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Posted by: Woodsie
Having a Pelican in matchmaking will only work if both of the following conditions are met.

1) Ample sized maps. Containment probably wouldn't be big enough. But judging by some of the maps on Perfect Suck Zero I'm pretty sure the concept of large maps is in play for Halo 3.

2) 64+ player matches. It would be completely rediculous in 8 on 8 to be able to transport your entire team to the enemy base in the air.


Listen, all you need to do is go play BATTLEFIELD 2 for PC (not the lame Xbox 360 version) and you'll see what I mean. It has 64+ player matches on huge maps with TONS of simultaneous land, sea, and air vehicles INCLUDING a Blackhawk helicopter than can carry up to 6 players. You can fly your squad over or behind enemy territory and parachute out.

It would hardly be revolutionary if Halo 3 did any of this. Battlefield 2 is so far ahead of console online gaming its not even funny, and the game came a year ago. Everyone at Bungie should go play Battlefield 2 for PC and then have a meeting to discuss. Not that Halo 3 should be anything but another Halo game, but there are some lessons to be learned. Much like pretty much every single other Xbox developer still has TONS to learn from Halo 2...that they still somehow haven't bothered to learn.






he's right about that... it'll only work with a chaotic playground where much happens at a time.. otherwise it would be dull

  • 05.23.2006 2:14 PM PDT

lol

"Everyone at Bungie should go play Battlefield 2 for PC and then have a meeting to discuss"

Yay, now bungie can go rip ideas out of EA! Wort!

I think Bungie wouldnt want the designers playing other games much, I think people would see it - if Bungie made things and ideas similar to other games - as "ripping".

I dont really think having 64+ players as being 'Halo', I mean.. I think it would be cool to play as John, Will, Fred and Linda and all that lot, and make multiplayer sticking to the story.. I mean there isnt even 16 spartans alive? (Ok, Im going overboard here but.. 64.. about 50% will be 13 year olds, shouting down the mic "NO GIVE ME THE ROCKET LAUNCHER", so everyone knows your position.. great..). And also, how many people actually play as a team? 32-32. I doubt anyone would stick together, well a few would, but if you could order people around, if it was a clan match, wow.. 32 people marching into a lil' old base like BG. Hah.. fun. But not likely... and not Halo. (in my opinion)

Posted by: mstrchief4600
All adding a pelican will do is make Bungie have to design more levels...


How dont you know Bungie have designed some levels to suit pelicans though? So infact, if they DIDNT include pelicans.. those levels would of been a waste of time. Eh? eh?

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  • 05.23.2006 2:19 PM PDT

lol

delete please

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(Ok, Im going overboard here but.. 64.. about 50% will be 13 year olds, shouting down the mic "NO GIVE ME THE ROCKET LAUNCHER", so everyone knows your position.. great..)

lol, or like red vs blue... saying it first as fast as possible...... would make a big crowd on your headset :p

  • 05.23.2006 2:21 PM PDT
Subject: Would you want to fly A Pelican in Halo 3?

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  • 05.23.2006 2:22 PM PDT
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i do see some advantages to a pelican...like in a huge MP match where you would drop off your buddies...but i dont understand why people are so interested in flying it around

  • 05.23.2006 2:22 PM PDT
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Posted by: Super_Soldier_1
Won't it be so cool if you could fly a Pelican. I mean imagine flying over a couple Elites in Ghosts whale a Covnent dropship shoots at you. Then you order your Marines out and then start shooting the Covnent dropship. Then you receive orders to go pick up some Marines that are retreating. You arrive and pick them up whale ownning the remaning Covnent with your 30. Cal. mechinegun and then fly to the orbiting ship.



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it would be cool to keep the upclose feel of the halo multiplayer, but it would also be great to have huge battles or large levels with only like 30-40 people. Think of it, it would be a snipers dream

  • 05.23.2006 2:25 PM PDT

lol

Posted by: soup du jour
it would be cool to keep the upclose feel of the halo multiplayer, but it would also be great to have huge battles or large levels with only like 30-40 people. Think of it, it would be a snipers dream


Hah yeah, this is what I was saying.. Halo is like up-close (well sort of) combat. I wouldnt like it if everyone was seperated and it took like 10 minutes on foot to get from one base to the other :P

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yeah, ten minuets on foot would suck

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thats why they would need lots and lots of vehicals, ie. if it was a 20 vs. 20 match you could get 10 hogs, a pelican, and maybe a couple banshees (or hopfully some human equal to the banshee).

  • 05.23.2006 2:54 PM PDT
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Maybe.. If theres a story behind it yhea. no way in XBL or SS. That just wouldn't be fair. Without a warith it would be almost impossible to destory.

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two words: troop transport

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I would love to fly a peli cuz their cool their fast and I like flying them on HugeAss on Halo custom edition :)

  • 05.23.2006 3:04 PM PDT
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from mstrchief4600: All adding a pelican will do is make Bungie have to design more levels...

