Halo: Reach Forum
This topic has moved here: Subject: 343 Ruined Halo Reach.
  • Subject: 343 Ruined Halo Reach.
Subject: 343 Ruined Halo Reach.
  •  | 
  • Intrepid Heroic Member


Posted by: xODSTxDutch
Jesus Christ, when did halo become so competitive? I mean yea, I have my competitive side but it seems like no one likes to have fun anymore. Don't troll me saying I'm trash, because im hmmm..... not bad (Dear god if i said good, trolllolololls would come) 1.20 K/D. To play halo, apparently you have to get a 2.00 k/d according to this thread, which wasn't what halo was originally about.


2 things.

1. Halo has been competitive since Halo CE when it was put on the MLG pro circuit back in 2004

2. Fun is subjective. MLG is fun to me while random features that offer no skill whatsoever are fun to you.

  • 02.27.2012 8:51 PM PDT


Posted by: RC Clone

Posted by: xODSTxDutch
Jesus Christ, when did halo become so competitive? I mean yea, I have my competitive side but it seems like no one likes to have fun anymore. Don't troll me saying I'm trash, because im hmmm..... not bad (Dear god if i said good, trolllolololls would come) 1.20 K/D. To play halo, apparently you have to get a 2.00 k/d according to this thread, which wasn't what halo was originally about.

Competition is just another type of fun.

A type of fun that Halo: Reach is extremely bad for.
Yea, but it really annoying when I want to have fun playing Vanilla Halo Reach and I am called out for not being top of the leaderboards, therefore my idea of fun is wrong. That's like saying Muslims have the biggest population, therefore every other religion is wrong.

  • 02.27.2012 8:54 PM PDT
  • gamertag: [none]
  • user homepage:

Posted by: Horse Repairman
RC RuNz the internet. Like the superintendent.

Posted by: SouthPoIe
Clone is an internet God.

Posted by: DerpRoids
RC Clone is the anti-thesis of a lurker.

Not related at all.


Adding randomness just makes the game more frustrating and only players that aren't paying attention disregard it.

  • 02.27.2012 8:56 PM PDT

Please...stop getting butthurt when I noscope you from the passenger seat of the vehicle I'm riding in :D


Posted by: krisman1
The new maps suck, and so do the ones they've edited and so do the gametypes.
Armor lock is under-powered, the Magnum is OP, and they've almost ruined Alpha Zombies.
Sword Base is a shell of it's former self, and ALL of the maps they've edited, to be frank, are the -blam!-iest things I've ever played on.
They are either not able, or not willing to make new FREE maps, are killing the maps that exist, and are slowly killing Halo. Their biggest mistake? Listening to you guys.
You don't know anything about game developing, but they chose to listen to you.
Big Mistake.
The game was FINE, until 343. Alpha zombies was the only thing good added to the game, ever.
And everyone online sucks anyways, because everyone that used to post here started playing halo. I play the game for Alpha Zombies and Custom Games.

It's very, very sad that this has happened. Expectations are low for Halo 4.
Anything else you want to bring on the table?
inb410yearoldwantingto1v1me
inb4whatsyourK/D
inb4reachtards
inb4callingmeafloodtard


OP didn't inb4beingbadathalo

You're bad at Halo. Go play CoD. Living dead is part retarded. TU saved what little was left of Reach at the time. There's been about a 40% increase of players daily since the TU went more widespread in MatchMaking. This means it was catered to the majority of players, because the people that were left were the true fans. Mostly.

You're crying and complaining about freaking Living Dead, which isn't even affected by the TU in the first place. Other than the fact that you can't sword block with TU, you deserve to die if you get hit by a damn plasma sword. You said you play the game for Alpha Zombies and Customs. That guarantees you have no idea how balancing works in a game.

Go outside and learn something you toolbag.

  • 02.27.2012 8:58 PM PDT

~Previous Main Gamertag: Grav1ty Hamster (50 HS)~

This thread is now about Bacon Strips.

Discuss.

[Edited on 02.27.2012 8:59 PM PST]

  • 02.27.2012 8:59 PM PDT


Posted by: Blackdog Rker
OP is bad.

coming from a commander grade 3.....

