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Subject: We must rise against the March update.

but i like it, evade was annoying, bleedthrough was waaayyy OP, and never played squad slayer and whatever the other one was. Wooohoo march update

  • 03.06.2012 10:50 PM PDT

im verry dissapointed by the march update. evade is lost instead of armorlock, the heavy maps are useless because vihecles spawn very fast and there is no space to drive them.dmr fights are lost, now halo is not a game of skills, every noob has 10 rockets and can kill very easilly.... halo reach is now very chaotic, i lost my interest now of this game it was the best game of all now its ruined.... :(

  • 03.07.2012 6:39 AM PDT

I love halo and bungie. thank you for the best games ever! <3
..I hate my username.

The fact that 343 is not even doing a beta because it 'Halts the progress of Halo 4' says enough. They rather release a game without getting feedback from the community than releasing the game 3 months later.
They don't even care what the fans want. It's sad. I Start to hate them. They completely ruined reach, their maps suck, the updates are horrible.

[Edited on 03.07.2012 7:07 AM PST]

  • 03.07.2012 7:06 AM PDT

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Update was fine by me, had a very enjoyable time yesterday going through some matches.
Was nice once again to beat down someone and not come out of it with all of my health gone. Even those who ran at me still went down after they landed the first blow.
And of course the Needle Rifle feels a little less OP now that it takes one more shot to kill like before. Keeps it more in line with the DMR and Pistol despite the 100% accurate full auto.

I think it's a nice blend of old and new.

[Edited on 03.07.2012 7:33 AM PST]

  • 03.07.2012 7:32 AM PDT

I'm not racist, I own a colored TV

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[Edited on 03.07.2012 8:04 AM PST]

  • 03.07.2012 8:02 AM PDT

I'm not racist, I own a colored TV


Posted by: Myth iZ
lol @ ppl playing Super Slayer.

Lol at blocked Gt...

  • 03.07.2012 8:03 AM PDT

I'm not racist, I own a colored TV


Posted by: Gh0st is Bad

Posted by: My Name is Ryan
Bro... Super Slayer is actually pretty fun. CALM DOWN
No, super slayer is filled with terrible Mexicans playing on their electronic burritos.


Terrible kids sure, Mexicans and burritos, I would hope not. I hate red bar teleporting Mexicans connecting using dial up connection at a BP.

  • 03.07.2012 8:06 AM PDT

I'm not racist, I own a colored TV


Posted by: KandeeDaftPunk
They completely ruined reach, their maps suck, the updates are horrible.


Reach was ruined when it had the beta. Bungie didn't listen to it's fans.

Bloom
Armor abilities that are OP
Nuke grenades
No Ranking system that takes skill
Spartan dress up = CR system

When someone is a higher rank then you, they should be better at the game, nuff said.

Oh and I agree, the maps they make blow fat balls. I hate the new infection maps, and BTB heavies is a complete fail.

  • 03.07.2012 8:09 AM PDT

I'm not racist, I own a colored TV


Posted by: Blackiegr
i lost my interest now of this game it was the best game of all now its ruined.... :(


LOL, no, just no. Halo 1>2>3>Reach<Barbie Island Fun Time Horse Grooming.

  • 03.07.2012 8:13 AM PDT

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Posted by: boomdeyadah
Waypoint is useless now, many have already spoken up there. It's obvious which path 343 is taking the franchise down. It's sad.


This.

I'm one of the many, many people who have posted their... dislike of the recent updates in the Waypoint Forums.

MLG, Casual, mid-level players, all have voiced their opposition to these changes and to the direction that these changes are taking Reach and the Franchise in general. Even "hardcore" 343 lackeys are hating on the changes.

There are hundreds upon hundreds of posts full of negative opinions about the changes, and maybe 1% or posts are actually positive about the changes.

And you know what? 343 doesn't give a -blam!-. They aren't reading the posts, they don't actually care what the people who are playing these games are saying about their work.

Now, 343 says that the response to their changes is overwhelming. That they are awash in positive comments and are amazed at how much people like what they are doing...

