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Subject: Would the "playlist ban" help stop rampant quitting?
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People who quit any game outside of Rumble Pit should get slapped with a "playlist ban". This would be a short time-out from the playlist they quit from, where they can't search again in that playlist for a half hour, or until they complete another game in another playlist.

A second playlist ban in the same playlist received within 24 hours would have double consequences, where the player can't return to the playlist for a full hour or until they complete two games in other playlists.

The playlist ban would only affect people who quit in the first five minutes of a game. The playlist ban would not trigger if two or more people on your team have already quit.

The point of this is to stop the plague of selfish people quitting at the beginning of matches because they don't like the map or gametype that was voted on, and then searching again. The quitter ban is weak, and the system tolerates this sore loser behavior. A playlist ban would fix it.





I'm sure you've heard all this before.... "You guys voted for Elite Slayer? I'm quitting!" "Not Countdown again! I'm quitting!" "I'll never get this achievement if people never vote for this gametype! I'm quitting!" "This map doesn't have a Banshee, I'm quitting!" "Rocket Hog Race is retarded, I'm quitting!"

They'd think twice if they couldn't just back out and search again.


[Edited on 03.01.2012 6:15 AM PST]

  • 02.29.2012 1:02 PM PDT

nope. If some playlist ban came up I'd do what I already do on the quit ban: Get on another account and keep playing and quit the dumb maps or gametypes (like elite slayer).that get voted in.

I shouldn't be subject to play the stupidity of some of the stuff derp reach has.

  • 02.29.2012 1:10 PM PDT
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Posted by: Destiny 7
Nope. Nothing will stop quitting.

Why do you think this wouldn't make people less likely to quit when they're not happy with the outcome of a vote?

  • 02.29.2012 1:10 PM PDT
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Posted by: iTz Hermione
nope. If some playlist ban came up I'd do what I already do on the quit ban: Get on another account and keep playing and quit the dumb maps or gametypes (like elite slayer).that get voted in.

I shouldn't be subject to play the stupidity of some of the stuff derp reach has.

People with multiple accounts are really a tiny minority.

  • 02.29.2012 1:11 PM PDT


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Posted by: iTz Hermione
nope. If some playlist ban came up I'd do what I already do on the quit ban: Get on another account and keep playing and quit the dumb maps or gametypes (like elite slayer).that get voted in.


Bans are saved onto the Xbox. Not the account that received the ban.


strange because when I get quit banned I go on my other account and keep playing the quit ban doesn't appear anymore. I've done this multiple times =)

  • 02.29.2012 1:13 PM PDT


Posted by: iTz Hermione

Posted by: Destiny 7

Posted by: iTz Hermione
nope. If some playlist ban came up I'd do what I already do on the quit ban: Get on another account and keep playing and quit the dumb maps or gametypes (like elite slayer).that get voted in.


Bans are saved onto the Xbox. Not the account that received the ban.


strange because when I get quit banned I go on my other account and keep playing the quit ban doesn't appear anymore. I've done this multiple times =)

I've seen my quit ban warning displayed to other accounts playing on my XBox.

  • 02.29.2012 1:15 PM PDT
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How about 1 quit = automatic 10 minute ban.

No matter if you quit out, lag out, get booted you will get a 10 minute ban. Yup that's how it should be, because if you quit than you obviously have something to do so the 10 minutes wont effect you, but if you quit because you don't like the map, gametype, how the games going you deserve the ban.

If you lag out - Fix your internet, you're still leaving your team 1 person down and you could just disconnect yourself and get around the ban.
If you get booted - You shouldn't have betrayed and deal with it and you could just keep betraying til you get kicked to get around the ban.

[Edited on 02.29.2012 1:19 PM PST]

  • 02.29.2012 1:19 PM PDT


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I've seen my quit ban warning displayed to other accounts playing on my XBox.


maybe so but it lets you bypass that silly 10 min ban and keep playing. Even if somehow my entire console got the 10 min quit ban I have another 360 and I could keep playing.

Any form of a quit ban is simply futile and stupid. People who are smart enough will find a way around or play another game that doesn't encourage players to quit. A good game wouldn't make players quit often but Reach isn't that great. With some of it's poor choices in maps (hemorrhage) and bad gametypes (like elite slayer) it's no wonder many quit often.

  • 02.29.2012 1:19 PM PDT
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Posted by: tsujen
How about 1 quit = automatic 10 minute ban.

No matter if you quit out, lag out, get booted you will get a 10 minute ban. Yup that's how it should be, because if you quit than you obviously have something to do so the 10 minutes wont effect you, but if you quit because you don't like the map, gametype, how the games going you deserve the ban.

If you lag out - Fix your internet, you're still leaving your team 1 person down and you could just disconnect yourself and get around the ban.
If you get booted - You shouldn't have betrayed and deal with it and you could just keep betraying til you get kicked to get around the ban.