  • 02.27.2012 9:00 PM PDT


Posted by: RyanW

Posted by: xODSTxDutch
Jesus Christ, when did halo become so competitive? I mean yea, I have my competitive side but it seems like no one likes to have fun anymore. Don't troll me saying I'm trash, because im hmmm..... not bad (Dear god if i said good, trolllolololls would come) 1.20 K/D. To play halo, apparently you have to get a 2.00 k/d according to this thread, which wasn't what halo was originally about.


2 things.

1. Halo has been competitive since Halo CE when it was put on the MLG pro circuit back in 2004

2. Fun is subjective. MLG is fun to me while random features that offer no skill whatsoever are fun to you.
See you just proved my point, dissing my view because it doesn't agree with youre view. Please tell me why MLG is the only skillful Playlist? You can be skillful at regular halo. Its like saying I'm good at sport 1 and your good at sport 2, you believe your sport is better because it maybe a little harder, and because yours is harder. Mine is just pointless chaos.

  • 02.27.2012 9:00 PM PDT

I don't understand the pacifist nature of gamers today! I play to win! The reason I play the game to begin with is to win!

  • 02.27.2012 9:01 PM PDT
  • gamertag: [none]
  • user homepage:

Posted by: Horse Repairman
RC RuNz the internet. Like the superintendent.

Posted by: SouthPoIe
Clone is an internet God.

Posted by: DerpRoids
RC Clone is the anti-thesis of a lurker.


Posted by: OutcastDuke371
I don't understand the pacifist nature of gamers today! I play to win! The reason I play the game to begin with is to win!

People who want to win are cheating.

  • 02.27.2012 9:03 PM PDT


Posted by: RC Clone
Not related at all.


Adding randomness just makes the game more frustrating and only players that aren't paying attention disregard it.
Everytime I've posted on this thread, I got called out for skill level, mine was 1.20 his was 2. Something and that basically meant I was wrong somehow.

  • 02.27.2012 9:03 PM PDT

Mediocre Backpacker
56% W\L
2.86 k\d
3.18 DMR
7.29 God Magnum
7.79 Sniper
5.34 Needle Rifle


Posted by: The DMR

Posted by: Blackdog Rker
OP is bad.

coming from a commander grade 3.....

I'd be offended if I had DSL during that time. Nice stat-checking two games that play completely differently.

  • 02.27.2012 9:05 PM PDT
  • gamertag: [none]
  • user homepage:

Posted by: Horse Repairman
RC RuNz the internet. Like the superintendent.

Posted by: SouthPoIe
Clone is an internet God.

Posted by: DerpRoids
RC Clone is the anti-thesis of a lurker.


Posted by: xODSTxDutch
To me, when you can't survive a sticky in armor lock that's kind of sad. But that's not all 343 did, they OP'ed the magnum, DMR and beat down. I love the magnum and DMR but when you can kill someone in 3 shots from each of those it gets kindof annoying and you no longer feel like a super-soldier anymore. As for beat down, I should die when I have half sheilds and full health. Original Halo Reach = Halo - 343's Halo Reach = CoD.

I've played halo since Halo: CE so I'm not some 8yr old who doesn't know what the hell he's talking about.

P.S. My top weapon is DMR I'm pretty sure so I'm good with it, I just don't like it.

Just noticed that you said default Reach is the same as Halo 3


That is why we are calling you bad.

A statement with this level of ignorance shows us that you have no idea what you are talking about.

  • 02.27.2012 9:06 PM PDT
  •  | 
  • Intrepid Heroic Member


Posted by: xODSTxDutch

Posted by: RyanW

Posted by: xODSTxDutch
Jesus Christ, when did halo become so competitive? I mean yea, I have my competitive side but it seems like no one likes to have fun anymore. Don't troll me saying I'm trash, because im hmmm..... not bad (Dear god if i said good, trolllolololls would come) 1.20 K/D. To play halo, apparently you have to get a 2.00 k/d according to this thread, which wasn't what halo was originally about.




2 things.

1. Halo has been competitive since Halo CE when it was put on the MLG pro circuit back in 2004

2. Fun is subjective. MLG is fun to me while random features that offer no skill whatsoever are fun to you.
See you just proved my point, dissing my view because it doesn't agree with youre view. Please tell me why MLG is the only skillful Playlist? You can be skillful at regular halo. Its like saying I'm good at sport 1 and your good at sport 2, you believe your sport is better because it maybe a little harder, and because yours is harder. Mine is just pointless chaos.


