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Subject: Real Pro's opinion

Funny I just talked to some real pro's on twitch tv, and no I'm not talking about you BTB -blam!-es. The funny thing is all 3 said every no matter their skill level should have a say in the game they play. All they want is their play list and everyone else can have theirs.
To the forum try hards: MLG players get paid to play the game, you don't. Which makes their opinion matter and not yours. They say everyone has a right to speak about the game they play and love.

So shut the -blam!- up!!!!!!

  • 02.26.2012 4:29 PM PDT

I'm about as slightly above average as you can get.

So they get an opinion, but we don't, but we still get an opinion?

Lolwtf?

  • 02.26.2012 4:31 PM PDT

Welcome to the internet. Joy dies here.

Makes sense. Games for niche markets don't get sequels.
Halo 2 and 3 wouldn't have happened if casuals didn't buy CE.

[Edited on 02.26.2012 4:33 PM PST]

  • 02.26.2012 4:32 PM PDT
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Posted by: RC Clone
Nope. SouthPole isn't a person. He's the avatar of the force of tryhards everywhere. He stalks the web looking for retards to set straight. He can not be stopped by mere bans or thread locks for he shall rise anew.

Wow, all 3? That must be a big number for you.

  • 02.26.2012 4:34 PM PDT
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Posted by: RC Clone
Nope. SouthPole isn't a person. He's the avatar of the force of tryhards everywhere. He stalks the web looking for retards to set straight. He can not be stopped by mere bans or thread locks for he shall rise anew.


Posted by: WhackyGordon
Makes sense. Games for niche markets don't get sequels.
Halo 2 and 3 wouldn't have happened if casuals didn't buy CE.


It doesn't have to be casual for casuals to buy it.

  • 02.26.2012 4:34 PM PDT

Posted by: Darkside Eric
So basically... Waypoint is pro-vanilla?

Posted by: Sentox6
Waypoint isn't pro-anything so much as they're just anti-intelligence.

It doesn't mean that you can't have an opinion, it just means that there's a higher chance that your opinion is based on faulty logic or a misunderstanding of the game.

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Posted by: RC Clone
Nope. SouthPole isn't a person. He's the avatar of the force of tryhards everywhere. He stalks the web looking for retards to set straight. He can not be stopped by mere bans or thread locks for he shall rise anew.


Posted by: nicksta14
It doesn't mean that you can't have an opinion, it just means that there's a higher chance that your opinion is based on faulty logic or a misunderstanding of the game.


This.

Also, we're not affecting how living dead and Griffball are changed, why the -blam!- do you think you should have a say about how competitive playlists are changed?

  • 02.26.2012 4:38 PM PDT

Posted by: De1taDawg210
All they want is their play list and everyone else can have theirs.


The only playlist they care about is mlg. Game developers are going to listen to their opinion more than some random person in regards to that specific playlist. Now if they played other playlists as well, the developers would most likely not listen to their opinion as much since they also have to appeal to casual fans as well.

  • 02.26.2012 4:43 PM PDT


Posted by: SouthPoIe

Posted by: nicksta14
It doesn't mean that you can't have an opinion, it just means that there's a higher chance that your opinion is based on faulty logic or a misunderstanding of the game.


This.

Also, we're not affecting how living dead and Griffball are changed, why the -blam!- do you think you should have a say about how competitive playlists are changed?

Why do you care so much if they leave TS alone then? It's not competitive, neither is squad or BTB or any other play list besides MLG and arena.
Oh and I don't play grift ball or living dead my son plays living dead cause I gave him this account and made a new one.

  • 02.26.2012 4:51 PM PDT


Posted by: nicksta14
It doesn't mean that you can't have an opinion, it just means that there's a higher chance that your opinion is based on faulty logic or a misunderstanding of the game.

Once again I'm better then you are so if I have faulty logic, then your logic is as ass backwards as they come.

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Posted by: RC Clone
Nope. SouthPole isn't a person. He's the avatar of the force of tryhards everywhere. He stalks the web looking for retards to set straight. He can not be stopped by mere bans or thread locks for he shall rise anew.


Posted by: De1taDawg210

Posted by: SouthPoIe

Posted by: nicksta14
It doesn't mean that you can't have an opinion, it just means that there's a higher chance that your opinion is based on faulty logic or a misunderstanding of the game.


This.

Also, we're not affecting how living dead and Griffball are changed, why the -blam!- do you think you should have a say about how competitive playlists are changed?

Why do you care so much if they leave TS alone then? It's not competitive, neither is squad or BTB or any other play list besides MLG and arena.
Oh and I don't play grift ball or living dead my son plays living dead cause I gave him this account and made a new one.


It's obviously not competitive now thanks to the bk settings.

  • 02.26.2012 4:55 PM PDT

Posted by: Darkside Eric
So basically... Waypoint is pro-vanilla?

Posted by: Sentox6
Waypoint isn't pro-anything so much as they're just anti-intelligence.


Posted by: De1taDawg210
Why do you care so much if they leave TS alone then? It's not competitive, neither is squad or BTB or any other play list besides MLG and arena.
Oh and I don't play grift ball or living dead my son plays living dead cause I gave him this account and made a new one.

lol Arena isn't competitive anymore, squad slayer is more competitive at this point. And how "competitive" (you use this word ambiguously, so it's open for interpretation) a playlist is should be irrelevant. The TU settings require more skill than default Reach settings, plain and simple. The only place where the TU doesn't belong is grifball, where it has no effect on gameplay either way.

