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Subject: Bungie is no longer managing the Halo Universe

Does anyone even read these?

Bungie is no longer managing the Halo Universe. While our Halo-related forums and stats remain available, be advised that "official" answers and support about the Halo Universe (past, present, or future) are not.
Wouldn't it be better to include a link to the Halo Waypoint forums in here somewhere? Something you could just click on to take a user there to complain about whatever.

Is it 343i or Halo Waypoint we go to when we have an issue with online play in Halo Reach? I don't even know myself. Which makes for a good example.

[Edited on 02.29.2012 3:28 AM PST]

  • 02.29.2012 3:25 AM PDT

Yes, there're too many numbers in my name.

Sure it would be nice to have some link to the 343i site.

And I believe you would head to the 343i site to ask questions regarding Reach.

  • 02.29.2012 3:37 AM PDT
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Bungie are no longer managing the Halo universe, but why would they willingly direct the community they have nurtured over the course of a decade elsewhere? Those interested in the continuation of Halo are more than capable of doing their own research, Bungie don't need to provide free advertisement for 343i.

  • 02.29.2012 4:05 AM PDT


Posted by: BadBall3r47
343i or Halo Waypoint
They are one and the same.

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Posted by: Tom T
Bungie are no longer managing the Halo universe, but why would they willingly direct the community they have nurtured over the course of a decade elsewhere? Those interested in the continuation of Halo are more than capable of doing their own research, Bungie don't need to provide free advertisement for 343i.
Agreed.

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Posted by: Tom T
Bungie are no longer managing the Halo universe, but why would they willingly direct the community they have nurtured over the course of a decade elsewhere? Those interested in the continuation of Halo are more than capable of doing their own research, Bungie don't need to provide free advertisement for 343i.

^^^THIS

  • 02.29.2012 4:18 AM PDT

Does anyone even read these?

Posted by: Tom T
Bungie are no longer managing the Halo universe, but why would they willingly direct the community they have nurtured over the course of a decade elsewhere? Those interested in the continuation of Halo are more than capable of doing their own research, Bungie don't need to provide free advertisement for 343i.
They are being directed elsewhere because that is where their questions are supposed to be asked and are supposed to be answered. Talking about free advertising, didn't Bungie invite the community to play BF3? And hasn't there been carnages involving CoD and GoW3?

Is it that big of a deal to help the community in that respect? Whenever someone asks a question regarding the online play of Halo everyone will just tell them to go to 343i or Waypoint or whatever anyway so I don't see how putting a link there to reduce spam on this forum can be any worse.

Edit: btw Tom go to bed it's late for you lol.

[Edited on 02.29.2012 4:28 AM PST]

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Posted by: BadBall3r47
Maybe Bungie's bitter or maybe they think the 343i forums aren't worth promoting, or they just don't want to be seen endorsing 343i in an official manner. Or maybe it's a legal issue.

I haven't spent any time on the site so I don't know if it's bad or not but there has to be some animosity between Bungie and 343i.

Or maybe I'm just completely guessing and misjudging a situation. They probably should have a link there though, it might save us from having to post it ourselves over and over.

Edit: btw BB come to bed i'm getting cold lol.

[Edited on 02.29.2012 4:36 AM PST]

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Posted by: Tom T
Bungie are no longer managing the Halo universe, but why would they willingly direct the community they have nurtured over the course of a decade elsewhere? Those interested in the continuation of Halo are more than capable of doing their own research, Bungie don't need to provide free advertisement for 343i.


There is nothing else to say. This.

  • 02.29.2012 4:40 AM PDT

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Posted by: Yax
Maybe Bungie's bitter or maybe they think the 343i forums aren't worth promoting, or they just don't want to be seen endorsing 343i in an official manner. Or maybe it's a legal issue.
Hmm yeah, probably this.

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[Edited on 02.29.2012 4:42 AM PST]

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Posted by: Tom T
Bungie are no longer managing the Halo universe, but why would they willingly direct the community they have nurtured over the course of a decade elsewhere? Those interested in the continuation of Halo are more than capable of doing their own research, Bungie don't need to provide free advertisement for 343i.


This.

It's common Marketing knowledge that you don't advertise to the benefit of your competitor(s).

Besides, the 343 site is garbage. It's bland, barren as a desert at noon, and has less to show as far as stats than Bungie has.

I know Bungie's stat tracking ends when the month of March does, but even the frozen stats Bungie will offer is more than 343 knows how to do.

It's pathetic, really...

  • 02.29.2012 5:11 AM PDT

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Anyone trying to argue that a link to 343i being a poor choice because it'd be advertising a competitor is being silly. The gaming industry isn't a market in which a good or service is provided once, so advertising isn't nearly as important as you are making it out to be. Not to mention that several 343i employees came from Bungie. They aren't exactly enemies.

Halo discussion belongs at 343i website, so the OP is right in that discussion should be directed there.

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I doubt there is any animosity between the companies, a lot of Bungie employees stayed with Halo even though Bungie didn't. You can't hate your own friends. And they aren't even competitors, 343i is making Halo games almost exclusively (or even completely exclusively) and Bungie is branching out into something new. Yes, they are both game companies, but I can guarantee that the new IP will be different enough from Halo that nobody is going to be like, "Well I'd get this new IP but it's awfully similar to Halo so maybe I'll just get that."

