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Subject: Thank goodness our Halo PC is cheat proof!
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http://www.bungie.net/News/TopStory.aspx?link=waaahmbulance
(someone post a link please, haven't brothered to learn to link yet, thanks in advance)

Thank goodness our Halo PC is cheatproof or else our game coulda been like this. The letters the hackers and cheaters give them is ridiculous, espically the first one, ya he said hes 13 and he acts like that, lol I'm 13 and I don't act like that.

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  • 05.22.2006 5:57 PM PDT
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You know that reminds me... why is Halo PC cheat proof while xbox live is -blam!- full of them ?

  • 05.22.2006 6:36 PM PDT
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Well basicly all the patches helpped to fix exploits, cheats, etc. etc. instead of the netcode and etc. etc. This along with most of the cheaters and exploiters moving on to other games and Halo 2 is probably the reason as to why its cheatproof, lol.

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right

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  • 05.22.2006 6:51 PM PDT

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Halo is cheat-proof, no there is less cheating, because the netcode is all server side so most cheat only work if you install them on the server.

  • 05.22.2006 7:27 PM PDT
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it is?

  • 05.22.2006 9:05 PM PDT
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"Damn Stoler's, Going around and Stoleing stuff"

omfgrofl!

Anyways, while we're on the topic of cheaters, is there a such thing as a 1 hit kill cheat? because I came accross a player using one a while back. His name was Knight, and he shot me ONCE with a pistol and killed me with OS. When I asked if he was cheatin he promptly left. Which is evidence in itself.

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  • 05.23.2006 9:16 AM PDT
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I've seen some convincing aimbot videos in the last couple of days, actually - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LoPjQ4TB3I&search=halo%20 aimbot

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MaUPYUegfyI&search=halo%20 aimbot

Fortunately from what I could tell, the aimbot's only work out when the host is using them, and so has no lag. As can be seen, it's a snap-to aimbot, very obvious.

I found this after a couple of people were accusing each other on the bungie EU servers, and they told me about these videos... also something about using wire (wireframe?) and some other stuff.

Thank goodness for the infamous Halo Lag, eh?

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I think wireframe removes the textures from the maps and only leaves the wireframe underneath. That way people can see where you are. I don't know if it allows you to shoot through walls.

  • 05.23.2006 10:34 AM PDT

Waaahmbulance heres the link u wanted :)

  • 05.23.2006 10:42 AM PDT

Posted by: Nessy

The bungie.net community is the halo PC community that is renowned for being unbelieveably sucky.

Posted by: Reaver225
I've seen some convincing aimbot videos in the last couple of days, actually - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LoPjQ4TB3I&search=halo%2 0aimbot

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MaUPYUegfyI&search=halo%2 0aimbot

Fortunately from what I could tell, the aimbot's only work out when the host is using them, and so has no lag. As can be seen, it's a snap-to aimbot, very obvious.

I found this after a couple of people were accusing each other on the bungie EU servers, and they told me about these videos... also something about using wire (wireframe?) and some other stuff.

Thank goodness for the infamous Halo Lag, eh?


There is no such thing as aimbots. Those videos prove absolutely nothing.

I've never seen a single cheater on Halo PC and I've been playing for a few years now.

Newbs like to spread the cheating rumors around because it's easier to accuse an excellent player of cheating than admit that they suck.

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There is no such thing as aimbots. Those videos prove absolutely nothing.

I've never seen a single cheater on Halo PC and I've been playing for a few years now.

Newbs like to spread the cheating rumors around because it's easier to accuse an excellent player of cheating than admit that they suck.

No and yes, Frnksnbns.

Although I agree that many noobs can't admit that there are better players than themselves, there are actually aimbots for Halo PC.

Yes, it is somewhat difficult to tell if someone is aimbotting or not, but the point is that there are aimbotters. Don't get me wrong though, nine out of the ten times people are accused of cheating, they aren't. There are aim bots, but most of the accusations people make about them are false, and they are just retarded sore losers.

How I know this? After making a comment myself stating that the aimbot did not exist, someone sent me an e-mail saying that there is actually an aimbot. I tested the aim bot out myself (one game, don't worry, I deleted the files afterwards) and it actually does work. However, I could get more kills if I didn't use it.

But Halo PC is still very difficult to cheat in, because of the netcode. Even though there are aim bots people need to stop being egotistical retards that can't accept the fact that there are people who are better at games than them, complaining that the mentioned person who is kicking their butts is cheating. Even if one is right and the person mentioned is cheating, that doesn't mean he's invincible.

I don't need aimbots because I can get more kills without them.

  • 05.23.2006 12:30 PM PDT
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Posted by: Frnksnbns
There is no such thing as aimbots. Those videos prove absolutely nothing.

I've never seen a single cheater on Halo PC and I've been playing for a few years now.

Newbs like to spread the cheating rumors around because it's easier to accuse an excellent player of cheating than admit that they suck.



Hold up, are you saying that I'm a: a newb and b: spreading rumors? Because although I may be spreading rumors, I'm definitely not a person who goes around shouting 'AIMBOT HAXXX' - I've got enough skill to beat most casual players (as I'm sure quite a few here can agree with). I looked up these videos for further information to back up one guy's story, and the videos are actually pretty incriminating (especially the second).

