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Subject: Why every gametype should be DMR start

Because otherwise mindless crap like this happens in which every player has AR or melee as ToD. This isn't good gameplay, it's just a bunch of bad players running around holding RT and mashing melee when they think they might be within range.

AR starts are terrible and if you have ever willingly voted for them then so are you.

  • 02.26.2012 5:13 AM PDT

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You carn't change what the majority of the people want to play.

  • 02.26.2012 5:27 AM PDT


Posted by: Destiny 7
Nope.
Yep. AR starts prevent players from having much of an effect of the game unless they either find a DMR or stay in CQC areas, and it just encourages players to not think at all, instead opting to just run around as if they were incapable of any cognitive function, throwing grenades and holding the RT followed by a melee as if it's the only thing possible. Which in AR starts, it probably is. Even I got ToD melee somehow.

And it doesn't encourage weapon variety, either. There is no weapon that any good player will pick up in AR starts that they wouldn't pick up in DMR starts, with the exception of the needle rifle, but they do pretty much the same job. AR starts are stupid.

Why anyone would want AR starts over DMR starts is beyond me, and you clearly know nothing about how the game plays.

[Edited on 02.26.2012 5:31 AM PST]

  • 02.26.2012 5:28 AM PDT


Posted by: FriendlyStu16
You carn't change what the majority of the people want to play.
The only reason they want to play it is because they don't have to think about what they're doing and they can get easy kills from AR melee without any kind of forethought at all. Good players are punished because the skill gap in such an encounter is so low and kill times are so long that individual skill plays such a little part in determining the winner of the fight.

  • 02.26.2012 5:29 AM PDT

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Posted by: FriendlyStu16
You carn't change what the majority of the people want to play.

The only reason they want to play it is because they don't have to think about what they're doing and they can get easy kills from AR melee without any kind of forethought at all.

That is exactly what every noob/newb wants. You carn't change set mind of that person now can you.

Good players are punished because the skill gap in such an encounter is so low and kill times are so long that individual skill plays such a little part in determining the winner of the fight.

and for this part I say the most over used word on this forum "Adapt" or go in a full party and you will never have the problem again.

[Edited on 02.26.2012 5:34 AM PST]

  • 02.26.2012 5:32 AM PDT


Posted by: FriendlyStu16
I say the most over used word on this forum "Adapt"
This is just stupid and you just lost any respect you had previously earned. Adapting to something doesn't make it good. You could adapt to someone punching you in the face but it won't make it any more fun nor will it stop you from getting a broken nose. or go in a full party and you will never have the problem again. I do, most of the time. Again, this doesn't fix the problem. Going in with a full party so you have control over the vote is no reason for the option to even be there to begin with.

  • 02.26.2012 5:35 AM PDT


Posted by: Destiny 7

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Why anyone would want AR starts over DMR starts is beyond me, and you clearly know nothing about how the game plays.


Because it's fun to pick up a DMR and kills those who don't have a DMR.

Easy kills.
I agree but when both teams are competent and you end up with some players with DMRs on both and you spawn with just an AR/pistol to fight them with it becomes less fun. Sure, shooting fish in a barrel with the DMR is fun. But games aren't always fish in a barrel.

Also, a large proportion of your games are in SWAT, Grifball and Living Dead. As such I find it hard to take you seriousry.

[Edited on 02.26.2012 5:39 AM PST]

  • 02.26.2012 5:37 AM PDT


Posted by: Destiny 7

Posted by: X El BaZzA X

Also, a large proportion of your games are in Invasion, Living Dead and Firefight.


Fixed that for you.
That's just as bad, you know. Being a firefight AFK to try and get meaningless credits is nothing to be proud of.

  • 02.26.2012 5:57 AM PDT
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ZB slayer is DMR/AR start only, MLG is DMR start only and BTB is DMR/AR start only. But yes it should be DMR starts on all game types, at least they coulde make it DMR/AR.

  • 02.26.2012 6:00 AM PDT

Posted by: Destiny 7
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I don't. All those games are played. I love Firefight.
lolfirefight

  • 02.26.2012 6:40 AM PDT

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Problem?
Spawn killing is boring unless the enemy is human.

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That's retarded. Hell no.

  • 02.26.2012 6:51 AM PDT
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Posted by: X El BaZzA X
Because otherwise mindless crap like this happens in which every player has AR or melee as ToD. This isn't good gameplay, it's just a bunch of bad players running around holding RT and mashing melee when they think they might be within range.

AR starts are terrible and if you have ever willingly voted for them then so are you.


Always butthurt about something.

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  • 02.26.2012 7:19 AM PDT

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Posted by: X El BaZzA X
I agree but when both teams are competent and you end up with some players with DMRs on both and you spawn with just an AR/pistol to fight them with it becomes less fun. Sure, shooting fish in a barrel with the DMR is fun. But games aren't always fish in a barrel.

You could still fight off a player with a DMR easily with a well placed grenade and a good aim with the pistol. It is in no way unfair. Or you could team up on him and that'd do the job aswell.

[Edited on 02.26.2012 8:04 AM PST]

  • 02.26.2012 8:01 AM PDT
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Posted by: Destiny 7

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Why anyone would want AR starts over DMR starts is beyond me, and you clearly know nothing about how the game plays.


Because it's fun to pick up a DMR and kills those who don't have a DMR.

Easy kills.

  • 02.26.2012 8:07 AM PDT

The AR isn't bad for players who are new, even then sometimes players may perfer over the assault rifles than the DMR. It's just a matter of choice whether or not the player chooses the AR or DMR

Personally, I perfer the DMR over the assault rifle.

  • 02.26.2012 8:27 AM PDT
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Halo: Reach is the beginning of a new age for gaming.
It proves that developers can get away with punishing their players instead of fixing their game....and yet the fanboys will still sing praises to them.

-blam!- all of you fanboys!

And how is that any worse than just starting with a DMR and just spamming that all day?

You even said it yourself. With AR starts, you actually get 2 different forms of attack coming forward as ToD's

With DMR's only 1 ToD. The DMR.

At least AR starts make you mix it up a little bit.


But then again, are you telling me that grenades don't play a role in AR starts?

You're basically -blam!-ing because when you play AR starts, some people end up having to defend themselves with that AR before they were able to find a different weapon...

Whereas with DMR, there is no need to find a different weapon. Just run and hide in some far off corner away from combat and gank kills.

I mean seriously, compare the 2 scenarios, and you'll find out that what you -blam!- about is probably the dumbest -blam!- thing ever. Because it's all relative.
You start with DMR's, guess what the ToD becomes?
You start with AR's guess what the ToD becomes?

To me at least... The AR encourages you to replace it as soon as possible with something better. But that isn't always possible if you're having to defend yourself before you're able to replace it.

"I don't like AR starts because spray/melee combo becomes everyones ToD!"

Seriously...stfu.

[Edited on 02.26.2012 8:57 AM PST]

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