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Posted by: RC Clone
Nope. SouthPole isn't a person. He's the avatar of the force of tryhards everywhere. He stalks the web looking for retards to set straight. He can not be stopped by mere bans or thread locks for he shall rise anew.


Posted by: De1taDawg210

Posted by: nicksta14
It doesn't mean that you can't have an opinion, it just means that there's a higher chance that your opinion is based on faulty logic or a misunderstanding of the game.

Once again I'm better then you are so if I have faulty logic, then your logic is as ass backwards as they come.


That's not how it works.

You can be smart and bad, but if you were that, you would be agreeing with us.

You're just straight bad.

  • 02.26.2012 4:56 PM PDT

Posted by: Darkside Eric
So basically... Waypoint is pro-vanilla?

Posted by: Sentox6
Waypoint isn't pro-anything so much as they're just anti-intelligence.


Posted by: De1taDawg210
Once again I'm better then you are so if I have faulty logic, then your logic is as ass backwards as they come.

LOOOOOOL I'M DYING

By the way, you should consider getting rid of that child. People as stupid as you shouldn't be contaminating the gene pool of the human race.

  • 02.26.2012 4:57 PM PDT

Oh, this kid again..

  • 02.26.2012 4:57 PM PDT
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MLG's opinions go towards the MLG playlist, they don't care about the other playlists so we are the ones whos opinions matter for those.

To the forum try hards: MLG players get paid to play the game, you don't. Which makes their opinion matter and not yours. They say everyone has a right to speak about the game they play and love.

So they (the 3 "pros") say every one has a right to have an opinion about the game, but you say their opinion matters but not ours.. You don't make any sense.

[Edited on 02.26.2012 5:09 PM PST]

  • 02.26.2012 4:58 PM PDT

Welcome to the internet. Joy dies here.

Posted by: SouthPoIe
It doesn't have to be casual for casuals to buy it.

It helps if you want to keep them buying it. Either way, treating them like -blam!- isn't going to entice them to stay a part of the community. A franchise this old needs new players to keep it alive. Not old coots that can't stand change, or the young whipper-snappers inciting it.

  • 02.26.2012 5:02 PM PDT

Welcome to the internet. Joy dies here.

Posted by: SouthPoIe
...why the -blam!- do you think you should have a say about how competitive playlists are changed?

Oh are Arena and MLG coming to a vote too? I thought it was just social.

  • 02.26.2012 5:04 PM PDT


Posted by: WhackyGordon
Posted by: SouthPoIe
...why the -blam!- do you think you should have a say about how competitive playlists are changed?

Oh are Arena and MLG coming to a vote too? I thought it was just social.

What do you think the results of a "vote" like that would have been in any of the competitive playlists? Would there have been anyone in the MLG playlist that voted for vanilla settings? I doubt it. Thats why there wasn't a vote. 343 knew there was no need for one. The competitive crowd had made their choice a long time ago.

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Posted by: RC Clone
Nope. SouthPole isn't a person. He's the avatar of the force of tryhards everywhere. He stalks the web looking for retards to set straight. He can not be stopped by mere bans or thread locks for he shall rise anew.

Honestly, this whole situation is just a debacle. It's just like AR Starts VS BR Starts. It's not opinion. One is simply better for gameplay. You may like one over the other (why however will remain obvious), but that doesn't mean we should ever actually be using the bad settings.

That's just -blam!- stupid.

  • 02.26.2012 5:20 PM PDT

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Posted by: albinogoat

Posted by: WhackyGordon
Posted by: SouthPoIe
...why the -blam!- do you think you should have a say about how competitive playlists are changed?

Oh are Arena and MLG coming to a vote too? I thought it was just social.

What do you think the results of a "vote" like that would have been in any of the competitive playlists? Would there have been anyone in the MLG playlist that voted for vanilla settings? I doubt it. Thats why there wasn't a vote. 343 knew there was no need for one. The competitive crowd had made their choice a long time ago.

That was sarcasm. My point is he's referring to TS as a competitive playlist. How many competitive 4v4 slayer only lists does Reach need? And when do I get one for Anniversary? Sick to death of objectives.

  • 02.26.2012 5:24 PM PDT

Social is our business because bungie/343 only gave competitive players 1 ranked playlist and that one has garbage maps and settings so no one plays it anymore.

They don't listen to us when we try to get them to fix our 1 playlist so we try and make a home for ourselves in other playlists.

Right now the closest thing to a competitive playlist we have besides lolarena and unranked MLG is the TU playlist and even that is getting boring. 80% steaktacular rate in TU playlist. If 343 gave us some decent ranked playlists then there wouldn't be a problem with TU vs non TU settings being in which playlists.

I would love to stay out of the social playlists and only play ranked but 343 makes us not want to play ranked with the settings they give us.

  • 02.26.2012 6:01 PM PDT

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Posted by: PopulistSilver6
So they get an opinion, but we don't, but we still get an opinion?

Lolwtf?

  • 02.26.2012 6:03 PM PDT
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Posted by: RC Clone
Nope. SouthPole isn't a person. He's the avatar of the force of tryhards everywhere. He stalks the web looking for retards to set straight. He can not be stopped by mere bans or thread locks for he shall rise anew.


Posted by: FlintyFlame67
aren't you bik3lok lol!


...wtf

  • 02.26.2012 6:06 PM PDT

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