You are talking about 2 different sports in your last post. I'm skillful at basketball while you are skillful in baseball is what you are saying.

I am referring to like this:
Both versions of Reach are like basketball. My version(MLG) is like the NBA. Rules and fouls to keep the game fair. Your version(vanilla) is like street ball. No fouls called and do whatever the hell you want.

Both are basketball but one only is fair and balanced for all.

  • 02.27.2012 9:06 PM PDT

I just want one playlist titled: Vanilla with the sub options such as Team Objective, BTB, etc.
and another Titled: Title Update with sub options

Then id be happy.

  • 02.27.2012 9:07 PM PDT
  • gamertag: [none]
  • user homepage:

*wonders how New Clan Recruitment For Shadow Pack thread gets 55 replies*

*reads "Hi I'm Ashley. . ." *

[Question Answered]

*proceeds to read on, shakes head, and gently laughs*


Posted by: krisman1
Their biggest mistake? Listening to you guys.
Q-F-T
Reach is the result of what people in the Halo 3 forum requested on a daily basis. We got what we "wanted". It seemed 343i only listened to loudest of its fans though. I still think Halo: Reach was fine from the beginning, and I still enjoy it in its current state.

  • 02.27.2012 9:13 PM PDT


Posted by: tsujen
Aww another lolivingdead kid who is mad he can't camp in every game and has to use his brain now to kill people..



I do living dead and support this post, not so many spots for campers now. :D

  • 02.27.2012 9:13 PM PDT


Posted by: RyanW

Posted by: xODSTxDutch

Posted by: RyanW

Posted by: xODSTxDutch
Jesus Christ, when did halo become so competitive? I mean yea, I have my competitive side but it seems like no one likes to have fun anymore. Don't troll me saying I'm trash, because im hmmm..... not bad (Dear god if i said good, trolllolololls would come) 1.20 K/D. To play halo, apparently you have to get a 2.00 k/d according to this thread, which wasn't what halo was originally about.




2 things.

1. Halo has been competitive since Halo CE when it was put on the MLG pro circuit back in 2004

2. Fun is subjective. MLG is fun to me while random features that offer no skill whatsoever are fun to you.
See you just proved my point, dissing my view because it doesn't agree with youre view. Please tell me why MLG is the only skillful Playlist? You can be skillful at regular halo. Its like saying I'm good at sport 1 and your good at sport 2, you believe your sport is better because it maybe a little harder, and because yours is harder. Mine is just pointless chaos.


You are talking about 2 different sports in your last post. I'm skillful at basketball while you are skillful in baseball is what you are saying.

I am referring to like this:
Both versions of Reach are like basketball. My version(MLG) is like the NBA. Rules and fouls to keep the game fair. Your version(vanilla) is like street ball. No fouls called and do whatever the hell you want.
Both are basketball but one only is fair and balanced for all.
See, you keep on belittling my idea, its more like You're in Football which usually is a bit harder, And I'm in lacrosse which may not be as popular our as hard but its whar I like.

  • 02.27.2012 9:13 PM PDT


Posted by: RC Clone

Posted by: xODSTxDutch
To me, when you can't survive a sticky in armor lock that's kind of sad. But that's not all 343 did, they OP'ed the magnum, DMR and beat down. I love the magnum and DMR but when you can kill someone in 3 shots from each of those it gets kindof annoying and you no longer feel like a super-soldier anymore. As for beat down, I should die when I have half sheilds and full health. Original Halo Reach = Halo - 343's Halo Reach = CoD.

I've played halo since Halo: CE so I'm not some 8yr old who doesn't know what the hell he's talking about.

P.S. My top weapon is DMR I'm pretty sure so I'm good with it, I just don't like it.

Just noticed that you said default Reach is the same as Halo 3


That is why we are calling you bad.

A statement with this level of ignorance shows us that you have no idea what you are talking about.
First if I was bad I wouldn't be +5000 secondly the point I was trying to get across was 343s halo reach was my idea of too realistic for halo. Bungies reach imo was what I believe halo should be

  • 02.27.2012 9:17 PM PDT
  •  | 
  • Intrepid Heroic Member

@Dutch

How am I belittling it?

Here's another analogy.

