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Subject: Gametype Idea: Load-outs cost points

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Edit again: Posted a far more developed version of the idea over at waypoint. Crossing my fingers I don't get banned.

What would you think of an Action Sack gametype where loadouts could be assigned negative (or positive) point values? I was thinking about Counter-strike and the weapon buying system.

Something like:
AR; 0
DMR; -1
Magnum (3sk); -2
Shotgun; -2
Sniper; -3


Edit:
I've been refining the idea. Limited lives and rounds - so retards can't go -37 while you're on a killing spree. I was thinking about something like 3 lives per round for 5 rounds. That's 12 points worth per 4 man team per round, and a total of 60 possible points for the game. With time limits on the rounds, it wouldn't necessarily be a race to the winning score as much as a race to annihilate the other team three times or get your score as high as possible before the round ends. With a good spawn system it would be pretty sweet. I'm planning on trying to forge some crazy minigame map that does all of this with flags and stuff like Haloball. Should be interesting.


Opinions?

Edit: and map weapons wouldn't spawn - you'd be restricted to the guns you spawn with or ones other players drop.

[Edited on 02.28.2012 11:25 AM PST]

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  • 02.27.2012 11:26 PM PDT
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I don't get it?. Does 20 points = 20 points to win and every time you respawn you have to get more points?

  • 02.27.2012 11:27 PM PDT

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Posted by: DMR
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Sad because you don't cost more points?

[Edited on 02.27.2012 11:28 PM PST]

  • 02.27.2012 11:27 PM PDT

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Posted by: ankerd123
I don't get it?. Does 20 points = 20 points to win and every time you respawn you have to get more points?

Say it's a 4v4 match. A team needs to hit 50 to win. Spawning with a DMR puts your score negative. You need to earn a kill to pay for the DMR. You need to earn more points via kills than you spend via buying weapons to win.

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Posted by: WhackyGordon
Posted by: DMR
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Sad because you don't cost more points?
I feel like a cheap slut :(

  • 02.27.2012 11:31 PM PDT

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I thought the idea was creative, but it wouldn't make any sense. For instance, if you bought Rockets/AR for 5 points you'd have to get more than 5 kills for it to be worth it, and rockets only come with 4...

  • 02.27.2012 11:32 PM PDT

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Posted by: DMR
I feel like a cheap slut :(

You should after what you've done. Now the BR - that was a classy lady. Why can't you be more like her?

  • 02.27.2012 11:33 PM PDT

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Posted by: The CH1MP
I thought the idea was creative, but it wouldn't make any sense. For instance, if you bought Rockets/AR for 5 points you'd have to get more than 5 kills for it to be worth it, and rockets only come with 4...

It might need to have slightly adjusted ammo amounts, but to be fair, it's not hard to get more than one kill with a rocket.
Maybe a shotgun would be more appropriate in that spot. Shotgun/DMR.

[Edited on 02.27.2012 11:35 PM PST]

  • 02.27.2012 11:34 PM PDT

Seems like something easy too grief/stat pad in.

[Edited on 02.27.2012 11:39 PM PST]

  • 02.27.2012 11:38 PM PDT

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Posted by: boomdeyadah
Seems like something easy too grief/stat pad in.

Hmm. Very true. So it would be popular! lol

  • 02.27.2012 11:40 PM PDT

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Posted by: WhackyGordon (I edited the OP)
or maybe:
AR; 0
DMR; -1
Magnum (3sk); -2
Shotgun; -2
Sniper; -3
And say maybe make it an FFA or a multi-team game to try to reduce griefing. Score limit of 25 and a shorter time limit would help too.


...and map weapons wouldn't spawn - you'd be restricted to the guns you spawn with or ones other players drop.


So what about that? FFA or 2v2v2v2. If you buy something expensive, you're the one that has to pay for it. Single weapon spawns, so you have to kill somebody and take their gun to have a secondary, essentially. And it would take a concerted effort and a lot of work to grief, and that's better than a lot of MM gametypes.

[Edited on 02.28.2012 12:14 AM PST]

  • 02.28.2012 12:14 AM PDT

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Oh wait - never mind that. I got it. Limited lives/round. Bam. It's -blam!- counter-strike. Well, except it's slayer, not assault.

I guess you could do assault too, and make the bomb worth like 10-15 points, and defuse worth like 4-5. Kills worth 1. Then have a score limit/round of like 20 and have the bomb respawn.

  • 02.28.2012 12:45 AM PDT

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Posted more developed version over at waypoint. Updated OP with link. (like anybody cares. I've spent too much time on forgehub lately.)

[Edited on 02.28.2012 1:06 AM PST]

  • 02.28.2012 1:06 AM PDT

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Posted by: WhackyGordon
Edit: and map weapons wouldn't spawn - you'd be restricted to the guns you spawn with or ones other players drop.

No. Weapons on the map have always been a part of halo. We don't want to turn this game into a second CoD

  • 02.28.2012 2:14 AM PDT

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Posted by: SubtleSpartan
Posted by: WhackyGordon
Edit: and map weapons wouldn't spawn - you'd be restricted to the guns you spawn with or ones other players drop.

No. Weapons on the map have always been a part of halo. We don't want to turn this game into a second CoD

Not in SWAT/Team Snipers/LD/Grifball etc. I'm not proposing replacing other gametypes. Just adding a new one. Probably to action sack.

  • 02.28.2012 10:28 AM PDT

Forget it man, and get with the countdown. Shake this square world and blast off for Kicksville.

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Something that has bitten many a developer's well-laid plans in the behind is failure to appreciate that everything will devolve to the lowest common denominator online.

I'm sure Bungie thought their loadouts added fun and diversity when they were playing it into the office. Place that system in the hands of the pants-on-head retarded general population, and every game will turn into one guy camo-sniping in the back corner of the map and everyone else jetpacking straight up into the air to crap nades out. Over, and over, and over again.

When you jokingly say that everyone will "pick rockets and go mutual"... that's exactly what will happen. Every. Single. Match.

[Edited on 02.28.2012 10:56 AM PST]

  • 02.28.2012 10:56 AM PDT

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I've been refining the idea. Limited lives and rounds - so retards can't go -37 while you're on a killing spree. I was thinking about something like 3 lives per round for 5 rounds. That's 12 points worth per team per round, and a total of 60 possible points for the game. With time limits on the rounds, it wouldn't necessarily be a race to the winning score as much as a race to annihilate the other team three times or get your score as high as possible before the round ends. With a good spawn system it would be pretty sweet. I'm planning on trying to forge some crazy minigame map that does all of this with flags and stuff like Haloball. Should be interesting.

[Edited on 02.28.2012 11:26 AM PST]

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Noobs would spawn with rockets and keep on bringing your score down committing suicide trying to get 1 kill. :\ lol

Sounds like a good idea in the head but i'm sure if it ever got implemented their would be so many problems.

[Edited on 02.28.2012 11:06 AM PST]

  • 02.28.2012 11:06 AM PDT

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No. Drop dead OP.

Already did that. Now I'm a zombie. Also my thumbs fell of - so bite me. I'm doing the best I can with toes and an insatiable desire for human flesh.

  • 02.28.2012 11:06 AM PDT

I would crash the system by how many points i get like lawl come on

  • 02.28.2012 11:11 AM PDT
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The idea is good but you need to work on the scoring since matches might take a while.

  • 02.28.2012 11:12 AM PDT

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There - I edited it. Rounds and limited lives.

  • 02.28.2012 11:14 AM PDT

Load-outs are bad.


[Edited on 02.28.2012 1:02 PM PST]

  • 02.28.2012 12:56 PM PDT