When looking at the Forums, I can't help but think that they are getting these positive opinions from some other Forum that no one knows about. The overriding opinion on their own Forums is very, very negative, but yet they say that the majority of people like it?

343 is flat out lying to all of the fans of Halo, everywhere.

As I said at the top of my post; 343 isn't making the game for casuals, nor do they apparently have the Pro/MLG players in mind. Not even the seriously competitive amateur players are being listened to.

343 is making all of their decisions internally, they aren't reading their own Forums to see if their changes are working or even if people like the changes, they are just doing it to try and separate themselves from Bungie.

They are ruining many peoples' favorite franchise out of a sense of foolish pride, not because it is actually making the game better.

As someone posted on the Waypoint Forums in a description of 343's efforts to "improve" Halo: Reach: "Take one step forward, fall eighteen months back..."

If this is the direction that 343 is hellbent on taking Halo, and if this is an indication of what Halo 4 will look like, then I'm pretty sure I won't be wasting my money on Halo 4.

And that's what it would be, a waste.

Halo is my favorite franchise of all time, and to have to admit all of the things listed above makes me very sad indeed. It feels like watching a best friend die slowly and painfully.

I can only hope that 343 bombs so badly that Microsoft begs Bungie to resume development of Halo and everything that 343 has done gets washed away like a very bad dream.

  • 03.07.2012 8:24 AM PDT

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Posted by: snip3r dud33
Honestly, this is a good cover up for all the idiots who won't know its a cover up .


Posted by: Mr Extremer22
The March update, as spawn031 said, outlined this:

Posted by: 343 Industries
-Grifball updated
-Infection updated
-Evade removed from Spartan loadout - IN ALL PLAYLISTS (excluding Grifball)
-Anniversary Squad and Squad Slayer removed
-Super Slayer playlist added
-Bleedthrough is removed from TU gametypes
-Team Hotshot updated
-Team Objective goes to 5v5
-BTB finally gets "Heavies" added to playlist.
[/quote]


What is the good in this?:
The good in this update is that Team Objective will bring more players in with 5 people. This proves good so this way, it brings in those who like Objective games and so they can get off of other playlists to play a fun game of Objective. I, personally, don't play Objective, so this could actually be a bad thing.[/quote]

No one even plays Objective. The only reason it should exist is to have Stockpile in it, which it does not. Anniv. Slayer has Headhunter, KOTH, and Oddball, which makes this obsolete.

BTB will get a new spice of life. A new "Heavies playlist which is, for those who don't know,:
Posted by: 343 Industries
Heavies, for the uninitiated amongst us, is a game type perfect for those who love vehicular action. Not only are there more Warthogs, Scorpions, Banshees, Falcons, Revenants, and Ghosts than you could ever ask for, but there are also a higher-than-average amount of power and anti-vehicle weapons, just waiting to cause mass destruction.

We have also taken some steps to give foot soldiers a better experience; slight changes to geometry provide more cover, speed has been upped to 110 percent (which is not a huge difference but it's enough to make you slightly more resistant to the impending chaos going on around you), and many standard Infantry kills are rewarded with a bonus point.

This game type has a score limit of 200 with bonus points awarded for headshots, beat downs, assassinations, splatters, and sticks.[/quote]

This playlist is a massacre of vehices, along with lots of resistance. Which is what Halo is about. Halo promotes fun gameplay, which brings me to the bad things in the March update.[/quote]

Too stupid, too easy. Only reason for existence is for Commendations for Kills with Vehicles.

[/quote]What is the bad in this?:
There are multiple steps down from this update, which proves 343 is very new and tends to listen to casuals. I do not believe they check other forums for feedback, as people can not all go onto Waypoint forums.


Yup.

Squad Slayer and Anniversary Slayer, the two gametypes where the TU is implemented right and bring out your competitive side of gameplay, are being removed no reason. 343 gives no reason to tell us why, and they just go on and think everybody is all puppies and children with the removal. News flash 343: WE AREN'T. The two most fun gametypes are being removed and being replaced with a replica of Team Slayer, which is a whole different playlist from the two.