If you look at the second, the guy using the better aimbot suddenly swings his sniper 180 degrees round to face through a wall, and ended up pointing directly at the other player, who must have just repsawned. If that isn't proof of aimbotting, I don't know what is.

However, as the first video showed, (the guy got mullered, frankly) was that the netcode lag in halo throws it off so badly that that one is next to uselsess without being server.

And both people who were on the public servers accusing each other were both very good players as well - one was in a well known clan (but I won't put names up here).

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  • 05.23.2006 12:48 PM PDT
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You can cheat in halo, but most dont work because its so laggy. The one aim bot that does work has you manualy typing in your average ping on the server. Wire frame uses a dev command to use the wireframe rasterizer I believe.

  • 05.23.2006 1:20 PM PDT
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Wireframe is used to show the edges of faces, that includes map based and model based faces, and allows you to see everything that is rendered at once, allowing you to see trough walls to see whats rendered behind it.

  • 05.23.2006 11:36 PM PDT
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pity halo isn't hack proof though

  • 05.24.2006 4:18 AM PDT
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Posted by: Solokiller
Wireframe is used to show the edges of faces, that includes map based and model based faces, and allows you to see everything that is rendered at once, allowing you to see trough walls to see whats rendered behind it.


Which is exactly what the wireframe rasterizer command does.

  • 05.24.2006 4:52 AM PDT
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Hello reaver225.

That would be me you saw.

I go under various names, but you will know who I am when I say I was accusing C (no need to put all the tags and crap in, you will know who that is).

Im almost certain hes using wireframe, for a few reasons.

First off, he can shoot headshots through frg blasts, flame throwers, and nade blasts.

Possible explanation, hes got a crap graphics card or being lame and have it all turned off.

But he always knows where Im hiding, even if its in a stupid place. The capper being when I accused him of it he ran right out in front of me, letting himself be killed, saying he didnt expect me to go that way.

Now I freely admit hes a much better shot than me, can rifle headshot me and usually beat me with a pistol. Its not him being better than me Im annoyed at, its him knowing where people are going to be all the time.

His argument is that hes in a high ranking clan, but of course that would mean hes not cheating.

Oh, and reaver, your a mean -blam!- of a shot, bested me more than once.

I also get accused of using an aimbot at least once everytime I play. Does make me chuckle.

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  • 05.24.2006 6:19 AM PDT
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Hehehe... There goes my no-names clause...

Anyway, it's possible that C could be cheating, but I prefer to think that he's played the game WAYY too long and is just very good at predicting. OR PSYCHIC! Of course, I'm not ruling out he ISN'T cheating, but I'd need to see it for myself to believe it - I've got quite a few easy sniper shots through people flaming/rodding/nade clouds because they're been running in straight lines. The spotting you in weird hiding places is more convincing, but I'd want to try catching it myself - I've smacked C upside the head from behind enough times to be doubtful...

Now that I know that there are such wireframe methods out there, I'll look out to see if I can catch anyone using them! (Also, thanks for the praise, I'm trying to boost my skills just that bit better to beat you with next time ^^)

  • 05.24.2006 8:51 AM PDT
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Indeed, but remember a few things...

Im a decent player, and dodge even tho I know people are unlikely to see me through a cloud of smoke/frg blast.

Although he may have wireframe, his vision isnt 360 degrees, so yes it is possible to sneak up to him.

And remember, he was acting upon me saying he was using wireframe, so hes bound to tone it down a bit.

Ive been playing halo online since it came out, and thats a long time. Im not saying that makes me a god, but I do know what Im looking at and dont shout at everyone that beats me.

Ah well, we all have to deal with cheaters, lamers and the like.

I particuarly liked it where he said I was crap, and left. Although neither of us had scored a flag, I had more kills. Should really get his facts right before trying to knock me down!

  • 05.24.2006 8:59 AM PDT
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Ya, Kim, I was about to tell you that there is an AIMbot because of what your sig said.

Not very impressive videos (especially if they're AIMbot videos). First one kinda sucked (no wait, it sucked hard) and the second one was a shields game (although all the shots were headshots).

I am aware that there are different versions of AIMbot programs for Halo PC, so the one shown isn't the only one out there. Not sure if the AIMbot shown is the kind where when someone uses it their weapon disappears (when Shift is held down). So no, Halo PC is not cheat proof.

Nope, I'm not one of those "noobs" who blame good players on AIMbot, but I do admit that the AIMbot ruins Halo PC (in a minor sort of way).

HOWEVER! There is a good side to AIMbot. It teaches you how to aim at the head and lead properly, provided you have the right AIMbot program and turn it off when you practice.

  • 05.24.2006 9:51 AM PDT
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I'll bear it in mind Minjita - admittedly most of the times I backstabbed im was on Ice Fields at the sniper teles... not that hard...

I'll need to see something conclusive for myself to be sure, but I'll bear it in mind, especially since it's unlikely you'd suddenly start randomly accusing people :D

Also, joe98200, Aimbot does not help you get better at all. It's a crutch, and a stupid one - it might make you seem better, but people using it are still crap. The only reason it worked effectively on the video was because one guy was host - lag would break most aimbots TBH.

  • 05.24.2006 1:32 PM PDT

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