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Subject: We must rise against the March update.

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Give it to me now!
(Please?)

Me.

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The March update, as spawn031 said, outlined this:

Posted by: 343 Industries
-Grifball updated
-Infection updated
-Evade removed from Spartan loadout - IN ALL PLAYLISTS (excluding Grifball)
-Anniversary Squad and Squad Slayer removed
-Super Slayer playlist added
-Bleedthrough is removed from TU gametypes
-Team Hotshot updated
-Team Objective goes to 5v5
-BTB finally gets "Heavies" added to playlist.



What is the good in this?:
The good in this update is that Team Objective will bring more players in with 5 people. This proves good so this way, it brings in those who like Objective games and so they can get off of other playlists to play a fun game of Objective. I, personally, don't play Objective, so this could actually be a bad thing.

BTB will get a new spice of life. A new "Heavies playlist which is, for those who don't know,:
Posted by: 343 Industries
Heavies, for the uninitiated amongst us, is a game type perfect for those who love vehicular action. Not only are there more Warthogs, Scorpions, Banshees, Falcons, Revenants, and Ghosts than you could ever ask for, but there are also a higher-than-average amount of power and anti-vehicle weapons, just waiting to cause mass destruction.

We have also taken some steps to give foot soldiers a better experience; slight changes to geometry provide more cover, speed has been upped to 110 percent (which is not a huge difference but it's enough to make you slightly more resistant to the impending chaos going on around you), and many standard Infantry kills are rewarded with a bonus point.

This game type has a score limit of 200 with bonus points awarded for headshots, beat downs, assassinations, splatters, and sticks.


This playlist is a massacre of vehices, along with lots of resistance. Which is what Halo is about. Halo promotes fun gameplay, which brings me to the bad things in the March update.

What is the bad in this?:
There are multiple steps down from this update, which proves 343 is very new and tends to listen to casuals. I do not believe they check other forums for feedback, as people can not all go onto Waypoint forums.

Squad Slayer and Anniversary Slayer, the two gametypes where the TU is implemented right and bring out your competitive side of gameplay, are being removed no reason. 343 gives no reason to tell us why, and they just go on and think everybody is all puppies and children with the removal. News flash 343: WE AREN'T. The two most fun gametypes are being removed and being replaced with a replica of Team Slayer, which is a whole different playlist from the two. With better maps and forcing players to have superior coordination, it gave a ray of hope to the once-forsaken darkness that is Halo: Reach. But now that it is being removed, Halo: Reach becomes a nuclear wasteland full of nothingness.

Super Slayer will NOT help gameplay. 343 has tried playlists like this before, and failed. No doubt that only 400-600 players will play this playlist. Squad had triple that, and Anniversary double that. 343 will not even try to spice it up on this playlist, just take Team Slayer, put TU on it, then call it a whole new gaming experience. 343 probably wouldn't see a gaming experience if they saw one.

BLEEDTHROUGH IS BEING REMOVED. Why? You take a perfectly good feature, that is working well, and crush it because the idiots on your forum are casuals, and do not even TRY to have a competitive experience. We will have to revert to the lesser skilled PUMMEL plus PUMMEL equals KILL experience, instead of the better man giving a 3-4 SHOT AT BODY plus PUMMEL equals KILL experience. "Why is that bad?" you ask. It is bad because even though Reach's sandbox was not designed for Bleedthrough, it gave a challenge to the player before they entered a CQC fight. Should I try the first equation or the second? It hurts the game very, very badly.

Evade is being removed. This will force you to only one loadout if you want to move from place to place: Sprint. But Sprint only helps you in a run situation. Evade was good for any situation, except a tank of course, and did not deserve to be removed. What was bad about it? You tell me.

So is there anything that doesn't matter in the update?

The Team Hotshot and Infection/Grifball updates will just update maps, and Team Hotshot will give you flames when you have Heat 3/3.


As you can see, the bad outweighs the good. 343 does not listen to anyone but their forums. What we need to do, is rise up at their forums. All those who are banned, make another account. Give them a "spirited discussion" about their update. About 7/8 of the people here do not agree with the update. So why not go to their forums, put in a post that is totally legit and not offensive against 343, but against the update, and maul their forums? A burst of activity will surely spark their interest. The few mods there will not be able to handle the ENTIRE REACH FORUM saying why they don't like it. Let's show them who to listen to.


TL:DR
Let's all go to 343 forums and tell them why we don't like the March update. If you want to know why, read the post.



UPDATE/EDIT: Support the cause!

[Edited on 03.02.2012 3:48 PM PST]

  • 03.01.2012 5:29 PM PDT
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Posted by: Horse Repairman
RC RuNz the internet. Like the superintendent.

Posted by: SouthPoIe
Clone is an internet God.

Posted by: DerpRoids
RC Clone is the anti-thesis of a lurker.

Give up. Its too late.

Everyone that thinks this stuff is bad automatically gets their thread locked and the idiots that got this change to happen in the first place are everywhere.

Just give up and stop playing this shtty game.


That's what I'm doing.

  • 03.01.2012 5:32 PM PDT

Love playing custom games?

Well come join Customs Evolved

We are group dedicated to playing custom games, map testing, game nights, etc. Anyone is welcomed to join, and we hope to have as much fun as possible!

TL:DR
Let's all go to 343 forums and tell them why we don't like the March update. If you want to know why, read the post.

Then why not start in the 343 forum.

[Edited on 03.01.2012 5:33 PM PST]

  • 03.01.2012 5:32 PM PDT

Waypoint is useless now, many have already spoken up there. It's obvious which path 343 is taking the franchise down. It's sad.

  • 03.01.2012 5:35 PM PDT

Love playing custom games?