I don't see how having one extra player would drastically change Team Slayer, but okay.

With better maps and forcing players to have superior coordination, it gave a ray of hope to the once-forsaken darkness that is Halo: Reach.

Better maps? Such as...?

But now that it is being removed, Halo: Reach becomes a nuclear wasteland full of nothingness.

Super Slayer will NOT help gameplay. 343 has tried playlists like this before, and failed. No doubt that only 400-600 players will play this playlist. Squad had triple that, and Anniversary double that. 343 will not even try to spice it up on this playlist, just take Team Slayer, put TU on it, then call it a whole new gaming experience. 343 probably wouldn't know a gaming experience if they saw one.


Fix'd. I agree. 343 is ruining Reach. It was fine before the TU. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

BLEEDTHROUGH IS BEING REMOVED. Why? You take a perfectly good feature, that is working well, and crush it because the idiots on your forum are casuals, and do not even TRY to have a competitive experience.

Who cares? MLG bawwwwwed about enough -blam!- that ruined Reach, so quit whining when stuff you like gets removed.

We will have to revert to the lesser skilled PUMMEL plus PUMMEL equals KILL experience, instead of the better man giving a 3-4 SHOT AT BODY plus PUMMEL equals KILL experience. "Why is that bad?" you ask. It is bad because even though Reach's sandbox was not designed for Bleedthrough, it gave a challenge to the player before they entered a CQC fight. Should I try the first equation or the second? It hurts the game very, very badly.

How does that take LESS skill? A Double Pummel takes MORE skill, as the opponent lives longer and has a higher chance of killing you.

Evade is being removed.

My least favorite part of the update.

This will force you to only one loadout if you want to move from place to place: Sprint. But Sprint only helps you in a run situation. Evade was good for any situation, except a tank of course, and did not deserve to be removed. What was bad about it? You tell me.

MLG idiots who play FFA whined about Sword + Evade = too hard to kill.

So is there anything that doesn't matter in the update?

The Team Hotshot and Infection/Grifball updates will just update maps, and Team Hotshot will give you flames when you have Heat 3/3.


HURR HURR, LET'S EDIT THE LEAST IMPORTANT GAMETYPES OF REACH WHILE CREATING NEW RULES THAT DEVESTATE THE OTHER MODES. WHATCOULDGOWRONG?

I think that 343 is just making changes modes that they do good at better. They only Play Action Sack, Grifball, And Living Dead, and as a result, edited those gametypes to make them so they could do better, like sore losers. I'm calling bs angel out on 2v2 Slayer. I'll take her on.


As you can see, the bad outweighs the good. 343 does not listen to anyone but their forums.


Which is rampant with idiots and little kids.

What we need to do, is rise up at their forums. All those who are banned, make another account. Give them a "spirited discussion" about their update. About 7/8 of the people here do not agree with the update. So why not go to their forums, put in a post that is totally legit and not offensive against 343, but against the update, and maul their forums? A burst of activity will surely spark their interest.

I doubt that 343 even knows that they have a forum. They probably just make changes themselves.

The few mods there will not be able to handle the ENTIRE REACH FORUM saying why they don't like it. Let's show them who to listen to.

I would, but I won't give them the satisfaction of a new account.

  • 03.07.2012 8:27 AM PDT

AHAHAHAHUA WOWOWWO. All right let's be honest with ourselves. Anyone upset that evade is taken out is worse than a casual. Evade was the epitome of absence of skill. If you think incorporating evade into your halo tactics improved your skill you are sadly in denial. Taking out evade does wonders to improve halo's competitive edge. Yes taking out armor lock will further that but all in due time.

  • 03.07.2012 10:10 AM PDT


Posted by: My Name is Ryan

Posted by: KandeeDaftPunk
They completely ruined reach, their maps suck, the updates are horrible.


Reach was ruined when it had the beta. Bungie didn't listen to it's fans.