That make many people can enjoy Halo3!

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I think flying can be cool! But..... can be hard steering. I want halo3 to have more levels!!!!!!!

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Hey does any one knows Caboose in Red vs Blue??? He is as stupid as jimmypie!!!

  • 05.23.2006 4:52 PM PDT
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Halo's a hell of a drug.

I hope Bungie makes this Halo so insane that it will leave a benchmark that can't be touched for years. I love the other 2 halo games, but I don't want to play another copy of those. I want it to be bigger and better and flying the Pelican could add to that.

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yea with the 360 it means bigger maps maybe ex in trailer they said you could walk the whole thing 3 miles that is but idk have to wait and see

  • 05.23.2006 5:04 PM PDT
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It could be nice as an extra Level for halo 3 to do like "The battle of New Mombassa". You get to see how the covies over burned earth's defenses, but you get to fight it, and stand your chance to fix it. The whol outskirts/metro city is right under you, you have landing pads, Warthogs and marines+ a few scorpions. Let's say bungie caps you at 500 marines( NOT spawned all at the same time) But you're in charge of odrering LS and pelicans to drop supply and troops in some part of the city, organize defense, evacuate and re inforce positions.. And awesome long lasting mission, i see it like you defend outskirts, slowly loose it.. then they start crossing the bridge you have the option to re inforce it,evac the outskrits or even call a bombing on it to slow down the covenant. You finally do so, but pods start launching and Scarabs strart crossing the river toward the city..what shall you do now?<pick up ODSTs at your command post and ask for support from 2 Ls and 2 more pelicans loaded with sorpions/marines. You drop the scorpions in good position to slow down scarabs and then you make your LS take down 2 scarabs as you drop yiour ODSTs inside another, so they can commander it..






Just try to imagine how awesome it would be :) Same thing cuold be possible for the human's assault on the Quarantine zone. that would be an awesome way to revist past levels and epic battles you didn't see




Multiplayer has it's room too: bigger maps, 5~6 times as big as containment. Pelicans do have landing gear and are very strong but weakly armed they however can attach scorpions, carry 1 pilot, 1 copilot, 10 units and 1 read gunner seat. But wait, you're fully loaded as it's a 16VS16. the 3 opthers decided to pick up the SAM Batterys and cover the base againsn't a possible invasion from the enmy pelican. your pelican reachs cruise speed and is v ery low to avoid beeing targeted by a rocket or a SAM. it drops a sniper and 2 marines1 containment lenght from the base. Your bird takes off, and you move on. 600 meters from your oponent's base you're spotted! you quickly slow down and disengage your scorpion befor eyou're spotted. 5 of your troops jump out and get aboard the scorpion( 1 driver+4 passenger, good 'ol halo 1 way) and they start moving. the SAM god a very long locking on system but it almost got you! You're getting ready to face it and possibly dodgering your first threat! your armor warns you! incoming missile you do what you can to dodge but no matter what you try you're hit and badly damaged. Hopefully the enemy team didn't keep neought defender to fire another missile and apperently no rockets are beeing fired. you're almost in their base now, right over their walls. the rest of your team jumps off but your co pilot and you start moving up...the sniper warns you he's ni perfect position to kill whoever tries to leave the base and that his scouts just acquired the rocket launcher from a enemy unit. the scorpion is also in range to open fire but no enemy is seen. Weird. you take off and decide to pick up the rocket launched but then your hit. you're loosing power and altitude hit by a enemy scorpion. you get off your seat and you start moving to the pelican's back. you jump off, take major falling damage and can only watch your bird crash as you see 3 warthogs and 1 scorpion enclosing.. you think all is loss and you take you're assault rifle, but suddenlya tank blast takes down 1 warthogs. a sniper blast kills the tank's driver but they're too late, the Gauss hog shoots and kill you. what an epic battle.. you'renot aware tho that 10 people of the other team are inside you're base, owning you're defenssers and getting ready to take the flag...


that's how i see pelicans. i don't want a pelican on bloodgulch, I want pelicans on battlefield scaled maps.10 or 15 times containment if needed anyways if i remember right how bungie explained their details engine, the CPUs will no longer spare their time on somethibng noone's close enought to see;)

  • 05.23.2006 7:05 PM PDT
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two words: troop transport
One word: warthog

  • 05.23.2006 7:30 PM PDT
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Flying them would suck, but IF while riding in one, you could get up and walk around and talk to the soldiers or pilots. That would be cool, or if you could jump out and have a parachute......................but not really.

  • 05.23.2006 8:17 PM PDT
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"You have been measured, you have been weighed: And you have been found lacking."

It would be nice for maybe one level at best. A small section just to fly the thing around.

Personally... unless they make the maps 4X coagulation X 7 with 50 MP or 100 MP people... well... then no...


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  • 05.23.2006 8:21 PM PDT
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Flying a pelican would be the coolest thing ever. I also want it to be in multiplayer.

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