That's how it SHOULD be in an ideal world, but less drastic steps are less likely to piss people off. I'm not saying the playlist quitter ban is the ultimate solution, I'm saying it's a small step that will help a bit and shouldn't offend anyone.

  • 02.29.2012 1:23 PM PDT
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Posted by: iTz Hermione

Posted by: albinogoat

I've seen my quit ban warning displayed to other accounts playing on my XBox.


maybe so but it lets you bypass that silly 10 min ban and keep playing. Even if somehow my entire console got the 10 min quit ban I have another 360 and I could keep playing.

Any form of a quit ban is simply futile and stupid. People who are smart enough will find a way around or play another game that doesn't encourage players to quit. A good game wouldn't make players quit often but Reach isn't that great. With some of it's poor choices in maps (hemorrhage) and bad gametypes (like elite slayer) it's no wonder many quit often.

If you're playing Hemorrhage or Elite Slayer, that's because the majority of your lobby voted for it. You're being selfish when you quit because you lost a vote, plain and simple.

  • 02.29.2012 1:24 PM PDT
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Halo: Reach is the beginning of a new age for gaming.
It proves that developers can get away with punishing their players instead of fixing their game....and yet the fanboys will still sing praises to them.

-blam!- all of you fanboys!

Here's the plain and simple of it.

Why are we fighting against a vote to determine how we spend our time online?

You act as though these 15 other people I get locked into a room with are the only other people playing the game..
AS if I have no other choice but to play with them.

THERE ARE HUNDREDS IF NOT THOUSANDS OF OTHER PLAYERS TO PLAY WITH.

Why do you insist on locking people into a lobby with each other forcing them to have to play EVERY DAMN GAME it throws at them?


Oh I know why?
Because giving people the option to select exactly what they want to play would...

"Spread the population too thin"

Shutup.

I'll take anarchy in the online world over this democracy crap..any day.

People quit because they lost the vote.. you're absolutely right.
So lets punish them, instead of scrapping the voting system for something far superior.. Such as a server browser.

GREAT -blam!- IDEA...

No really.. SHUT THE -blam!- UP!


With that many people to play against. Does it not occur to you that...lone wolves don't hold any obligation to have to play that game with you. You are not part of their team, why should they have to constantly bend over backwards for you and your preferences?

I mean yeah, if I was playing with a bunch of people from my actual FRIENDS LIST, I'm expected to give way to what the majority of my friends want.

If a person jumps into matchmaking by himself.... Well, Tell me why you think that person should be obligated to play something they don't want to on your behalf?

Because it doesn't know how to replace lost players?

THEN FIX THAT PART OF IT!
Don't try to fix the player. Because the player is not the problem.

[Edited on 02.29.2012 2:34 PM PST]

  • 02.29.2012 2:25 PM PDT
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Nope. SouthPole isn't a person. He's the avatar of the force of tryhards everywhere. He stalks the web looking for retards to set straight. He can not be stopped by mere bans or thread locks for he shall rise anew.


Posted by: MR E0S


Why do you keep posting?

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RC RuNz the internet. Like the superintendent.

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Why are you playing multiplayer if you don't want to play
Posted by: MR E0S
Here's the plain and simple of it.

Why are we fighting against a vote to determine how we spend our time online?

You act as though these 15 other people I get locked into a room with are the only other people playing the game..
AS if I have no other choice but to play with them.

THERE ARE HUNDREDS IF NOT THOUSANDS OF OTHER PLAYERS TO PLAY WITH.

Why do you insist on locking people into a lobby with each other forcing them to have to play EVERY DAMN GAME it throws at them?


Oh I know why?
Because giving people the option to select exactly what they want to play would...

"Spread the population too thin"

Shutup.

I'll take anarchy in the online world over this democracy crap..any day.

People quit because they lost the vote.. you're absolutely right.
So lets punish them, instead of scrapping the voting system for something far superior.. Such as a server browser.

GREAT -blam!- IDEA...

No really.. SHUT THE -blam!- UP!


With that many people to play against. Does it not occur to you that...lone wolves don't hold any obligation to have to play that game with you. You are not part of their team, why should they have to constantly bend over backwards for you and your preferences?

Why are you playing multiplayer if you don't want to play other players, E0S?

  • 02.29.2012 2:34 PM PDT


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Posted by: MR E0S


Why do you keep posting?

Because he's right and we're wrong, obviously.

  • 02.29.2012 2:35 PM PDT
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Posted by: RC Clone
Nope. SouthPole isn't a person. He's the avatar of the force of tryhards everywhere. He stalks the web looking for retards to set straight. He can not be stopped by mere bans or thread locks for he shall rise anew.


Posted by: ThreeSixXero

Posted by: SouthPoIe

Posted by: MR E0S


Why do you keep posting?