Bloom
Armor abilities that are OP
Nuke grenades
No Ranking system that takes skill
Spartan dress up = CR system

When someone is a higher rank then you, they should be better at the game, nuff said.

Oh and I agree, the maps they make blow fat balls. I hate the new infection maps, and BTB heavies is a complete fail.

Ummmm no. What sets halo apart is that actual skill >>>>>>> rank. Look at yourself, you seem to be a very skilled player but have a low rank. I would rather have you on my team than a forerunner.

  • 03.07.2012 10:13 AM PDT

The 5 v 5 team objective sounds like a good thing. I remember playing Social Skirmish in Halo 3 when it was 5 v 5 and it was so fun. However taking out squad slayer is the worst thing they did.

  • 03.07.2012 10:21 AM PDT

Dammit 343 WHY!!!!! you can see the beloved fans of halo are aggitated and you do nothing to fix the situation. theres a reason you were just the graphics department with bungie. you dont know or ever will have the great feeling when you have please gamers of halo. read the forums and make changes NOW!!!!!!

  • 03.07.2012 11:12 AM PDT

REACH 2 ACHIEVE.
Pink but deadly

I do have resentment towards 343 that will never change unless they deliver a totally mind blowing experience in Halo 4. Though I've seen the preview from a supplied link, I'm still disappointed in them... Even if they did get me on their side, I'd still have it against them because of what they are doing to reach.

  • 03.07.2012 11:40 AM PDT

hahahaha lol agreed

  • 03.07.2012 12:36 PM PDT

I just hate the fact that Big Team Battle now seems to be big Team Heavies.

Sure playing Heavies every now and then is fine but having to play it over and over and over consecutively is not fun.

  • 03.07.2012 12:39 PM PDT

lets all just cross our fingers and hope that 343 will FIX the ISSUES they have CAUSED in the april update

  • 03.07.2012 12:43 PM PDT


Posted by: martrdom95
lets all just cross our fingers and hope that 343 will FIX the ISSUES they have CAUSED in the april update


Lol @343 they messed up Reach even worse, I prefer default rish over this -blam!- any day.

I knew they would begin messing up but i did not think they would mess up so soon.

Ah well

  • 03.07.2012 12:45 PM PDT

REACH 2 ACHIEVE.
Pink but deadly


Posted by: BerserkWolf

Posted by: martrdom95
lets all just cross our fingers and hope that 343 will FIX the ISSUES they have CAUSED in the april update


Lol @343 they messed up Reach even worse, I prefer default rish over this -blam!- any day.

I knew they would begin messing up but i did not think they would mess up so soon.

Ah well

On the upside, they fixed betrayal killing in infection.

  • 03.07.2012 1:09 PM PDT

"Death is an inconvenience now.... We are All Dead Men Walking."
"The Sniper Rifle is a Support weapon, your supposed to sneak around with it. Not stand in the open"
"Armor Lock is boss if you know how to use it!"
"I like the idea of a professional troll, though, it makes me think of a hideous creature under a bridge handing out business cards." -Ben "Yahtzee" Croshaw

Haven't played in over a year, and with Armored Core V on the horizon, I don't think I'll be playing anytime soon. So it doesn't affect me in the slightest

  • 03.07.2012 1:38 PM PDT

THE S4UCE IS THE B055

i can't play big team battle now... And i'm not gonna buy a map pack..

  • 03.07.2012 2:53 PM PDT

REACH 2 ACHIEVE.
Pink but deadly


Posted by: AW3S0MES4UCE
i can't play big team battle now... And i'm not gonna buy a map pack..

They've got another map pack for it??

  • 03.08.2012 2:39 PM PDT
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I havent played yet on MM but I dont think it will affect me and my TS/LD/FF games... but I can see why people are upset... This is total crap, I think only 2 gametype arent TU (thank god they left TS the way it is)

343i should make a place for casual gamer AND not forget the community/competitive side...

[Edited on 03.08.2012 2:53 PM PST]

  • 03.08.2012 2:53 PM PDT