited on 02.26.2012 12:19 PM PST]

  • 02.26.2012 12:19 PM PDT

Hi.

Posted by: ParagonRenegade
DMR had RoF nerf
Holy -blam!- the game is already slow paced.

  • 02.26.2012 12:20 PM PDT

Posted by: CultMiester4000
I'm not really an Apple person (Bananas forever) but damn, that's kinda sad.


Posted by: Zomechin
1 melee should not do the same damage as 3 shots and 1 melee. It increased mutuals (maybe increased - I don't know - I haven't noticed it at all) because it made the game more consistent and fair.


Eh, I rush a lot (and die, consequently( so it may affect me more than you.

Mutuals > host-decided kills, anyways.

wtf are you smoking this time? :D

SUPPORT 4SK MELEE

  • 02.26.2012 12:21 PM PDT

Posted by: CultMiester4000
I'm not really an Apple person (Bananas forever) but damn, that's kinda sad.


Posted by: Zomechin
Posted by: ParagonRenegade
DMR had RoF nerf
Holy -blam!- the game is already slow paced.


wtf

No it isn't, the DMR kills you in like 1.5 seconds now

  • 02.26.2012 12:21 PM PDT

Welcome to the internet. Joy dies here.

If they finished the TU and actually re-balanced everything to accommodate the changes, everybody would be happy. As it stands, the TU is closer to what it needs to be than Vanilla, but Vanilla is more balanced. The TU satisfies the higher skill level gameplay, but leaves some serious issues at the lower end.

Disagreement = ur bad

[Edited on 02.26.2012 12:25 PM PST]

  • 02.26.2012 12:22 PM PDT

Welcome to the internet. Joy dies here.

Posted by: Zomechin
Posted by: ParagonRenegade
DMR had RoF nerf
Holy -blam!- the game is already slow paced.

ZB DMR + (minor)RoF nerf + movement speed buff = Halo

  • 02.26.2012 12:24 PM PDT

Hi.

Posted by: WhackyGordon
Posted by: Zomechin
Posted by: ParagonRenegade
DMR had RoF nerf
Holy -blam!- the game is already slow paced.

ZB DMR + (minor)RoF nerf + movement speed buff = Halo
It takes 5 shots to kill. That's its kill-time nerf.

  • 02.26.2012 12:26 PM PDT


Posted by: ParagonRenegade
DMR had RoF nerf


From my limited experience, the only time the DMR's RoF has been issue is in ZB. Other than that, I'm fine with it. But I'm halfway decent with a DMR (compared to the people I normally get matched against, not saying I'm good).

  • 02.26.2012 12:27 PM PDT

Welcome to the internet. Joy dies here.


Posted by: Zomechin
Posted by: WhackyGordon
Posted by: Zomechin
Posted by: ParagonRenegade
DMR had RoF nerf
Holy -blam!- the game is already slow paced.

ZB DMR + (minor)RoF nerf + movement speed buff = Halo
It takes 5 shots to kill. That's its kill-time nerf.

Oh right - my bad
4sk ZB DMR + (minor)RoF nerf + movement speed buff = Halo

  • 02.26.2012 12:28 PM PDT

Posted by: CultMiester4000
I'm not really an Apple person (Bananas forever) but damn, that's kinda sad.


Posted by: albinogoat

Posted by: ParagonRenegade
DMR had RoF nerf


From my limited experience, the only time the DMR's RoF has been issue is in ZB. Other than that, I'm fine with it. But I'm halfway decent with a DMR (compared to the people I normally get matched against, not saying I'm good).


It's really mostly an issue with everything else being so horrible.

But the DMR is primarily a problem in ZB, where it makes me want to self-harm with rusty nail files

  • 02.26.2012 12:28 PM PDT

Ever wonder what's up there?

MLGTSTUZBNS = Halo

Wait...

  • 02.26.2012 12:30 PM PDT

Hi.

Posted by: ParagonRenegade

Posted by: albinogoat

Posted by: ParagonRenegade
DMR had RoF nerf


From my limited experience, the only time the DMR's RoF has been issue is in ZB. Other than that, I'm fine with it. But I'm halfway decent with a DMR (compared to the people I normally get matched against, not saying I'm good).


It's really mostly an issue with everything else being so horrible.

But the DMR is primarily a problem in ZB, where it makes me want to self-harm with rusty nail files
ZBNS is the best Reach can ever get.

  • 02.26.2012 12:31 PM PDT


Posted by: ParagonRenegade

Posted by: albinogoat

Posted by: ParagonRenegade
DMR had RoF nerf


From my limited experience, the only time the DMR's RoF has been issue is in ZB. Other than that, I'm fine with it. But I'm halfway decent with a DMR (compared to the people I normally get matched against, not saying I'm good).


It's really mostly an issue with everything else being so horrible.

But the DMR is primarily a problem in ZB, where it makes me want to self-harm with rusty nail files

I hated the ZB magnum more than I did the ZB DMR. I kind of expected a no-bloom DMR to be beastly. I wasn't prepared for the ZB magnum. That thing is an abomination.

  • 02.26.2012 12:31 PM PDT

Hi.

Posted by: albinogoat

Posted by: ParagonRenegade

Posted by: albinogoat

Posted by: ParagonRenegade
DMR had RoF nerf


From my limited experience, the only time the DMR's RoF has been issue is in ZB. Other than that, I'm fine with it. But I'm halfway decent with a DMR (compared to the people I normally get matched against, not saying I'm good).


It's really mostly an issue with everything else being so horrible.

But the DMR is primarily a problem in ZB, where it makes me want to self-harm with rusty nail files

I hated the ZB magnum more than I did the ZB DMR. I kind of expected a no-bloom DMR to be beastly. I wasn't prepared for the ZB magnum. That thing is an abomination.
They got rid of it though...

  • 02.26.2012 12:32 PM PDT