Well come join Customs Evolved

We are group dedicated to playing custom games, map testing, game nights, etc. Anyone is welcomed to join, and we hope to have as much fun as possible!


Posted by: boomdeyadah
Waypoint is useless now, many have already spoken up there. It's obvious which path 343 is taking the franchise down. It's sad.

Well then there is no hope. But like RC, already stopped playing matchmaking. Months ago actually.

  • 03.01.2012 5:37 PM PDT

Well all the Squad players are going to inevitably migrate to Supper Slayer and 343 will think it is a great success.



[Edited on 03.01.2012 5:42 PM PST]

  • 03.01.2012 5:40 PM PDT

I've already lost hope. This update alone tells me 343 does not care about the competitive side of Halo, only caring about the casuals who love infection and Grifball. Future updates and Halo 4 will be garbage. The only place to play Reach now is MLG, but that simply requires a whole new level of playstyle.

I am a confused and saddened Halo veteran.

[Edited on 03.01.2012 5:45 PM PST]

  • 03.01.2012 5:44 PM PDT

That's the reason I switched. No AL.

It's like 343 thinks this game *needs* AL. Even the nerfed AL is just awful.

Squad Slayer was annoying enough with Jet-pack and Camo. I mean Reach still has to be really annoying right? Or it would lose its charm.


[Edited on 03.01.2012 5:46 PM PST]

  • 03.01.2012 5:45 PM PDT

I'm in love with Jesus and proud of it!


Posted by: xSmoothmouse
Well all the Squad players are going to inevitably migrate to Supper Slayer and 343 will think it is a great success.



Screw that. I played my first TS game in months the other day... I was stuck on Eden Minor against a full party. That was also my last TS game in Reach.

I'm gonna miss Squad... D:

  • 03.01.2012 5:46 PM PDT

I'm in love with Jesus and proud of it!


Posted by: boomdeyadah
The only place to play Reach now is MLG, but that simply requires a whole new level of playstyle.


That, and going in as a random is a death wish.

  • 03.01.2012 5:47 PM PDT

The only reason I might comeback after the update is because of BTBheavies. It seems like a fun game to play. I like driving vehicles, I like causing chaos. Seems like a perfect gametype for me.

  • 03.01.2012 5:48 PM PDT

Be sure to tell everyone how cool you are. If you don't tell them, they won't know.

My only gripe is objective moving to 5v5. objective was perfect as it was

  • 03.01.2012 5:48 PM PDT
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It's futile, this update is a complete joke, a right slap in the face for competitive players. You might as well give up, no matter how many times you try, 343 will blatantly ignore you and further butcher this once amazing series.

It's pretty obvious the company are only after the cash, hell it wouldn't surprise if 343 don't give two -blam!-s about Halo 4 as long as people buy it. I've noticed that most of the threads that were against the March update was either locked, banished or the OP was banned for speaking out.

I'm not entirely competitive in any nature, I'm more on the casual side, but I know when a change is bad and I'm seeing one right now. The Waypoint kids are full of retards that need to be nuked out of orbit.

[Edited on 03.01.2012 5:50 PM PST]

  • 03.01.2012 5:48 PM PDT

I only played TS last week to get my votes in. It was arduous.

Well we already know what 343 did with that data, something inexplicable of course.

What the hell kind of analysis went on with those results?



[Edited on 03.01.2012 5:50 PM PST]

  • 03.01.2012 5:49 PM PDT

Forget it man, and get with the countdown. Shake this square world and blast off for Kicksville.

Reach host ranking algorithm: (a*quit_percentage + b*isMexican + c*(1/KDR) + d*hasGuest) * 100
where a > b = d > c

You rise up.

I'm going to lay down and quit.

  • 03.01.2012 5:50 PM PDT
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They are removing Squad Slayer???

Seriously?

That was the best playlist in the game...sure I haven't played Reach in many months but damn, that playlist was the only reason I stuck with Reach for so long in the first place.

  • 03.01.2012 5:56 PM PDT

I want my elephant back.
Give it to me now!
(Please?)

Me.

lol


Posted by: AzNs4LiF3
TL:DR
Let's all go to 343 forums and tell them why we don't like the March update. If you want to know why, read the post.

Then why not start in the 343 forum.


Then how am I supposed to get people to know?

It would be Me vs a whole forum of idiots and mods who are sensitive if you even say "I don't like Halo".

  • 03.01.2012 6:10 PM PDT

Posted by: Mr Extremer22
and mods who are sensitive if you even say "I don't like vanilla Reach, it's not Halo."
ftfy

  • 03.01.2012 6:11 PM PDT

I want my elephant back.
Give it to me now!
(Please?)

Me.

lol


Posted by: boomdeyadah
Posted by: Mr Extremer22
and mods who are sensitive if you even say "I don't like vanilla Reach, it's not Halo."
ftfy


Thanks brah

  • 03.01.2012 6:12 PM PDT

I want my elephant back.
Give it to me now!
(Please?)

Me.

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  • 03.01.2012 6:33 PM PDT

Ever wonder what's up there?

I like the changes. Leave Reach as it is and focus with Halo 4.

[Edited on 03.01.2012 6:35 PM PST]

  • 03.01.2012 6:34 PM PDT

I want my elephant back.
Give it to me now!
(Please?)

Me.

lol


Posted by: angello22
Nope ur bad


/opinion

  • 03.01.2012 6:35 PM PDT

I DESPISE 343 right now.

  • 03.01.2012 6:36 PM PDT

I want my elephant back.
Give it to me now!
(Please?)

Me.

lol


Posted by: angello22
I like the changes. Leave Reach as it is and focus with Halo 4.


Nice post change.

Still, as I said, the bad outweighs the good. You may be part of the 1/8 that are a big fans of it, but still.

  • 03.01.2012 6:38 PM PDT