  • 02.29.2012 5:30 AM PDT

Others have suggested this in the past, myself included. I'm still in favour of this, or at least a link to the game forums if the notice is viewed from the Bungie forums, e.g.

Bungie is no longer managing the Halo Universe. While our Halo-related forums and stats remain available, be advised that "official" answers and support about the Halo Universe (past, present, or future) are not. Official support can be found here.

[Edited on 02.29.2012 5:47 AM PST]

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I agree with you, OP. Having a link to their website with that information would make it easier to direct people to their website as well as to let people know that there's a place where there's official answers and help regarding Halo.

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Could it help? Sure. Will it? I don't think so.

It's already a blatantly obvious message to everyone that even considers posting, but yet most of everyone that has been under a rock are absolutely oblivious to the message anyway....

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Posted by: prometheus25
Anyone trying to argue that a link to 343i being a poor choice because it'd be advertising a competitor is being silly. The gaming industry isn't a market in which a good or service is provided once, so advertising isn't nearly as important as you are making it out to be. Not to mention that several 343i employees came from Bungie. They aren't exactly enemies.

Halo discussion belongs at 343i website, so the OP is right in that discussion should be directed there.
I wasn't suggesting the lack of a link is indicative of any animosity between Bungie and 343i - although I might as well refute the counter-argument that 343 is composed of many ex-Bungie employees, as they can be tallied on one hand.

I also wasn't arguing from a marketing stand-point. I was simply pointing out that Bungie would gain nothing from redirecting its community elsewhere.

Do you think Bungie wants its community to migrate to another site, which would be far more likely to occur if it endorsed 343i's site above each and every post?

Without the link Bungie.net is independent and completely disassociated from Halo, with it Bungie.net would seem outdated.

[Edited on 02.29.2012 8:51 AM PST]

  • 02.29.2012 8:50 AM PDT

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That's a terrible idea. It's like walmart tellin people to go to K-mart to buy supplies

  • 02.29.2012 9:04 AM PDT

Posted by: mister death
That's a terrible idea. It's like walmart tellin people to go to K-mart to buy supplies
No it isn't.

It's like going to a Walmart that carries the supplies but will not inform you of the right section until you mess up, whereas if you went to K-Mart for the same supply you would be given more immediate help before you got lost looking for your item.

Confusing? Yes. Logical? I think so. Wrong? No.

  • 02.29.2012 9:13 AM PDT

Given up on bungie. Not on Halo.
Ps. 343 Industries has more ambition then bungie did when they made Combat Evolved.


Posted by: Tom T
Bungie are no longer managing the Halo universe, but why would they willingly direct the community they have nurtured over the course of a decade elsewhere? Those interested in the continuation of Halo are more than capable of doing their own research, Bungie don't need to provide free advertisement for 343i.

Do you really think people are just gonna stop coming here? Bungie is an awesome studio. They'll make amazing games, and people are aware of that!
I think Halo and whatever Bungie makes next will be worthy of everyone's interest equally.

  • 02.29.2012 9:21 AM PDT

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Offtopic but TomT you changed your avatar, should we expect this from every other mod.

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Posted by: risay_117
Offtopic but TomT you changed your avatar, should we expect this from every other mod.
YOU CANNOT HIDE. I SEE YOU.

  • 02.29.2012 10:02 AM PDT

Posted by: Tom T
Posted by: risay_117
Offtopic but TomT you changed your avatar, should we expect this from every other mod.
YOU CANNOT HIDE. I SEE YOU.
@Tom....

@risay, he was nice enough to change his avatar back to his old avatar (a Halo Emblem Avatar) to support my thread ;)

  • 02.29.2012 10:10 AM PDT

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Posted by: prometheus25
Anyone trying to argue that a link to 343i being a poor choice because it'd be advertising a competitor is being silly. The gaming industry isn't a market in which a good or service is provided once, so advertising isn't nearly as important as you are making it out to be. Not to mention that several 343i employees came from Bungie. They aren't exactly enemies.

Halo discussion belongs at 343i website, so the OP is right in that discussion should be directed there.
I wasn't suggesting the lack of a link is indicative of any animosity between Bungie and 343i - although I might as well refute the counter-argument that 343 is composed of many ex-Bungie employees, as they can be tallied on one hand.

I also wasn't arguing from a marketing stand-point. I was simply pointing out that Bungie would gain nothing from redirecting its community elsewhere.

Do you think Bungie wants its community to migrate to another site, which would be far more likely to occur if it endorsed 343i's site above each and every post?

Without the link Bungie.net is independent and completely disassociated from Halo, with it Bungie.net would seem outdated.


I don't disagree with any of your counter-points, which is likely why my comment wasn't directed entirely to you, but to the thread at large.

And once again, I bring up my main argument. The gaming market isn't an exclusive-or logic gate. Bungie fans aren't forced to choose Bungie OR 343i, and not both.

I don't see the connection between directing Halo inquiries to 343i's website and losing Bungie fans from Bungie.net entirely that you are trying to make.

  • 02.29.2012 10:15 AM PDT

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Posted by: Tom T
Posted by: risay_117
Offtopic but TomT you changed your avatar, should we expect this from every other mod.
YOU CANNOT HIDE. I SEE YOU.

Cower in corner. Sentry deployed.

On Topic: Not worth it if they are not going to read it they wont care to notice the link and press it.

  • 02.29.2012 10:18 AM PDT

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