Halo is a newsapaper. TU is the local/world news that everyone cares about while Vanilla is the entertainment that you read but don't give a damn.

Its a newspaper section, but people care about one more than the other

  • 02.27.2012 9:18 PM PDT


Posted by: RC Clone

Posted by: OutcastDuke371
I don't understand the pacifist nature of gamers today! I play to win! The reason I play the game to begin with is to win!

People who want to win are cheating.


Yes so seriously true! The problem that I have with reach is it's like the handicapped version of Halo 3! If you need a crutch to make you better Reach has it!

  • 02.27.2012 9:19 PM PDT


Posted by: RyanW
@Dutch

How am I belittling it?

Here's another analogy.

Halo is a newsapaper. TU is the local/world news that everyone cares about while Vanilla is the entertainment that you read but don't give a damn.

Its a newspaper section, but people care about one more than the other
Do you not know what the term "belittling" means? People still care about Regular reach, that's why MLG isn't the most popular playlist. And you call me ignorant.

  • 02.27.2012 9:21 PM PDT
  •  | 
  • Intrepid Heroic Member


Posted by: xODSTxDutch

Posted by: RyanW
@Dutch

How am I belittling it?

Here's another analogy.

Halo is a newsapaper. TU is the local/world news that everyone cares about while Vanilla is the entertainment that you read but don't give a damn.

Its a newspaper section, but people care about one more than the other
Do you not know what the term "belittling" means? People still care about Regular reach, that's why MLG isn't the most popular playlist. And you call me ignorant.


If vanilla reach wasn't important it would have been taken out the game. Its still there to keep you idiots at bay until Halo 4 but that still doesn't make TU/MLG more important.

Look at the beginning of Reach. We had about 700,000 at release. About a year later, struggling to break 100,000 and just barely doing so. Halo 3 never had that problem and CoD 4 always had more people.

TU brought some people back, not that you care.....oh wait looks like someone was belittling.

  • 02.27.2012 9:27 PM PDT


Posted by: xODSTxDutch

Posted by: RyanW
@Dutch

How am I belittling it?

Here's another analogy.

Halo is a newsapaper. TU is the local/world news that everyone cares about while Vanilla is the entertainment that you read but don't give a damn.

Its a newspaper section, but people care about one more than the other
Do you not know what the term "belittling" means? People still care about Regular reach, that's why MLG isn't the most popular playlist. And you call me ignorant.


Go f.uck yourself

  • 02.27.2012 9:40 PM PDT


Posted by: RyanW

Posted by: xODSTxDutch

Posted by: RyanW
@Dutch

How am I belittling it?

Here's another analogy.

Halo is a newsapaper. TU is the local/world news that everyone cares about while Vanilla is the entertainment that you read but don't give a damn.

Its a newspaper section, but people care about one more than the other
Do you not know what the term "belittling" means? People still care about Regular reach, that's why MLG isn't the most popular playlist. And you call me ignorant.


If vanilla reach wasn't important it would have been taken out the game. Its still there to keep you idiots at bay until Halo 4 but that still doesn't make TU/MLG more important.

Look at the beginning of Reach. We had about 700,000 at release. About a year later, struggling to break 100,000 and just barely doing so. Halo 3 never had that problem and CoD 4 always had more people.

TU brought some people back, not that you care.....oh wait looks like someone was belittling.
TU didn't bring anyone back, everyone I meet online 6/8 like vanilla over TU. Please show me some statistics saying your correct. Also, I'm trying to be nice about things, you believe the only way to solve something is with name calling over the internet. That's the difference between you and me.

  • 02.27.2012 9:41 PM PDT
  •  | 
  • Intrepid Heroic Member

@Dutch

Judging by your stats you probably have no one in your FL that is competitive but that is a different story.

I am not going to look through random statistics just to prove something my 12 year old brother would have noticed.


Pre TU had an average of 90,000 people and barely breaking 100,000 on weekends and holidays.

Post TU, not Post Anniversary, has an average of about 110,000 and breaking 120-125,000 on weekends ans holidays.

Why? Because TU is Halo. If you still dont accept that, than don't bother posting anymore because you cant accept the fact that Bungie screwed up on something as precious as Halo.

[Edited on 02.27.2012 9:49 PM PST]

  • 02.27.2012 9:49 PM PDT