Because he's right and we're wrong, obviously.


Being completely serious. Does he not realize that everyone laughs at him?

I'm starting to think that he's someone's alt made to troll.

  • 02.29.2012 2:38 PM PDT
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*wonders how New Clan Recruitment For Shadow Pack thread gets 55 replies*

*reads "Hi I'm Ashley. . ." *

[Question Answered]

*proceeds to read on, shakes head, and gently laughs*

That whole thing would be perfect if applied to Coop Campaign. Dont have an opinion for other playlist though.

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Posted by: RC Clone
Nope. SouthPole isn't a person. He's the avatar of the force of tryhards everywhere. He stalks the web looking for retards to set straight. He can not be stopped by mere bans or thread locks for he shall rise anew.

Quitting would be almost non existent if we had even matches (1-50) and good settings/maps.

  • 02.29.2012 2:41 PM PDT
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Halo: Reach is the beginning of a new age for gaming.
It proves that developers can get away with punishing their players instead of fixing their game....and yet the fanboys will still sing praises to them.

-blam!- all of you fanboys!

Ok, let's get techinal with it.

Lets say there's 100,000 players online

What is the likely hood of finding 15 other people who want to play EXACTLY what you want to play out of that 100,000?

I'm sure there are at least 15 people in the pool that would no doubt play with me on an exact map/gametype combo.

Matchmaking doesn't work in such a way to filter out all the people that don't share the same perference as I do.

It's only filter is to make you select a playlist full of random -blam!-, and then puts random people in the room with you and you fight against a vote.

I mean, my only filter available to me (since I like bigger games) is one playlist BTB. That is the ONE AND ONLY PLAYLIST that supports the largest player size at one time. Where's the rest of my filters? so I don't have to constantly quit on on people who like playing -blam!- I don't.

That's not giving much of a preference to players.

What if I wanted to play a 16 player match on a map, that isn't even in the BTB playlists? What then? Customs? Right....

You should already know what the problem with customs is and if you don't.. just shutup.

[Edited on 02.29.2012 2:45 PM PST]

  • 02.29.2012 2:43 PM PDT

Posted by: MR E0SGo away.

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Posted by: Horse Repairman
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Posted by: MR E0S
Ok, let's get techinal with it.

Lets say there's 100,000 players online

What is the likely hood of finding 15 other people who want to play EXACTLY what you want to play out of that 100,000?

I'm sure there are at least 15 people in the pool that would no doubt play with me on an exact map/gametype combo.

Matchmaking doesn't work in such a way to filter out all the people that don't share the same perference as I do.

It's only filter is to make you select a playlist full of random -blam!-, and then puts random people in the room with you and you fight against a vote.

I mean, my only filter available to me (since I like bigger games) is one playlist BTB. That is the ONE AND ONLY PLAYLIST that supports the largest player size at one time. Where's the rest of my filters? so I don't have to constantly quit on on people who like playing -blam!- I don't.

That's not giving much of a preference to players.

What if I wanted to play a 16 player match on a map, that isn't even in the BTB playlists? What then? Customs? Right....

You should already know what the problem with customs is and if you don't.. just shutup.

There are only a few map and gametypes that I completely refuse to play. So I'm usually content with whatever gets picked. even when I don't like it, most of the time I will stick around so as not to screw over the team I am playing with since I usually cheat by having friends that will play together with me.

Maybe you should learn how to cheat like me.

  • 02.29.2012 2:47 PM PDT
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Halo: Reach is the beginning of a new age for gaming.
It proves that developers can get away with punishing their players instead of fixing their game....and yet the fanboys will still sing praises to them.

-blam!- all of you fanboys!

They laughed at Noah too.

If you believe that story.

  • 02.29.2012 2:48 PM PDT
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Posted by: RC Clone
Nope. SouthPole isn't a person. He's the avatar of the force of tryhards everywhere. He stalks the web looking for retards to set straight. He can not be stopped by mere bans or thread locks for he shall rise anew.


Posted by: MR E0S


Again, MM would work if we had the 1-50 and proper settings. If you don't like the settings, play customs where you can play whatever you retards find "fun".

Because that's basically what you're suggesting. You want to play a very specific map and game? Get friends who also want to play it and start up a custom game.

  • 02.29.2012 2:48 PM PDT
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Halo: Reach is the beginning of a new age for gaming.
It proves that developers can get away with punishing their players instead of fixing their game....and yet the fanboys will still sing praises to them.

-blam!- all of you fanboys!

So basically, you're just willing to put up with the bull-blam!- of playing stupid -blam!-, just for everyone elses benefit.

Well, if you haven't noticed. My entire fight, is to get rid of the bull-blam!-, period.

"Even when I don't like it, most of the time I will stick around...blah blah"

Why? WHY?

  • 02.29.2012 2:50 PM PDT

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